BigDaddyG wrote:

Uptown wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

Chandler wrote:

IMO, and as others have said, this smells like a deal is in place to move up if player X is available at slot Y. I don't buy for a moment X is LaMelo as opposed to someone else. I love the knicks are playing it tight

But why not wait until 1, you see who you were able to pick at 8. And secondly, to see if the player you or another team wants you to pick is likely to go at 23?

In a drat where many have had trouble deciding who should go from 10 to 30, its was a draft that could be best mitigated by having multiple picks.

Which is why it feels like the Knicks are trying to package 8, 23 and maybe a player to move up to Grab a player they like that will be gone before 8. This feels like a play for Obi to me.

Yep, one of the plusses of having Leon and World Wide are their Network of connections. They're probably in tune with the guys who have promises, have been showered with attention from certain teams, etc. Something must've happened to a player they're targeting and it they need to shift their strategy. Obi makes sense since he's a guy who's had his projections slide anywhere from top 5 to top 14.

Great point

knicks1248 wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

Uptown wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/ChrisFedor/status/1329083939995013121

Looks like Obi might be the target...

Makes sense. They've been slobbering over him for a while. Not really thrilled with this. But it means Randle is likely gone, so it's a plus overall.

He's not better then Randle, he's more athletic, but overall, Randle is a 20, 10, 3 player.

I dont how you can judge randle without taking into consideration his crappy coach and his brick laying teammates

Randle has a really good contract also. My only issue with Randle is more an issue with the Knicks than Randle. Same issue I have with Barrett. There is no floor spacing so these guys have no room to work. I only advocate trading Randle if it results in some 3pt shooting.

Knixkik wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

Uptown wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/ChrisFedor/status/1329083939995013121

Looks like Obi might be the target...

Makes sense. They've been slobbering over him for a while. Not really thrilled with this. But it means Randle is likely gone, so it's a plus overall.

He's not better then Randle, he's more athletic, but overall, Randle is a 20, 10, 3 player.

I dont how you can judge randle without taking into consideration his crappy coach and his brick laying teammates

Toppin is a better fit in the modern game because of his shooting. He has more defensive potential too but obviously he has to improve a lot.

Toppin reminds me a bit of Shawn Marion. I worry about his age giving a false indicator - at 22, he is closer to being what he is going to be than say, Kira Lewis as a young 19.

I ask because Mitch makes a lot of sense on Wolves where KAT wants to play the 4 and they need defense. 8 and 23 can provide a wing, shooter, and/or depth

I'm not saying i would like that deal because i like Mitch but it could be an instance of selling high (maybe this is as good as Mitch gets) and maybe they have some connection with Penny and he's saying Wiseman is the real deal???

i would be disgusted with such a move for LaMelo or Edwards

Allanfan20 wrote:

Chandler wrote:
would 8, 23, and Mitch yield #1 pick?

I ask because Mitch makes a lot of sense on Wolves where KAT wants to play the 4 and they need defense. 8 and 23 can provide a wing, shooter, and/or depth

I'm not saying i would like that deal because i like Mitch but it could be an instance of selling high (maybe this is as good as Mitch gets) and maybe they have some connection with Penny and he's saying Wiseman is the real deal???

i would be disgusted with such a move for LaMelo or Edwards

What about for Obi? Supposedly Cleveland wants Mitch and the 8th pick.

Hell no! Didn't see any reports that they are asking for Mitch, though.

Allanfan20 wrote:

Chandler wrote:
would 8, 23, and Mitch yield #1 pick?

I ask because Mitch makes a lot of sense on Wolves where KAT wants to play the 4 and they need defense. 8 and 23 can provide a wing, shooter, and/or depth

I'm not saying i would like that deal because i like Mitch but it could be an instance of selling high (maybe this is as good as Mitch gets) and maybe they have some connection with Penny and he's saying Wiseman is the real deal???

i would be disgusted with such a move for LaMelo or Edwards

What about for Obi? Supposedly Cleveland wants Mitch and the 8th pick.

Why would we do that? We'd have a huge hole at 5, and Obi competing with Randle at 4? Seems too rich and we have problems

At least if it were Wiseman (100% speculation) you'd avoid the whole at 5. But we'd have to think he's the real deal

BigDaddyG wrote:

Uptown wrote:

Allanfan20 wrote:

Chandler wrote:
would 8, 23, and Mitch yield #1 pick?

I ask because Mitch makes a lot of sense on Wolves where KAT wants to play the 4 and they need defense. 8 and 23 can provide a wing, shooter, and/or depth

I'm not saying i would like that deal because i like Mitch but it could be an instance of selling high (maybe this is as good as Mitch gets) and maybe they have some connection with Penny and he's saying Wiseman is the real deal???

i would be disgusted with such a move for LaMelo or Edwards

What about for Obi? Supposedly Cleveland wants Mitch and the 8th pick.

Hell no! Didn't see any reports that they are asking for Mitch, though.

