Panos wrote:Speaking of stats, go to this page:
https://www.nba.com/stats/players/

Mitch appears in the leaders about 4 or 5 times

He appears in three. Block shots, FG% and % of offensive rebounds. Its nice but his 8 rebs is not up there with the guys over 11 that are top 5.

One can just look at centers and rank them per catagory. I won’t dispute he is due a raise. Thats not what most are looking at. Its at what cost.

Maybe we should be asking “Where would we be with a healthy Norlens? 4 seed?
Were would we be with a healthy Mitch? 10 games under .500?

I know theres more to that. We right off the injured or grumpy. We take the healthy and extropolate it out. Thus, Norlens is out and we can’t see a future without mitch. I can’t either, but its not my job.
I don’t see him as “indespensible”. I don’t see his replacement but that don’t mean we are held hostage by a salary demand we don’t know about either.

I don’t want him gone, I want him on a deal that is tradable via the market. They he is an asset on and off the court.

Nalod wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

Swishfm3 wrote:Love that all the "Sign Robinson at all cost" supporters completely ignored his 2 rebound, -7 effort against a team with journey man M. Brown and without Mobley and Allen.

Hard pass on Mitch Robinson. Good player but I believe Sims and Noel can do everything he can...including miss FT. No way should the Knicks lock +15mil on this guy.

.....also don't trust that he will remain healthy after signing a long term lucrative deal.

Noel is always injured and Sims is a decent backup C

Letting Mitch walk this summer is the next great Knick debacle. Meanwhile we are stuck with Randle and his 4 year $100+ million extension

By your standard of “Randle only made playoffs once in 8 years”, has the net effect of Mitches stats contributed to winning? His offensive rebounding is up an his total rebounding is up one half per game, but other than that his stats are not better. 8pts per game. His blocks are down from first two seasons. He is improved, but to what degree and at what price. Respect the timelne of events and consider when should he have been resigned and for how much? What is on him and on the club?

Randle played most of his career with the lakers and hornets. Mitch was on rebuilding Knick teams up until last year and has played fewer nba seasons. Yes, as always fair comparison by you

Knixkik wrote:

ramtour420 wrote:

Swishfm3 wrote:

TPercy wrote:

Swishfm3 wrote:

martin wrote:

Swishfm3 wrote:Love that all the "Sign Robinson at all cost" supporters completely ignored his 2 rebound, -7 effort against a team with journey man M. Brown and without Mobley and Allen.

Hard pass on Mitch Robinson. Good player but I believe Sims and Noel can do everything he can...including miss FT. No way should the Knicks lock +15mil on this guy.

.....also don't trust that he will remain healthy after signing a long term lucrative deal.

There is a larger group that also loves the "look at the one game sample size I'm making to express a pretty lame point" supporters out there too. Brown also just had a 12 rebound night in 20 minutes against Embiib. Dude is long and can rebound.

So what now?

Lame point?

We have been touting his rebounding for the past month and he only manages 2 against this guy? With no Mobley or Allen this was literally Robinson's time to shine and instead he throws up a dud.

But you're right. Still a small sample size. Everyone has a bad game and it's not like he has never played like this before...Lets give him his 18/5 contract (I thought read that he was looking for Allen type money). I'm sure it will all work out.

Bro there is no WAY you are using a game against a g league team where nobody is trying as justification. Like these games count for literally nothing.

Yet, we are glorifying Obi Topping numbers in these meaningless where no one is trying.

and FYI, that G league team you are referring to is in the playoffs fighting for a 6th spot.

Funny thing about all this is that Sims looks a lot like Robinson two years ago.....only more polished.

He is pretty much an ideal replacement. And he sets better screens

Have to wonder if we really would miss Mitch. Sims, Gibson and a healthier Noel seems to be the committee approach that works fine at center. With Gibson hitting threes from the corner it helps too.

Healthier Noel? He’s been an egg this year. Taj will be 37 next season and you want him to essentially be a full time player for 82 games again?

Philc1 wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

Swishfm3 wrote:Love that all the "Sign Robinson at all cost" supporters completely ignored his 2 rebound, -7 effort against a team with journey man M. Brown and without Mobley and Allen.

Hard pass on Mitch Robinson. Good player but I believe Sims and Noel can do everything he can...including miss FT. No way should the Knicks lock +15mil on this guy.

