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Nalod
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11/21/2020  11:44 AM

Rozier has not demonstrated a veterans presence when given the reigns in CLT. Granted, it was not a good team.
We are not a good team either.
I’d rather we play the kids. Not saying tank. Got a long way to go before rosters are set.
The more Olidipo speaks the less I want him . There are risks and IM ok with him but low price.
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11/21/2020  11:55 AM
Hard Times!

I like how we're not even playing FVV's Grant Hill game

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11/21/2020  12:07 PM
KnickDanger wrote:I just don't see how any of the free agents we're "striking out" on help us other than in a very short term way that likely hurts us long term in cap flexibility and perhaps even youth development. Hayward, FVV -- these aren't long term "needle movers" at the price. Much prefer the Burks and Davis type moves. I imagine there is still some sort of trade to come bringing in a veteran PG.

BTW I think the idea of tanking is ludicrous. This is a rebuild. With Thibs and progress for some of our young players we will be competitive and in play.

As long as we keep losing, every off season will be like this

So keep flipping the roster and developing a losing culture, because what has cap space and flexibility gotten us over the last 3 seasons...Randle, Burke, Portis, Payton types.

How has losing help Frank, Knox, Mitchs development. I'm not interested in seeing Obi doing flying Dunks in a 20 point blowout.

This franchise turn HOF coach Larry Brown into a weirdo because of that bogus roster, Turned MDA into a average coach with that misfit roster and Now your advocating to give THIBS and young half ass roster, and expect good development and winning.

WE NEED TO SPEND

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11/21/2020  12:10 PM
Hawks have signed Dunn, so that means they're not signing Rondo (he was on their list). Think the clips were interested
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11/21/2020  12:16 PM
smackeddog wrote:Hawks have signed Dunn, so that means they're not signing Rondo (he was on their list). Think the clips were interested

Dunn fits. Good defensive player and he won't have the ball in his hands long enough to kill them with bad decisions.

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11/21/2020  12:18 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
KnickDanger wrote:I just don't see how any of the free agents we're "striking out" on help us other than in a very short term way that likely hurts us long term in cap flexibility and perhaps even youth development. Hayward, FVV -- these aren't long term "needle movers" at the price. Much prefer the Burks and Davis type moves. I imagine there is still some sort of trade to come bringing in a veteran PG.

BTW I think the idea of tanking is ludicrous. This is a rebuild. With Thibs and progress for some of our young players we will be competitive and in play.

As long as we keep losing, every off season will be like this

So keep flipping the roster and developing a losing culture, because what has cap space and flexibility gotten us over the last 3 seasons...Randle, Burke, Portis, Payton types.

How has losing help Frank, Knox, Mitchs development. I'm not interested in seeing Obi doing flying Dunks in a 20 point blowout.

This franchise turn HOF coach Larry Brown into a weirdo because of that bogus roster, Turned MDA into a average coach with that misfit roster and Now your advocating to give THIBS and young half ass roster, and expect good development and winning.

WE NEED TO SPEND

Wow. Enjoy your bag of Doritos.

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11/21/2020  12:32 PM
Dj Augustin to the bucks for 3yrs 21mil

Griz sign Meltron for $35mil

We're down to Teague

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11/21/2020  12:55 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
KnickDanger wrote:I just don't see how any of the free agents we're "striking out" on help us other than in a very short term way that likely hurts us long term in cap flexibility and perhaps even youth development. Hayward, FVV -- these aren't long term "needle movers" at the price. Much prefer the Burks and Davis type moves. I imagine there is still some sort of trade to come bringing in a veteran PG.

BTW I think the idea of tanking is ludicrous. This is a rebuild. With Thibs and progress for some of our young players we will be competitive and in play.

As long as we keep losing, every off season will be like this

So keep flipping the roster and developing a losing culture, because what has cap space and flexibility gotten us over the last 3 seasons...Randle, Burke, Portis, Payton types.

How has losing help Frank, Knox, Mitchs development. I'm not interested in seeing Obi doing flying Dunks in a 20 point blowout.

This franchise turn HOF coach Larry Brown into a weirdo because of that bogus roster, Turned MDA into a average coach with that misfit roster and Now your advocating to give THIBS and young half ass roster, and expect good development and winning.

WE NEED TO SPEND

I Hope you save this redundant post as you seem to write it about 4 times a week.

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11/21/2020  12:56 PM

Ha!