It seems like Mitch is what held them up for #2. Doubt that stance changes for #1.

could be posturing too. This is what selling high should feel like. Will Mitch make the next step??? Is Wiseman the real deal. Penny has known Wiseman since HS. Does he have REAL connections to our FO

knicks1248 wrote:

Chandler wrote:
would 8, 23, and Mitch yield #1 pick?

I ask because Mitch makes a lot of sense on Wolves where KAT wants to play the 4 and they need defense. 8 and 23 can provide a wing, shooter, and/or depth

I'm not saying i would like that deal because i like Mitch but it could be an instance of selling high (maybe this is as good as Mitch gets) and maybe they have some connection with Penny and he's saying Wiseman is the real deal???

i would be disgusted with such a move for LaMelo or Edwards

You do realize this is a guards league, and we have no scoring guards. I just heard Jay Bilas say big man are a dime a dozen in todays NBA.

I would take those 2 over every player we have not name RJ

Edwards has a bad reputation with his effort and attitude and Ball, as of now, has no shot and plays no defense. I would welcome Ball but he’s no promise.

knicks1248 wrote:

Chandler wrote:
would 8, 23, and Mitch yield #1 pick?

I ask because Mitch makes a lot of sense on Wolves where KAT wants to play the 4 and they need defense. 8 and 23 can provide a wing, shooter, and/or depth

I'm not saying i would like that deal because i like Mitch but it could be an instance of selling high (maybe this is as good as Mitch gets) and maybe they have some connection with Penny and he's saying Wiseman is the real deal???

i would be disgusted with such a move for LaMelo or Edwards

You do realize this is a guards league, and we have no scoring guards. I just heard Jay Bilas say big man are a dime a dozen in todays NBA.

I would take those 2 over every player we have not name RJ

I didn't get that memo. Must have to be in the inner circle Maybe you should send a copy to the lakers where their best players are front court. Or Miami they're obviously making big mistakes with Bam, or Denver as they're making mistakes with Joker,

Obviously the Celts with wings out the wazoo got the memo, but they too seem on the hunt for a big. Houston got the memo and downsized (getting rid of Capella and going smaller). That worked like a charm for them.

On a more realistic note, of course everyone wants to upgrade their talent base and we need guards and wings badly, but it could be a smart business decision by selling Mitch at a high point. LaMelo and Edwards have huge flags IMO

Chandler wrote:

Allanfan20 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Chandler wrote:
would 8, 23, and Mitch yield #1 pick?

I ask because Mitch makes a lot of sense on Wolves where KAT wants to play the 4 and they need defense. 8 and 23 can provide a wing, shooter, and/or depth

I'm not saying i would like that deal because i like Mitch but it could be an instance of selling high (maybe this is as good as Mitch gets) and maybe they have some connection with Penny and he's saying Wiseman is the real deal???

i would be disgusted with such a move for LaMelo or Edwards

You do realize this is a guards league, and we have no scoring guards. I just heard Jay Bilas say big man are a dime a dozen in todays NBA.

I would take those 2 over every player we have not name RJ

Edwards has a bad reputation with his effort and attitude and Ball, as of now, has no shot and plays no defense. I would welcome Ball but he’s no promise.

i saw him last night on ESPN with no shirt on. And honestly it was frightening. An optimist might say he'll eventually fill out and put on muscle. but i was not seeing the frame for that at all

Who Ball? Just remember... Ja is and was probably even skinnier than Ball when has in high school.

Allanfan20 wrote:

Chandler wrote:

Allanfan20 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Chandler wrote:
would 8, 23, and Mitch yield #1 pick?

I ask because Mitch makes a lot of sense on Wolves where KAT wants to play the 4 and they need defense. 8 and 23 can provide a wing, shooter, and/or depth

I'm not saying i would like that deal because i like Mitch but it could be an instance of selling high (maybe this is as good as Mitch gets) and maybe they have some connection with Penny and he's saying Wiseman is the real deal???

i would be disgusted with such a move for LaMelo or Edwards

You do realize this is a guards league, and we have no scoring guards. I just heard Jay Bilas say big man are a dime a dozen in todays NBA.

I would take those 2 over every player we have not name RJ

Edwards has a bad reputation with his effort and attitude and Ball, as of now, has no shot and plays no defense. I would welcome Ball but he’s no promise.

i saw him last night on ESPN with no shirt on. And honestly it was frightening. An optimist might say he'll eventually fill out and put on muscle. but i was not seeing the frame for that at all

Who Ball? Just remember... Ja is and was probably even skinnier than Ball when has in high school.

Ja and others have been string beans but some are exceptionally explosive and sinewy -- skinny strong

on the other hand i would not be surprised in LaMelo cannot bench 135. 82 games is going to kill him since he's more of a driver and i don't see him blowing past people

edwards looked a bit out of shape but he was clearly very explosive!, probably his best trait.