Uptown wrote:Clearly, Jordan was one of the players lobbying for Atkinson to fired! Also, looks like Vaughn is auditioning the job next year trying to get in good with KD, Kyrie, Jordan and Kleinman.

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Yup, pretty much confirms that Kyrie and KD weren't happy with Kenny for not starting their friend. Also their GM wanted to fire him last season but couldn't because they did better than anticipated. Also seems like Kenny had enough of Kyrie and KD pretty early on. Put the three together and his firing is explained

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Uptown wrote:Clearly, Jordan was one of the players lobbying for Atkinson to fired! Also, looks like Vaughn is auditioning the job next year trying to get in good with KD, Kyrie, Jordan and Kleinman.

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Yup, pretty much confirms that Kyrie and KD weren't happy with Kenny for not starting their friend. Also their GM wanted to fire him last season but couldn't because they did better than anticipated. Also seems like Kenny had enough of Kyrie and KD pretty early on. Put the three together and his firing is explained

Pretty much...As soon as I heard Atkinson was available, I was all-in for hiring him to coach the Knicks. The more I thought about though, there are some concerns. I don't watch the nets except for when they play the knicks, but being that he is a D'Antoni disciple, one thing that irked the hell out of me with MDA was the lack adjustments he had during games. He believed in his system so much, he rarely made many in game adjustments. I read that that could be a problem with Atkinson as well.

Jordan alone didnt have the clout, he was incidental to getting Atkinson fired. If it was Kyrie, its reminiscent of KP.

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Uptown wrote:Clearly, Jordan was one of the players lobbying for Atkinson to fired! Also, looks like Vaughn is auditioning the job next year trying to get in good with KD, Kyrie, Jordan and Kleinman.

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Yup, pretty much confirms that Kyrie and KD weren't happy with Kenny for not starting their friend. Also their GM wanted to fire him last season but couldn't because they did better than anticipated. Also seems like Kenny had enough of Kyrie and KD pretty early on. Put the three together and his firing is explained

Pretty much...As soon as I heard Atkinson was available, I was all-in for hiring him to coach the Knicks. The more I thought about though, there are some concerns. I don't watch the nets except for when they play the knicks, but being that he is a D'Antoni disciple, one thing that irked the hell out of me with MDA was the lack adjustments he had during games. He believed in his system so much, he rarely made many in game adjustments. I read that that could be a problem with Atkinson as well.

Jordan alone didnt have the clout, he was incidental to getting Atkinson fired. If it was Kyrie, its reminiscent of KP.

Of course...Jordan wasn't the only reason/player who had issue with Atkinson. As was mentioned earlier, Atkinson doesn't get fired if Kyrie and Durant don't want him to be.

And yet you want to can Miller and hire Atkinson? Miller didnt have to deal with big stars, but I didnt hear complaints from established vets. To the contrary.

Uptown wrote:Clearly, Jordan was one of the players lobbying for Atkinson to fired! Also, looks like Vaughn is auditioning the job next year trying to get in good with KD, Kyrie, Jordan and Kleinman.

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Chandler wrote:Nice option. But let’s not pretend he’s budenholzer

I would like a gm and team identity first though

The work Bud did with Tim & Prince made him a stud in my eyes as that's harder to do than take over good teams. But at the same time could be comparable to KAs work with Deangelo, Dinwiddie & Levert. Bud had more to work with in ATL and Milwaukee if comparing records though.

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Uptown wrote:Clearly, Jordan was one of the players lobbying for Atkinson to fired! Also, looks like Vaughn is auditioning the job next year trying to get in good with KD, Kyrie, Jordan and Kleinman.

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Yup, pretty much confirms that Kyrie and KD weren't happy with Kenny for not starting their friend. Also their GM wanted to fire him last season but couldn't because they did better than anticipated. Also seems like Kenny had enough of Kyrie and KD pretty early on. Put the three together and his firing is explained

Pretty much...As soon as I heard Atkinson was available, I was all-in for hiring him to coach the Knicks. The more I thought about though, there are some concerns. I don't watch the nets except for when they play the knicks, but being that he is a D'Antoni disciple, one thing that irked the hell out of me with MDA was the lack adjustments he had during games. He believed in his system so much, he rarely made many in game adjustments. I read that that could be a problem with Atkinson as well.