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11/21/2020  1:23 PM
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11/21/2020  1:29 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
KnickDanger wrote:I just don't see how any of the free agents we're "striking out" on help us other than in a very short term way that likely hurts us long term in cap flexibility and perhaps even youth development. Hayward, FVV -- these aren't long term "needle movers" at the price. Much prefer the Burks and Davis type moves. I imagine there is still some sort of trade to come bringing in a veteran PG.

BTW I think the idea of tanking is ludicrous. This is a rebuild. With Thibs and progress for some of our young players we will be competitive and in play.

As long as we keep losing, every off season will be like this

So keep flipping the roster and developing a losing culture, because what has cap space and flexibility gotten us over the last 3 seasons...Randle, Burke, Portis, Payton types.

How has losing help Frank, Knox, Mitchs development. I'm not interested in seeing Obi doing flying Dunks in a 20 point blowout.

This franchise turn HOF coach Larry Brown into a weirdo because of that bogus roster, Turned MDA into a average coach with that misfit roster and Now your advocating to give THIBS and young half ass roster, and expect good development and winning.

WE NEED TO SPEND

We need to spend lol... how do hou make good players want to sign with the team that has the lowest win percentage over the past 20 years ???

We have ALWAYS spent spent spent so money is not the problem.
Let’s be smart !

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11/21/2020  1:35 PM
FrenchKnicks wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
KnickDanger wrote:I just don't see how any of the free agents we're "striking out" on help us other than in a very short term way that likely hurts us long term in cap flexibility and perhaps even youth development. Hayward, FVV -- these aren't long term "needle movers" at the price. Much prefer the Burks and Davis type moves. I imagine there is still some sort of trade to come bringing in a veteran PG.

BTW I think the idea of tanking is ludicrous. This is a rebuild. With Thibs and progress for some of our young players we will be competitive and in play.

As long as we keep losing, every off season will be like this

So keep flipping the roster and developing a losing culture, because what has cap space and flexibility gotten us over the last 3 seasons...Randle, Burke, Portis, Payton types.

How has losing help Frank, Knox, Mitchs development. I'm not interested in seeing Obi doing flying Dunks in a 20 point blowout.

This franchise turn HOF coach Larry Brown into a weirdo because of that bogus roster, Turned MDA into a average coach with that misfit roster and Now your advocating to give THIBS and young half ass roster, and expect good development and winning.

WE NEED TO SPEND

We need to spend lol... how do hou make good players want to sign with the team that has the lowest win percentage over the past 20 years ???

We have ALWAYS spent spent spent so money is not the problem.
Let’s be smart !

I'm glad we learned from last year- no huge overpays for bums who will then just be incentivised to chase their stats and be unmovable at the deadline.

All that's left is to see if any teams have players on the last year of their contracts who they're happy to lose to save money. Wonder if the Bulls want rid of Otto Porter?

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11/21/2020  1:38 PM

Hornets should be good this year with him and Ball added to the roster

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11/21/2020  1:40 PM
smackeddog wrote:

Hornets should be good this year with him and Ball added to the roster

Man that’s a lot of money for a injury prone player

smackeddog
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11/21/2020  1:44 PM
fitzfarm wrote:
smackeddog wrote:

Hornets should be good this year with him and Ball added to the roster

Man that’s a lot of money for a injury prone player

I wonder if the Hornets would send Devonte Graham to offload Batum's $27mil?

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11/21/2020  1:51 PM

Please, let us land Graham in exchange for this- he would be perfect as a cheap stop gap PG for us now they have Ball

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11/21/2020  2:11 PM
smackeddog wrote:

Hornets should be good this year with him and Ball added to the roster

That’s a lot of money AND a curveball. Glad we didn’t pay him that. I’m sure FVV will get something similar.

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11/21/2020  2:11 PM
When that takes care of this discussion (From NBC Pro Basketball Talk ) >>>>>>>>> Report: Raptors re-signing Fred VanVleet (four years, $85M).....Article link >>>>>> https://nba.nbcsports.com/2020/11/21/report-raptors-re-signing-fred-vanvleet-four-years-85m/
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11/21/2020  2:12 PM
Hope we don't sign Kentavious Caldwell Pope
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11/21/2020  2:16 PM
And now this from Adrian Wojnarowski twitter >>>>>>> Free agent Gordon Hayward is signing a 4-year, $120M deal with Charlotte, per source.
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