Julius Randle, during a season in which he has been largely bad, was part of a Knicks starting five that came out with a preseason level of effort, and it didn’t get much better throughout the half. Whether it was the early booing, the booing in the third after New York picked up its effort but saw Boston hit some tough shots, or whether this was more about some fans’ elated response to Randle entering protocols a week ago, what can’t be denied based on Randle’s actions and comments both tonight and on Wednesday is that he has taken the criticism to heart this season.

One can debate whether or not his gripe is justified, but what can’t be debated is the version of Randle we got as this game went on - the angry version who was getting to the rim at will and played like his life depended on it:

This is the version we’ve been waiting to see all year, and the complete and total absence of that player is what has prompted all the fan frustration in the first place.

Julius may think he’s Russell Crowe here, asking anyone within earshot “Are you not entertained,” but in reality he’s far closer to Commodus, confused as to why no one loves him when the answer has been staring at him in the mirror the whole time. The people he’s yelling at just want to watch someone who obviously cares as much as they do. That’s all any fan ever wants, good or bad, make or miss, win or lose.

We got that on Thursday night, and even if his performance over the rest of this season is predicated on a personal vendetta against those paying to see him play, we will respect it. Why? Because we’re New Yorkers. Why you’re “all in” means far less to us than the fact that you’re “all in” at all. Keep balling, keep yelling, and we’ll keep cheering. Nothing personal.
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Stop making it personal NYKM

NYKMentality wrote:Fans have the right to BOO Julius Randle?

O.k. Cool.

Well guess what?

Fans also have the right to consider those who BOO Derek Jeter/Patrick Ewing and now Julius Randle as SCUMBAGS.

That's a false equivalence. Fans pay to see a product. Julius Randle would be nowhere without the fans indirectly paying his salary. When he is making the kind of money he makes much more is expected than what he has given the fans this year.

LAST YEAR DOES NOT MATTER ANYMORE. Fans gave Julius about a 25 games honeymoon. Now they want results.

Sambakick wrote:Courtesy of Knicks Film School:

Julius Randle, during a season in which he has been largely bad, was part of a Knicks starting five that came out with a preseason level of effort, and it didn’t get much better throughout the half. Whether it was the early booing, the booing in the third after New York picked up its effort but saw Boston hit some tough shots, or whether this was more about some fans’ elated response to Randle entering protocols a week ago, what can’t be denied based on Randle’s actions and comments both tonight and on Wednesday is that he has taken the criticism to heart this season.

One can debate whether or not his gripe is justified, but what can’t be debated is the version of Randle we got as this game went on - the angry version who was getting to the rim at will and played like his life depended on it:

This is the version we’ve been waiting to see all year, and the complete and total absence of that player is what has prompted all the fan frustration in the first place.

Julius may think he’s Russell Crowe here, asking anyone within earshot “Are you not entertained,” but in reality he’s far closer to Commodus, confused as to why no one loves him when the answer has been staring at him in the mirror the whole time. The people he’s yelling at just want to watch someone who obviously cares as much as they do. That’s all any fan ever wants, good or bad, make or miss, win or lose.

We got that on Thursday night, and even if his performance over the rest of this season is predicated on a personal vendetta against those paying to see him play, we will respect it. Why? Because we’re New Yorkers. Why you’re “all in” means far less to us than the fact that you’re “all in” at all. Keep balling, keep yelling, and we’ll keep cheering. Nothing personal.
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Stop making it personal NYKM

Clean wrote:

blkexec wrote:

Allanfan20 wrote:I was just going to take the time to praise Julius for his wonderful game last night. There was little to no shakiness handling the ball and he made good decisions.

And then he decided to open his mouth. Some people just can’t control themselves.

So he’s wrong for going back at the fans? After he’s been constantly attacked by fans. So it’s ok to verbally hate him when he’s down, and love him when he’s up? He’s a human being like you and me. Sometimes we think nba players are robots and lacks emotions and shouldn’t be sensitive to feedback in this social media era.

I have no problems with his gesture. Thumbs down is similar to giving the middle finger to all his haters, who unfortunately are mostly knick fans. Let’s hope during the next home game these same boo birds will try and appreciate him more. Otherwise he’s gone and the next star player will make a last minute detour to brooklyn.

Just like u was going to show him love until he opened his mouth. Think about the potential star players who had the Knicks on their radar. They are saying the same thing as you. Until knick fans opened their mouth, I wanted to play for them. But knick fans don’t deserve it. We don’t know how to treat our own players. And this social media era where everybody is now a bully with a keyboard, is not helping.

The bold is the whole point of being a fan. You play well we cheer you play poorly and have a lack of effort we boo. It's pretty simple.

Listen to what Charles Barkley says in this video.