Jordan alone didnt have the clout, he was incidental to getting Atkinson fired. If it was Kyrie, its reminiscent of KP.

Of course...Jordan wasn't the only reason/player who had issue with Atkinson. As was mentioned earlier, Atkinson doesn't get fired if Kyrie and Durant don't want him to be.

And yet you want to can Miller and hire Atkinson? Miller didnt have to deal with big stars, but I didnt hear complaints from established vets. To the contrary.

If you are giving me a choice between the two, I would probably pick Atkinson based on what he did with the young nets team and the way they developed. After thinking about it, I'm having second thoughts about Atkinson. He is a MDA disciple and one of the many things I didn't like about MDA was the lack of adjustments he made in-game. I don't watch many net games but read that a net insider or reporter mentioned that in-game management was a weakness of Atkinson. Feel like I need more information on Atkinson before I go all in. But, he is intriguing.

With that said, can't compare the nets vets to ours. KD and Kyrie are NBA champions and hall of famers who are looking at competing for a 'chip next year. Also, there were reports that Kyrie had issues with Brad Stevens. Those diva's have been there and done that so that may feel that Atkinson ain't the right fit, rightly or wrongly. Only way our vets are getting into the hall of fame is the same way me and you are getting in.

wargames wrote:I don’t see what Atkinson can’t be the new HC and Miller the associate HC. Atkinson offense isn’t good and he believes in defense, but Miller would be able to come in this year and continue working on defense with the youth.

Not a good idea...I don't like the idea of the front office forcing an assistant coach on a newly hired Head Coach. Atkinson, if hired, should be allowed to hire his own staff of coaches.

That time came a lot sooner than many expected, with the Nets and Atkinson parting ways over the weekend — after a blowout win on Friday and 20 games left in Brooklyn’s season and a repeat playoff appearance on the horizon despite only 20 games for Irving before season-ending shoulder surgery and none from Durant. Jacque Vaughn was named the coach for the remainder of the season.

“Kenny will be back coaching soon,” one source with knowledge of the situation said. “He works too hard. Works his ass off. He will probably take the time away and replay the scenarios and relationships that went wrong — and come back stronger for the job he wants.”

The Athletic has learned what led to the departure of Atkinson, and that honest and frank discussions between Nets players and Atkinson intensified last week, which certainly played a part in it.

At halftime of the Nets’ 129-120 overtime win in Boston on March 3, Atkinson lit into his players and challenged them, sources say. It stopped short of escalating into a long back and forth, but this much was evident: Atkinson was not backing down. He was not holding back. He later pulled every starter off the floor for the fourth quarter and let Caris LeVert and a group of reserves rally from a 21-point deficit. Then on Wednesday night, after a 39-point home loss to Memphis, no one held back.

Atkinson walked into the postgame locker room, sat down in a chair and told his players and staff: It’s time to air out our grievances.

The Nets held a spirited team meeting, according to sources, starting with several veterans expressing that they wanted to see Spencer Dinwiddie play like the player they know, and later with people in the room calling out Dinwiddie and DeAndre Jordan. Then perhaps the most critical thing of all happened: Durant chimed in, pointing out that the Nets must improve their habits and that they were not building the proper culture traits necessary for a title contender.

A two-time world champion and two-time Finals MVP, Durant is expected to lead the Nets next season after having spent all of this one on the sideline while recovering from a torn Achilles tendon. He and one-time world champion Irving lifted Brooklyn into super-team status last summer by choosing to join forces there, Irving as a free-agent and Durant through a sign-and trade from Golden State, which failed to get him to stay. Jordan was part of the Durant/Irving package deal, with the three agreeing via a FaceTime call around 4 a.m. on the opening day of free agency to take their services to Brooklyn.

Durant and Irving never connected with Atkinson and there was a growing belief that they did not have interest in playing for him when this team is whole again next season, sources told The Athletic.

It was not limited to just Durant and Irving, though. Several other players are also said to have begun disconnecting with Atkinson.