.....also don't trust that he will remain healthy after signing a long term lucrative deal.

Noel is always injured and Sims is a decent backup C

Letting Mitch walk this summer is the next great Knick debacle. Meanwhile we are stuck with Randle and his 4 year $100+ million extension

By your standard of “Randle only made playoffs once in 8 years”, has the net effect of Mitches stats contributed to winning? His offensive rebounding is up an his total rebounding is up one half per game, but other than that his stats are not better. 8pts per game. His blocks are down from first two seasons. He is improved, but to what degree and at what price. Respect the timelne of events and consider when should he have been resigned and for how much? What is on him and on the club?

Randle played most of his career with the lakers and hornets. Mitch was on rebuilding Knick teams up until last year and has played fewer nba seasons. Yes, as always fair comparison by you

Your ignorance makes it really difficult to take you serious. It's like dealing with Playa....but without all the conspiracy theories.

Nalod wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

Swishfm3 wrote:Love that all the "Sign Robinson at all cost" supporters completely ignored his 2 rebound, -7 effort against a team with journey man M. Brown and without Mobley and Allen.

Hard pass on Mitch Robinson. Good player but I believe Sims and Noel can do everything he can...including miss FT. No way should the Knicks lock +15mil on this guy.

.....also don't trust that he will remain healthy after signing a long term lucrative deal.

Noel is always injured and Sims is a decent backup C

Letting Mitch walk this summer is the next great Knick debacle. Meanwhile we are stuck with Randle and his 4 year $100+ million extension

By your standard of “Randle only made playoffs once in 8 years”, has the net effect of Mitches stats contributed to winning? His offensive rebounding is up an his total rebounding is up one half per game, but other than that his stats are not better. 8pts per game. His blocks are down from first two seasons. He is improved, but to what degree and at what price. Respect the timelne of events and consider when should he have been resigned and for how much? What is on him and on the club?

Randle played most of his career with the lakers and hornets. Mitch was on rebuilding Knick teams up until last year and has played fewer nba seasons. Yes, as always fair comparison by you

Your daftness prevents a reasonable debate. How this season turn out? Mitch played good. Knicks did not. He is not the problem, but he is not the solution either.

Incredible observation by you and with that logic Lebron James sucks too

gradyandrew wrote:Did anyone catch the full news conference after the game? Thibs said he hoped the front office brought Robinson back but it was the business side. "He's a free agent and he earned it" This had a lot of good things to say about Quickly Obi Deuce Sims RJ Randle but didn't really say much about Robinson in the clip I saw. It left me with the impression that he won't be resigned or that the Knicks have a salary number already in mind.

Not at all the context. And he has praised Mitch in different clips.

Man, I don't know how you jump to a conclusion without seeing full interviews or even couple days worth of them. The absence of something because you don't watch is not really a thing.

Philc1 wrote:

gradyandrew wrote:Did anyone catch the full news conference after the game? Thibs said he hoped the front office brought Robinson back but it was the business side. "He's a free agent and he earned it" This had a lot of good things to say about Quickly Obi Deuce Sims RJ Randle but didn't really say much about Robinson in the clip I saw. It left me with the impression that he won't be resigned or that the Knicks have a salary number already in mind.

What a disaster

Give Randle a $117 million extension but then play low ball with Mitch and let him walk for nothing

One is not relative to the other.
Your sighting Randles top cap hit providing he hits all his incentives. Here is the funny thing about “Incentives”, if he its them, he is worth it. If he does not, His conrtact sita at $100mil.

“Its a disaster”. Says You. Its like “We out of diet coke” and then you freak out like Playa/1248. You don’t wait for the waitress to say…….”but we have diet pepsi”. Then you sulk Like, “but I don’t like diet pepsi”, and your handler says “Have you ever tried it?” And you like “No, why would I , its stupid”…..

So what did we learn this week? Rose said Knicks continue to negotiate with Mitch and will up until his free agency starts. I agree, he earned it. He took the risk. He. Made thru the seaosn without a bad injury. Now in hindisight dudes like you who won’t respect a timeline will blast off. He broke his hand, and then his foot and really has not achieved any outstanding play prior, so you don’t go off giving 20 mil per to guys like that. Knicks cannot give him more than 12.5 per until after free agency starts.

If your going to redundantly be daft of facts or context with your signiture simplistic one liners then undertand why the ridicule exists.