Clean….that was my first time seeing this and I agree with most of it except one thing. Todays nba players are super sensitive and soft compared to Barkley and Ewing era.

blkexec wrote:

Clean wrote:

blkexec wrote:

Allanfan20 wrote:I was just going to take the time to praise Julius for his wonderful game last night. There was little to no shakiness handling the ball and he made good decisions.

And then he decided to open his mouth. Some people just can’t control themselves.

So he’s wrong for going back at the fans? After he’s been constantly attacked by fans. So it’s ok to verbally hate him when he’s down, and love him when he’s up? He’s a human being like you and me. Sometimes we think nba players are robots and lacks emotions and shouldn’t be sensitive to feedback in this social media era.

I have no problems with his gesture. Thumbs down is similar to giving the middle finger to all his haters, who unfortunately are mostly knick fans. Let’s hope during the next home game these same boo birds will try and appreciate him more. Otherwise he’s gone and the next star player will make a last minute detour to brooklyn.

Just like u was going to show him love until he opened his mouth. Think about the potential star players who had the Knicks on their radar. They are saying the same thing as you. Until knick fans opened their mouth, I wanted to play for them. But knick fans don’t deserve it. We don’t know how to treat our own players. And this social media era where everybody is now a bully with a keyboard, is not helping.

The bold is the whole point of being a fan. You play well we cheer you play poorly and have a lack of effort we boo. It's pretty simple.

Listen to what Charles Barkley says in this video.

Clean….that was my first time seeing this and I agree with most of it except one thing. Todays nba players are super sensitive and soft compared to Barkley and Ewing era.

We both definitely agree on that point.

Clean wrote:The bold is the whole point of being a fan.

You play well we cheer you play poorly and have a lack of effort we boo. It's pretty simple.

I disagree.

Derek Jeter had already led his Yankees team to 3 World Championships.

Patrick Ewing gave his heart and soul to NYC along with both his knees (on ice).

But yet they were still booed.

90% did not BOO Jeter/Ewing/Julius.
10% did.

Those 10% who boo? Are not "fans".

blkexec wrote:Todays nba players are super sensitive and soft compared to Barkley and Ewing era.

I don't know if I can agree with that.

In the 80s and 90s etc social media was not around for those players to get attacked and mocked online.

If social media was around in the 80s and 90s? Guys like Ewing would've been attacked 24/7 for "failing to win a Championship" and I can almost guarantee you that #33 would've fired back in absolute disgust.

Players of today are scrutinized like players of yesterday had no idea about. And a lot of then wouldn't have been able to handle it (without firing back).

NYKMentality wrote:

martin wrote:

NYKMentality wrote:

Clean wrote:The bold is the whole point of being a fan.

You play well we cheer you play poorly and have a lack of effort we boo. It's pretty simple.

I disagree.

Derek Jeter had already led his Yankees team to 3 World Championships.

Patrick Ewing gave his heart and soul to NYC along with both his knees (on ice).

But yet they were still booed.

90% did not BOO Jeter/Ewing/Julius.
10% did.

Those 10% who boo? Are not "fans".

Bro, you are down to making up boo'ing rate stats to argue about who is a real fan or not.

It's your destiny man

Fair enough man.

But do you believe Derek Jeter and PATRICK EWING deserved to be booed?

Just know that 90% of fans never booed Jeter and Ewing. Thankfully only maybe 10% did (and imo those were not "fans".

I'm done with this conversation. I'll agree to disagree m

"Who gives a flying ****?" seems appropriate here

martin wrote:

NYKMentality wrote:

martin wrote:

NYKMentality wrote:

Clean wrote:The bold is the whole point of being a fan.

You play well we cheer you play poorly and have a lack of effort we boo. It's pretty simple.

I disagree.

Derek Jeter had already led his Yankees team to 3 World Championships.

Patrick Ewing gave his heart and soul to NYC along with both his knees (on ice).

But yet they were still booed.

90% did not BOO Jeter/Ewing/Julius.
10% did.

Those 10% who boo? Are not "fans".

Bro, you are down to making up boo'ing rate stats to argue about who is a real fan or not.

It's your destiny man

Fair enough man.

But do you believe Derek Jeter and PATRICK EWING deserved to be booed?

Just know that 90% of fans never booed Jeter and Ewing. Thankfully only maybe 10% did (and imo those were not "fans".

I'm done with this conversation. I'll agree to disagree m

"Who gives a flying ****?" seems appropriate here

Patrick Ewing. My childhood Knicks hero and legend didn't deserve that. It was disgusting. But to each our own.

PS: Maybe you can please do me a favor and lock this thread before it ends up getting me in trouble 🤣 I'd appreciate it a lot (and thanks in advance if so)