Randle is nearly averaging a double-double on the year with 19.3 points and 9.8 rebounds. Here’s the list of players averaging a double-double this year with over 20 points: Giannis Antetokounmpo, Nikola Jokic and LeBron James. Not too bad of company if you ask me.

I’m not trying to say Randle is as good as any of those players because he’s not, but the numbers he’s putting up are still impressive. He also ranks second on the team with 3.1 assist a game only behind pass first point guard Elfrid Payton.

On top of all that, Randle leads the Knicks in player efficiency and ranks 34th in the NBA. That places him ahead of stars like Kemba Walker, Donovan Mitchell and CJ McCollum. In fact, 31 of the 33 players who are ranked above Randle in efficiency have been named to an All-Star game at one point or another in their career.

franco12 wrote:https://dailyknicks.com/2020/03/10/julius-randle-turned-corner-new-york-knicks/

Randle is nearly averaging a double-double on the year with 19.3 points and 9.8 rebounds. Here’s the list of players averaging a double-double this year with over 20 points: Giannis Antetokounmpo, Nikola Jokic and LeBron James. Not too bad of company if you ask me.

I’m not trying to say Randle is as good as any of those players because he’s not, but the numbers he’s putting up are still impressive. He also ranks second on the team with 3.1 assist a game only behind pass first point guard Elfrid Payton.

On top of all that, Randle leads the Knicks in player efficiency and ranks 34th in the NBA. That places him ahead of stars like Kemba Walker, Donovan Mitchell and CJ McCollum. In fact, 31 of the 33 players who are ranked above Randle in efficiency have been named to an All-Star game at one point or another in their career.

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MS wrote:Finding a trade partner to move Julius is paramount.

Teams would be: Spurs, Mavs, Blazers, Nuggets, Hornets

I think the most likely taker would be someone that is capped out and just needs additional talent on their roster. That's why the blazers actually make some sense. They are not going to bring back Melo and Love is too pricey at that money. The guy does get buckets and can be valuable as a 3rd or 4th option, just not the primary option.

Trade Randle for Love?? we can take back Loves salary. Im sure they can throw in a pick or two for us.
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franco12 wrote:https://dailyknicks.com/2020/03/10/julius-randle-turned-corner-new-york-knicks/

Randle is nearly averaging a double-double on the year with 19.3 points and 9.8 rebounds. Here’s the list of players averaging a double-double this year with over 20 points: Giannis Antetokounmpo, Nikola Jokic and LeBron James. Not too bad of company if you ask me.

I’m not trying to say Randle is as good as any of those players because he’s not, but the numbers he’s putting up are still impressive. He also ranks second on the team with 3.1 assist a game only behind pass first point guard Elfrid Payton.

On top of all that, Randle leads the Knicks in player efficiency and ranks 34th in the NBA. That places him ahead of stars like Kemba Walker, Donovan Mitchell and CJ McCollum. In fact, 31 of the 33 players who are ranked above Randle in efficiency have been named to an All-Star game at one point or another in their career.

Unless im looking at the wrong stat. Randle is 90th in Player efficiency rating at 17.4. Mitch leads the Knicks and is 17th in the NBA at 23.4. Randle for the Knicks is at 45-24-73 with a 1-1 asst-To rate. As well as the refusal to kick out of double/triple teams when deep inside the paint. I'm not looking to blast Randle, but it is what it is my allegiance is to the Knicks and seeing them win.

Randle would be better than that with a better supporting cast more tailored to his game. He has put up 60% TS next to Brook Lopez and AD the previous 2 seasons.

But again, he has one yr left on his deal. Is Rose committed to him? To build a team to his game? At the same time is he at the level where you should be building around him? Would the juice be worth the squeeze when all said and done?

Probably not. I'm not saying Randle is trash and if Rose's plan is to bring in high priced vets (I hope not) than Julius makes sense. But he is, at best, the third option on a good team. If people had doubts about KP's ability to carry a team, and count me among those people, than any Randle shouldn't be given any consideration in terms of how the team is built going forward. The good thing is his deal isn't a real killer.

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SupremeCommander wrote:this makes no sense IMO. Next year, if the team still sucks big donkey dong, you play him as close to 40mpg as possible and you trade him. If the team is gonna be any good, well, I would imagine Randle would have to be a part of it. I get that Randle has massive holes to his game but I mean I'd rather have him at 18 mil a year than THJ

the bold. Here's how this works. Who is starting over him and why? If there is a guy who benefits from better PG play its Randle

FA class isn't the strongest but there some decent PFs out there who would be an upgrade over him in terms of overall impact

Randle is not a good fit with Mitch, which is why mitch isn't starting, and Randle is a starter on any team. There isn't a single team in the entire NBA that would have him coming off the bench.

