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2/7/2021  1:59 AM
Trading Frank for Rose would be a dumb move by a dumb FO. It will not make us better. Just more frustration and disappointment. And we Knick fans deserve it for sticking with such a mess of an organization. We are truly the worst franchise in all of professional sports.
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2/7/2021  2:41 AM
The only way this makes sense is if rose is taking minutes from rivers.. a quick rose back court would be a hell of a lot better the. Quivers
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2/7/2021  3:09 AM
No Frank nooooooooo!!!! This is really bad. It actually feels real. Oh man , trading a young player that plays D and actually improved his shoot for an over the hill vet who neither shoots nor plays D. This has all the makings of a terrible move, I am talking Trevor Ariza trade level magnitude of horror
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2/7/2021  4:10 AM
Uptown wrote:

I'd be okay with this only if it's for Payton and nothing else. But I don't think it will be. Having Rose and Payton on the roster is a nightmare- IQ will get completely squeezed minutes-wise. Then again, Rose gets injured so frequently, maybe not.

Frank makes a lot of sense for Detroit (they drafted that French kid last year and have no PG since Hayes went down. Could pair nicely with Grant in the lineup).

Rose for us, I don't like, but maybe we see him as a mentor for IQ (he was excellent mentoring Hayes early this season, right down to teaching him how to have career threatening injuries).
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2/7/2021  5:17 AM
I really like Frank, i have this idea that teams competing for the championship always have a player that is elite in the defensive end. And for the Knick i was convinced that Frank is that player. Is it possible that Frank is a victim of front office politics? And it doesn't help that Frank fired Leon Rose as an agent.

I want frank to succeed and if he is not given any playing time, there is no way Frank can achieve that. With a heavy heart i have to accept that trade if that happens. A fresh start, going to a team who has been eyeing him for some time. He's going to a team with two other french kid.

I have a bold prediction if frank is traded to the pistons,when they face each other frank will be able to lockdown IQ, Rose or Payton. Limiting them to one of their season lows while committing their season highs in turnovers. Im afraid Frank will have a boulder on his shoulders if he plays his former team. I won't be surprised if he feel the team mismanagement his development.

Maybe to make it easier for frank fans to accept such a trade maybe they can expand it to include Josh Jackson.
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2/7/2021  7:07 AM
Well, for all that are crying for Frank, it’s just puzzling how the front office and the coach can change and he always finds his way to the doghouse. At this point, Frank isn’t a player for us but a damaged asset.

Now, trading him for Rose would still be a mistake. What different does a washed-up Rose brings to the team that an inconsistent Payton doesn’t? Neither are shooters, which should be our main objective along with a SF.

I’m all for Thibs as a coach because he is the main reason this team is playing so competently, but I’m not liking his disregard for many of the young pieces (Knox and Frank in particular) and his stubbornness shown here in trying to bring one of “his players” who will no doubt cut playing time on one of our best stories of the season, Quickley.

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2/7/2021  7:44 AM
Rose was done they first time we traded for him 4 years ago ugh yuck
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2/7/2021  7:45 AM
jrodmc wrote:He's 5 years older, still doesn't play D, but Thibs loves him. And hates Frankie.
I just don't get the connection.

Maybe Leon can get him to work on getting us Jimmy Butler instead?

Why not bring back Noah too?
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2/7/2021  7:49 AM
TLover wrote:Maybe move is made with Quickly becoming a starter, Rose as 6th man and Payton getting traded.

This is the ONLY way it works out.

I doubt Rose even wants to come here. He was miserable when he was here and he was pissed when he was traded here.

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2/7/2021  8:43 AM
So this explains Eldridge Peyton's sudden offensive outburst. Two 20 pt games in a row.
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2/7/2021  8:45 AM
Allanfan20 wrote:
TLover wrote:Maybe move is made with Quickly becoming a starter, Rose as 6th man and Payton getting traded.

This is the ONLY way it works out.

I doubt Rose even wants to come here. He was miserable when he was here and he was pissed when he was traded here.

He will freeze RJ out just like KP. This is a huge mistake

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2/7/2021  9:13 AM
Jmpasq wrote:
Allanfan20 wrote:
TLover wrote:Maybe move is made with Quickly becoming a starter, Rose as 6th man and Payton getting traded.

This is the ONLY way it works out.

I doubt Rose even wants to come here. He was miserable when he was here and he was pissed when he was traded here.

