I wonder what his statistics are outside of every other team not named Boston is this year?

knicks1248 wrote:

NYKMentality wrote:Ok so Evan Fournier (during his 3 games vs. Boston) is averaging 35.0 points, 6.3 rebounds, 2.6 assists and 2.3 steals per game with a 3PT% of .540% (20/37) along with a +/- of +31.

I wonder what his statistics are outside of every other team not named Boston is this year?

It really doesn't matter, point is he needs more touches to get going.

Its tough when you make or miss a shot and go 5 to 6 possessions before your next shot attempt, especially since we play at such a slow ass pace.

And this is the crux or what Thibs deals with from game to game. Fournier, RJ, and Randle are all in that bucket.

They all have the talent to get 30+. They need the right touches and flow.

Calling for any of those guys to get benched from game to game is not right. Even getting pulled too early may not be an adequate solution.

NYKMentality wrote:Ok so Evan Fournier (during his 3 games vs. Boston) is averaging 35.0 points, 6.3 rebounds, 2.6 assists and 2.3 steals per game with a 3PT% of .540% (20/37) along with a +/- of +31.

I wonder what his statistics are outside of every other team not named Boston is this year?

THIS.

TheGame wrote:

fwk00 wrote:

NYKMentality wrote:Ok so Evan Fournier (during his 3 games vs. Boston) is averaging 35.0 points, 6.3 rebounds, 2.6 assists and 2.3 steals per game with a 3PT% of .540% (20/37) along with a +/- of +31.

I wonder what his statistics are outside of every other team not named Boston is this year?

THIS.

11.7 PPG
2.3 3PG
38.6 FG%
35.5 3P%

Per @statmuse

They need to send Fournier to a hypnotist and convince his mind that every team is the Boston Celtics.

That is unacceptable.

It's like he only plays with effort and heart against his former Celtics team but then doesn't give two craps against everyone else.

Is it because he's already been paid big $ from NY and couldn't care less?

Is it because he only plays with a chip on his shoulder vs. Boston in order to "prove a point"?

What is it?

All I know is...

11.7 PPG
2.3 3PG
38.6 FG%
35.5 3P%

Vs. Everyone outside of Boston isn't acceptable for a damn near $20M per year FA addition.

I'd hate to see his Defensive Rating?

Because all I know is that vs. Detroit during his only DNP of the season we allowed only 85 points (2nd fewest points allowed all year) and vs. Indiana only 84 points (season low in points allowed) where he only played 21 minutes.

I don't think it's a coincidence. We're a much better team on Defense when he's not on the court and on Offense? Outside of pretty much 3 games vs. Boston? He's been useless.

I'm almost hoping he doesn't play vs. Boston in order to see how our D plays against them without him however I do want him to play tonight; because Boston is the only team he comes to play against.

Hopefully he treats the playoffs as if they're games against Boston because if so all will be forgiven and he'll become both a fan favorite and an offseason upgrade over Reggie Bullock.

Clean wrote:Whenever EF plays well you can see how the front office thought he would be huge for us. We don't even needs huge games like his last one. If he can just do better at hitting open shots we would be in a much better spot.

Don't forget to mention his atrocious Defense. He's got a Defensive Player Rating of 111.7. Which is ranked 440th amongst all NBA players who've had playing time this year.

Most of the times it looks like he's not even trying to play defense and/or couldn't care less about at least trying to play with Defensive effort.

My problem with Evan Fournier hasn't been his inconsistent shooting, lack of rebounds or his lack of playmaking/assist ability (I believe it'll come in due time) but rather his lack luster mentality on Defense; it looks like he doesn't even care and/or plays D with no effort of whatsoever.

He needs to do a lot more than hit open shots. He needs to play Defense and at least act like he cares.

SergioNYK wrote:

NYKMentality wrote:

Clean wrote:Whenever EF plays well you can see how the front office thought he would be huge for us. We don't even needs huge games like his last one. If he can just do better at hitting open shots we would be in a much better spot.

Don't forget to mention his atrocious Defense. He's got a Defensive Player Rating of 111.7. Which is ranked 440th amongst all NBA players who've had playing time this year.

Most of the times it looks like he's not even trying to play defense and/or couldn't care less about at least trying to play with Defensive effort.

My problem with Evan Fournier hasn't been his inconsistent shooting, lack of rebounds or his lack of playmaking/assist ability (I believe it'll come in due time) but rather his lack luster mentality on Defense; it looks like he doesn't even care and/or plays D with no effort of whatsoever.

He needs to do a lot more than hit open shots. He needs to play Defense and at least act like he cares.

How come you have no problem when Randle does the same?

Every fan needs that one outlet to write over and over: “He needs to……..”
then equate “for that kind of money……..which is a personal value statement.
Or……NYKMental should to the “At this point of last season knicks were………, and defensive rating was …………” but thats for his Brittney.

EF in his interviews says he needs Consistancy. He knows his job, his stats and what he needs to do. Executing it is easy to type.

NYKMentality wrote:

Clean wrote:Whenever EF plays well you can see how the front office thought he would be huge for us. We don't even needs huge games like his last one. If he can just do better at hitting open shots we would be in a much better spot.

Don't forget to mention his atrocious Defense. He's got a Defensive Player Rating of 111.7. Which is ranked 440th amongst all NBA players who've had playing time this year.

Most of the times it looks like he's not even trying to play defense and/or couldn't care less about at least trying to play with Defensive effort.

My problem with Evan Fournier hasn't been his inconsistent shooting, lack of rebounds or his lack of playmaking/assist ability (I believe it'll come in due time) but rather his lack luster mentality on Defense; it looks like he doesn't even care and/or plays D with no effort of whatsoever.

He needs to do a lot more than hit open shots. He needs to play Defense and at least act like he cares.

LEAVE EF ALONE!!! HE'S A WELL-PAID HUMAN BEING, SO WHAT??!?!?!!!

BigDaddyG wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

NYKMentality wrote:

Clean wrote:Whenever EF plays well you can see how the front office thought he would be huge for us. We don't even needs huge games like his last one. If he can just do better at hitting open shots we would be in a much better spot.

Don't forget to mention his atrocious Defense. He's got a Defensive Player Rating of 111.7. Which is ranked 440th amongst all NBA players who've had playing time this year.

Most of the times it looks like he's not even trying to play defense and/or couldn't care less about at least trying to play with Defensive effort.

My problem with Evan Fournier hasn't been his inconsistent shooting, lack of rebounds or his lack of playmaking/assist ability (I believe it'll come in due time) but rather his lack luster mentality on Defense; it looks like he doesn't even care and/or plays D with no effort of whatsoever.

He needs to do a lot more than hit open shots. He needs to play Defense and at least act like he cares.

LEAVE EF ALONE!!! HE'S A WELL-PAID HUMAN BEING, SO WHAT??!?!?!!!

YES!!! We have a legit, French basketball player who shoots 38% from three and these fans want to boo him . These are probably the same fans that boo'd Chris Duhon, Marbury after the Vaseline incident, Ray Felton when he got fat and Al Harrington after he blew another game by getting a tech for hanging on the rim. YOU DON'T DESERVE EVAN!!!!