BigDaddyG wrote:

blkexec wrote:

MaTT4281 wrote:

Allanfan20 wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:I think he’s coming back to sixers
His best bet is being very humble no problems and give 110%

I actually wouldn’t be surprised if he doesn’t play a game at all this season unless the Suxers take a massive risk and trade him to the Nuts for Irving. At least Irving has a shorter contract. This wouldn’t necessarily make the Nets better either. Whoever is guarding Simmons can collapse in favor of KD or Harden penetrating while keeping an eye out on Ben.

As far as I can see though, this is the only trade for either player. I would be very surprised if either team got someone like Beal or Lillard. There is no way that happens like how ESPN lightly suggested today.

Apparently Ben isn't vaccinated either. Nets would have to deal with the same issues they have with Kyrie with Simmons.

Vax or not.....Nobody has the same issues as Kyrie. Just saying!

Not sure Ben is anti-vax. I think he's just doing everything in his power to get out.

Supposedly he’s not vaccinated just to be a pain in the ass to Philly so they trade him a lot quicker…. And then if he goes to Brooklyn, he’ll get the vaccine. Dick move? Yes True story? Don’t know but I wouldn’t be surprised.

Jimbo5 wrote:The Simmons-76ers situation currently looks ugly on both sides. 76er forcing him to return, simmons only has his eyes on the money. Simmons staying with the team will eat away whatever team chemistry they have build over the summer . It will only get messier after the suspension.

Just a curious thought, if the knicks can trade for Simmons on cheap( ridiculously cheap) like Knox and second rounders package only, will you do it? Aside from his mental outlook now the other weakness simmons has is his 3pt shooting. I have this crazy hunch that the knicks might be able to at the very least improve his shooting. I dont think the knicks improved outside shooting the past season is a fluke. The knicks are 1 of the teams that installed a shooting system in their training facility and its being put to good use. Can Simmons benefit from that system paired with the work ethic of Randle and the other young guns?

We're just flat out not able to make a trade for Simmons right now. We no longer have cap space to absorb his contract, which means we have to make salaries work. Simmons is making $33M (fines aside), and Knox $5.8M. I believe our new signings can't be traded until December (good luck to Philly if this drags out that long). We would need to add in RJ/Obi/Quick & more in order to get within range.

But in a completely hypothetical scenario where none of that matters and the Knicks can trade Knox & picks for Simmons straight up - still no. This is a chemistry killer, and chemistry may be our biggest asset right now. Plus can't play him home games if he refuses to get vaxxed...

MaTT4281 wrote:

blkexec wrote:

MaTT4281 wrote:

Allanfan20 wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:I think he’s coming back to sixers
His best bet is being very humble no problems and give 110%

I actually wouldn’t be surprised if he doesn’t play a game at all this season unless the Suxers take a massive risk and trade him to the Nuts for Irving. At least Irving has a shorter contract. This wouldn’t necessarily make the Nets better either. Whoever is guarding Simmons can collapse in favor of KD or Harden penetrating while keeping an eye out on Ben.

As far as I can see though, this is the only trade for either player. I would be very surprised if either team got someone like Beal or Lillard. There is no way that happens like how ESPN lightly suggested today.

Apparently Ben isn't vaccinated either. Nets would have to deal with the same issues they have with Kyrie with Simmons.

Vax or not.....Nobody has the same issues as Kyrie. Just saying!

Fair point!!!

They wouldn’t be the same issues bc technically Kyrie is allowed to play in Philly. Whether he’ll accept it is the real issue.

BigDaddyG wrote:

Nalod wrote:When Butler wanted out of Minny, he grabbed the third string and beat the 1st and was psycho cool while doing it. Proved he can play.
When Butler went to Vegas, then reported to Rockets, 1st game back he hung 44pts and let them know he was good. Then he phuched off.
Simmons should not play the card he did. Show the team and the league you mean business then get “disinterested”.
If he disagrees with Doc then show something. Not a good look. But……….He has his money and if he lowers his price that means he goes to a team that has more assets left. Then, show what you made of. That could be his play here.

Is this worse than what Vince pulled in Toronto?

Good catch. Can you bring us up to date on what happend? It was a dick move from what I recall. Team let Mcgrady walk? Wanted them to trade what became the Bosh pick? Did they mislead him too?
He did the “back hurts” thing?