If you had to bring him off the bench, that means you have a stupid ass unbalance roster or a loaded roster ( a AD, KP front court)..He's a 20/10 player...WTF

He started next to AD who's the best PF in the NBA.

Mitch isn't starting because he would pick up 5 fouls in his first five minutes of play.

If something isn't broke, and Mitch has been playing well in his role, don't break it.

Thats to, but i wouldn't start him unless i had 4 bonafide (39%)shoots around him

If randle is trying to post up (which he does more than not) where exactly do you think mitch will be standing, and where do you think the guy guarding Mitch will be standing..IN THE PAINT..

Are you going to get 5 other guys to compliment his game

If Mitch cleaned up his fouling, him starting over Randle if coached wanted to choose one over the other due to spacing would be a no brainer. His ability to anchor a defense as well as his ability to score without plays drawn up for him with pure hustle and athleticism is more valuable. The ceiling of the team would also be higher.

And no you wouldn’t need all 4 players to shoot 39%. You would need 3 at 36% as long as they can play some type of defense themselves. And one to 2 capable playmakers to generate the lobs that he will eat up.

There is a reason Gobert and Adams were both chosen over a guy like Kanter.

Here's a quote from the article martin posted

ESPN’s Zach Lowe reaffirmed what Knicks fans have been saying about Randle all season when he spoke about Randle’s bad fit with RJ Barrett and Mitchell Robinson.

been saying this all season long, This is just a really bad assembled team, and most of the guys are asked to do more than they can, or just put in the wrong roles.

Al harford is experience similar issues with Philly

Al Horford - and his four-year, $109-million contract - has been a disaster for the 76ers. The 33-year-old's shooting numbers are down across the board and his fit with Joel Embiid is questionable at best.

You don't need a shot blocking center to be good in the NBA..Kanter is living proof of that, people couldn't wait for him to be waived of the knicks, only to see him have good amount of success with portland and boston..

The First team I would think of going to is Memphis..Brandon clark for Mitch.

Memphis has Jonas to play in between Jackson and Clarke. They have good balance already.

Kanter is a pps specialist. Or high production limited mins. To many mins and he is a liability. He gets 17mins a game on Boston. Theis gets more mins that him since he holds a positive 1.8 defensive plus/minus(As well as 1.3 blks in 23 mins).

Mitch has a higher ceiling than Randle. Randle’s best hope was to become that point forward type that could improve on his 34% from 3. But if that was the case he and Mitch would have been perfect for each other. Mitch has DOPY potential while adding in 15pts-12rebs per game in prime. Randle had his best season last yr, may be his ceiling. Which on an actual winning team could work as a pps role player like Harrell and Kanter.

Ceiling, if your IQ only goes up to a certain point, then you should find another line of work.

This is randle first season with 13 new players, and 2 caoch's that asked him to do different things, and more than a few young low IQ teammates..you think that's easy?

Mitch is in his 2nd yr in the league after sitting out a whole yr of college ball. Randle is in his 5th yr(when you subtract his rookie yr). Mitch holds a 230. WS48. The next closest is Taj with 114. Has a 72 TS% which is the highest TS% of all time https://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/ts_pct_season.html and holds the lowest defensive rating on the team at 107(thought it would be lower). Only player on the team under 110 though. He is one of 3 players on the team that has a positive defensive plus minus(Frank and Harkless). Offensie rating is 143 which also rates the highest rating of all time. https://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/off_rtg_season.html

Granted he is doing this off dunks due to hustle and lobs off pure athleticism and not offensive features and also at 23mins per game instead of something like 35 which could scale it back compared to others. But at the end of the day these are numbers worth molding and seasoning.

Not only that but Randle has one yr left on his contract. Is Rose gonna commit to building a team around him and resign him long term?

As far as I'm concerned, I'm not opposed to trading anybody on this roster if the trade makes us better now and in the future.

I heard several analyst compare mitch to javale Mcgee

Mitch so far has been far supperior (analytically at least) than Mcgee has been especially at the same point in their careers. Mcgee held a 53 TS% and 105 ws/48 compared to Mitch 73 & 230. And Mcgee was older with 2 yrs of college.