Uptown wrote:Drafting Vassell will make up for missing out on Mikal Bridges....If thats the route we want to go. Vassell is one of the best defensive players in the draft and is an excellent spot up shooter.

@ 8, I''m looking at Vassell, Anthony, Okoro and Nesmith.

Yeah. I am really feeling Vassell now. Vassell, Nesmith or Haliburton would be great. Okoro is not a very good perimeter shooter so I think I stay away from him.

Kendrick Perkins "amen-ing" his words is even more bizarre. Balanced & reasoned? No chance. Just "guarantees" & typical over-reactive sport talk hot air.

It feels disrespectful to Leon Rose & WW Wes (also who they are hiring), Thibs & the players as having no agency in their impact on the team performance.

I get his points. All Knick fans do but he's really outta control.

PresIke wrote:I get reminded how Max Kellerman genuinely feels like the most hyperbolic of hyperbolic "hot takers" especially on Knicks and that's really saying something.

Kendrick Perkins "amen-ing" his words is even more bizarre. Balanced & reasoned? No chance. Just "guarantees" & typical over-reactive sport talk hot air.

It feels disrespectful to Leon Rose & WW Wes (also who they are hiring), Thibs & the players as having no agency in their impact on the team performance.

I get his points. All Knick fans do but he's really outta control.

I saw that video but all only could take 3 minutes of that trashy video it was very unprofessinial by espn. Espn is the worst with these hot takes its a lottery draft we had 6 worst record in the nba doesn't mean the knicks are guranteed to get number 1 pick, after we got 3 pick last year the odds were we could have dropped its 50 percent to 7 or 8 pick.

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GustavBahler wrote:Will be interested in what PGs will be there, if we keep the pick.

Would rather pick the best player available. Think our later picks can be position need based picks.

The best player may not be the best fit.

Why would you prefer talent over fit?

Disagree. Teams that are playoff teams are the ones that should be looking for best fits and players that may fill voids. As they may already have good established rosters. Knicks are just looking for good players. Can be said we need a good player at every position. Reason why they should take the best player available and keep building a talented roster. Additionally, there will be several PG's available at 27. Ones that are probably just as good as the so called top PG's in this years draft.

NYKBocker wrote:

Uptown wrote:Drafting Vassell will make up for missing out on Mikal Bridges....If thats the route we want to go. Vassell is one of the best defensive players in the draft and is an excellent spot up shooter.

@ 8, I''m looking at Vassell, Anthony, Okoro and Nesmith.

Yeah. I am really feeling Vassell now. Vassell, Nesmith or Haliburton would be great. Okoro is not a very good perimeter shooter so I think I stay away from him.

I don't want to count out Okoro, yes his outside shooting is not there but I see a Jimmy Butler type of player in him. Butler was not a shooter when he entered the NBA and with Thibs there maybe he can do the same with Okoro.

Im also softening up on Cole Anthony, alot of people are saying not to be swayed by his college performance, he had no talent around him. He can be a different player in the NBA

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ESOMKnicks wrote:POKU is a great risk to take at 27 and a terrible risk to take at 8. He is no Giannis, and probably not even a KP, although his reading of the game makes me think he would be a very useful player in the NBA. Great as a third or fourth best player on a team in a plug and play role. Like a poor man's Tony Kukoc.

But if we find a way to net both POKU and Nesmith in this draft without giving up any significant assets, I would be ecstatic.

I agree with this wholeheartedly. I am moving back toward Vassell, now that 8 is ours. The Clippers pick and our 2nd really excite based on the quality we have created with later picks. Kind of wondering what the front office will pull off. I am hoping they find a project 6’1 guard that is uber athletic with one of those picks.

We already have Jared Harper, formerly of Auburn and the G League. Good shooter (36% from 3) and a proven leader (Finalist 2019 NCAA's). He will surprise you. Seeing money is an issue for most teams, maybe we can pick up/move up to the teens in the draft and pick up a shooter (Bey).

Agree. Harper is a solid player. Feel some are forgetting that we already have better PG's than the ones being proposed in the draft. Can there be a future All Star in there? Maybe, but which one? If we really analyze the PG's in the draft, we would have a lot of question marks. Also, most are not that much younger than the ones we already have on the roster, G League or had recently. Look at a kid like Burke, who is having a good series with Dallas. Kid played well here but was he developed to be more than a off the bench scorer? Makes you wonder. Seems like we are always busy looking elsewhere and not focusing on developing the players we already have.

Nalod wrote:Draft talent. In time you an then make a trade. Think Drexler could have yielded a player better than Sam Bowie. Somtimes 1248 a suggestion is made you might digest it and learn. Say knick thought Wiseman was the best player and we nab him. You sort it out and if he is all that, you trade Mitchell. Better than take a not so great point because Frank is not the PG we dreamed of. IF Frank lives up to the potential and seat we have Haliburton and he is really good, we can trade one or the other. YOu take the best player.

What you have written is filled with impeccable common sense and logic. But this is the Knicks we are talking about? Whom did we get for Rod Strickland when we had to resolve the logjam with Jax. And which of them ended up the better PG?

I still say draft on talent, because you do not really have anyone who is a true keeper on the roster now. The issue with Wiseman and Mitchell is not what you do with both of them at once, but rather is Wiseman worth more than other players who are likely to be available at 8.