ToddTT wrote:I’d take a player that choked his coach over Simmons.

I’m so glad we are drama free right now.

Spree was something else. We also forget the late to camp thing, the broken wrist, and eventually he fell out with Knicks. He then declined fast and became offended with the paltry 7mm deal they offered him.

That said he gave us a few good years and on court is what redeemed him.
Simmons has not gotten back on the court nor do we have a post script to define how his career went. Thus, we have no ending to measure.
The backlash on Spree was pretty bad after his incident with PJ. Public opinion on him was low.
It never looks good when a player wants out.
Simmons is no different. All I know is before this all happend he was a guy with no 3 range, allstar on a team with best record in east. Until he get on the court and plays to his level he will look bad.

WE took spree and it worked out well for the most part. We went to the finals and his on court play made up for his bull****. Remeber the broken wrist thing?
We got him for cents on the dollar. Starks was in decline.
I’d take simmons for cents on the dollar. Won’t happen, but Knicks would be negligent if they did not take that into consideration.

The ensuing narrative gets written by his play and teams success after.

franco12 wrote:

Nalod wrote:

ToddTT wrote:I’d take a player that choked his coach over Simmons.

I’m so glad we are drama free right now.

Spree was something else. We also forget the late to camp thing, the broken wrist, and eventually he fell out with Knicks. He then declined fast and became offended with the paltry 7mm deal they offered him.

That said he gave us a few good years and on court is what redeemed him.
Simmons has not gotten back on the court nor do we have a post script to define how his career went. Thus, we have no ending to measure.
The backlash on Spree was pretty bad after his incident with PJ. Public opinion on him was low.
It never looks good when a player wants out.
Simmons is no different. All I know is before this all happend he was a guy with no 3 range, allstar on a team with best record in east. Until he get on the court and plays to his level he will look bad.

WE took spree and it worked out well for the most part. We went to the finals and his on court play made up for his bull****. Remeber the broken wrist thing?
We got him for cents on the dollar. Starks was in decline.
I’d take simmons for cents on the dollar. Won’t happen, but Knicks would be negligent if they did not take that into consideration.

The ensuing narrative gets written by his play and teams success after.

not a simmons thing or anything- but I was always impressed with how eloquent and intelligent Sprewell sounded when interviewed. He did have some issues - but on the court, what an absolute warrior.

I'm really happy the Knicks have given him some work- for a while there he'd completely disappeared and there was talk of him being broke and having to sell his house. One of the things I liked about the Phil era was he seemed to get he org to bring back some players into the fold (I think LJ, Spree, and some others).

smackeddog wrote:

franco12 wrote:

Nalod wrote:

ToddTT wrote:I’d take a player that choked his coach over Simmons.

I’m so glad we are drama free right now.

Spree was something else. We also forget the late to camp thing, the broken wrist, and eventually he fell out with Knicks. He then declined fast and became offended with the paltry 7mm deal they offered him.

That said he gave us a few good years and on court is what redeemed him.
Simmons has not gotten back on the court nor do we have a post script to define how his career went. Thus, we have no ending to measure.
The backlash on Spree was pretty bad after his incident with PJ. Public opinion on him was low.
It never looks good when a player wants out.
Simmons is no different. All I know is before this all happend he was a guy with no 3 range, allstar on a team with best record in east. Until he get on the court and plays to his level he will look bad.

WE took spree and it worked out well for the most part. We went to the finals and his on court play made up for his bull****. Remeber the broken wrist thing?
We got him for cents on the dollar. Starks was in decline.
I’d take simmons for cents on the dollar. Won’t happen, but Knicks would be negligent if they did not take that into consideration.

The ensuing narrative gets written by his play and teams success after.

not a simmons thing or anything- but I was always impressed with how eloquent and intelligent Sprewell sounded when interviewed. He did have some issues - but on the court, what an absolute warrior.

I'm really happy the Knicks have given him some work- for a while there he'd completely disappeared and there was talk of him being broke and having to sell his house. One of the things I liked about the Phil era was he seemed to get he org to bring back some players into the fold (I think LJ, Spree, and some others).

You are aware that you're not allowed to say anything positive about Phil Jackson?

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