He will freeze RJ out just like KP. This is a huge mistake

He can’t be worse than Payton though. Payton only passes to Randle. Hopefully it’s to replace Payton, if not than no thanks.
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2/7/2021  9:35 AM
This is embarrassing.

Rose, hasn’t been good for years. He made a nice comeback, but wtf are we bringing back a guy that went AWOL on this team. Let’s not forget that.

He made no one better and was all about getting his. Thibs, sucks when it comes to choosing players and it’s was a problem in Minnesota. We are playing well, building a culture, trading for Rose solves no problems other than no being able to shoot and defend.

Look Frank isn’t special, but he’s better than Bullock and he’s better than Rivers. He’s going to make an impact the next place he goes. Let’s trade a 21 year old for a former MVP with a broken down body. Epic fail the first time.

Stephon Marbury, Steve Francis, Mike Bibby, Baron Davis anyone.....Derek Fisher is still under contract, maybe he’s available too?
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2/7/2021  9:59 AM
Why are people worried about trading a player that never gets PT.

Frank has no future with the knicks that's clearly obvious,

Everybody knows Thibs loves his vets and he's a defense first coach.

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2/7/2021  10:09 AM
knicks1248 wrote:Why are people worried about trading a player that never gets PT.

Frank has no future with the knicks that's clearly obvious,

Everybody knows Thibs loves his vets and he's a defense first coach.

I kind of agree with this. If rank is not part of our future then let him go.
If Rose and Thibs are thick as thieves and we not giving up picks then let him come.
DRose is not about the future. Dont let media get y’all angry. Maybe DRose helps IQ?
I wanted Frank to succeed here but this is a new FO and a new staff.
The DRose Awal thing is so over blown. I think Frank was the only player here and there was no FO that would feel betrayed by his act.
Is he any good? Off the bench he can push the pace a bit. For those whining about IQ starting, maybe this is where it goes. IQ starts, Rose of the bench to push the pace. This might help OBI a bit too.
This team is so much improved and with our picks coming up we need room for others to grow.........
If frank stays it might indicate a future still with the team.
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2/7/2021  10:15 AM
knicks1248 wrote:Why are people worried about trading a player that never gets PT.

Frank has no future with the knicks that's clearly obvious,

Everybody knows Thibs loves his vets and he's a defense first coach.

I agree as well. If it was a player that still had a future here gotcha all the way. They’ve given up on frank —They are trying to maximize this year— as long as we are reasonable about it- that’s ok by me. I want to hold the top picks however. The Detroit 2 is a deal breaker. Frank is reasonable comp

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2/7/2021  10:16 AM    LAST EDITED: 2/7/2021  10:20 AM
knicks1248 wrote:Why are people worried about trading a player that never gets PT.

Frank has no future with the knicks that's clearly obvious,

Everybody knows Thibs loves his vets and he's a defense first coach.

Because it makes zero sense. Look we all accept Frank has no future here sadly. That doesn’t mean it makes sense. You know it’s a bad idea when unanimously most fans hate it. The guy is one of the worst defenders I’ve ever seen and even his offensive game is lights years below what it once was. Plus it impacts Quickley too. Obviously we all know why you love this trade but when you look at it logically it makes zero sense. Now if it was for a shooter then no problem. Like I said Frank deserves a fresh start somewhere else but Rose won’t help. What ever small offense he brings he negates with horrid defense. Plus we have a good rhythm with Randle and RJ so Rose won’t help them either
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2/7/2021  10:34 AM
We have DSJ who is 9 years younger than Rose. More athletic. Equally bad of a shooter. Why not just continue to work on him?
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2/7/2021  10:40 AM
ankurk wrote:We have DSJ who is 9 years younger than Rose. More athletic. Equally bad of a shooter. Why not just continue to work on him?
Because Thibs wants His guys. I was fine bringing in Gibson to play some minutes that’s fine but Rise makes zero sense. At least DSJ makes an attempt to play defense even though he is a bad defender
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2/7/2021  10:42 AM
That’s 100 percent the issue.

We need shooting and wing help. Payton is better than Rose and Quickly is better than both of them. So why take away minutes if you’re sacrifice shooting and defense.

Rose get to the rim, but does nothing else well. It’s a classic Knicks lateral trade that doesn’t make sense.

If you want to tell me it’s Frank, our second round pick this year for Rose and Bay, let’s go. Throw DSJR in that package too. We need a wing that can shoot and defend. No rentals, just assets.
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