To be clear, a directive from Irving or Durant was not given to fire Atkinson. Marks and his front office are leaders of the franchise. The proper research must be done, and gathering a pulse of the franchise is always ongoing. The belief had been that the stakeholders involved in the franchise would evaluate everything at season’s end. However, enough information had been gathered prior to that, and even Atkinson, sources said, started to understand he had lost his most critical players. As a result, the Nets’ front office had to take all of the information it had at its disposal to make a difficult decision.

During Wednesday’s spirited postgame meeting, the players did not shy away from critiquing Atkinson, expressing to the coach that they wanted him to identify roles better, communicate the team’s hierarchy better, change what needs fixing and not settle for the status quo. It summed up the growing displeasure with Atkinson’s communication levels, as well.

“It was a come-to-Jesus moment,” one source with knowledge of the meeting said. “It was an honest conversation where everyone tried to make things right.”

During the blowout loss to Memphis, Jordan had verbally expressed his frustrations to Atkinson and the coaching staff about the team’s rotation, encapsulating the season-long tension that evolved from the head coach bringing Jordan off the bench, sources said. Jordan is said to have believed he would be the full-time starting center after he, Durant and Irving joined the team. When Atkinson made Jarrett Allen the starting center this season, it changed the dynamics. On Sunday, in the team’s first game after Atkinson’s departure, Jordan returned to the starting lineup in place of Allen.

Jordan has said throughout the season that it’s been an adjustment for him to come off of the bench, but has tried to make the best of it. Allen has said all the right things and said he’s enjoyed learning from him and wouldn’t want Jordan benched in his favor if it affected the team’s success. After splitting minutes throughout the season, Jordan overtook Allen in February in terms of minutes played by a handful.

In the fourth quarter of close games, it had been Jordan getting the lion’s share of minutes, which showed Atkinson’s trust in Jordan over Allen. Atkinson said around the All-Star break that he was still getting to know his newer players, including Jordan. When Jordan was asked about his relationship with Atkinson after a loss in Washington on Feb. 26, the usually personable Jordan didn’t have much to say.

“I mean Kenny’s played against me for years,” he said. “He knows me as a player.”

This aftermath of Wednesday’s meeting was going to go one of two ways. Either Atkinson would return to the team setting more motivated to fix the issues the players had — or Atkinson would lose confidence in himself as the head coach and lose grip of the team. Sources described Atkinson as dejected, and in the two days that follow he is said to have talked to people about not allowing anyone to dictate his job, about going out on his own terms if necessary, with two years guaranteed left on his contract.

This is the NBA and this is business. So when Marks sent a message to his entire roster on Saturday morning about the firing of Atkinson, there was surprise among the team. The eventual parting had been deemed inevitable in recent days, but to do so one month before the postseason?

Something had to have happened.

From the onset of Nets training camp, the concerns over the offensive structure and other strategies implemented by Atkinson were not addressed. Atkinson was defiant and strong-willed: He would handle the team his way. He maintained his offensive and defensive philosophies. However, his “equal opportunity” offense did not mesh with the team’s most critical players, according to sources, and there ultimately was not enough productive communication among him, Durant and Irving and a vast amount of players.

The integration of Durant and Irving would be complex. This was Irving’s team in 2019-20, with Durant joining his co-star next season once he had fully recovered from a torn Achilles tendon. It was expected to be a gap year for these Nets, one with purpose and hopes and an understanding of the grand scheme awaiting in the summer of 2020.

Atkinson talked often during the season about a lineup with Irving, LeVert and Dinwiddie on the floor together at the same time. Atkinson’s reasoning was that, at its best, the lineup would feature three players who wouldn’t be deferring to one another when playing together. Dinwiddie, meanwhile, said publicly that for it to work they would need to establish a pecking order among the scorers, with Irving taking the lead. But the Nets never really got an extended look at that lineup due to Irving and LeVert each missing extended time due to injuries.

The straw that broke the camel’s back came Friday at the practice facility, when GM Sean Marks and Atkinson discussed his waning voice with the team. One source said the final decision to part ways was not made until late Friday night and into Saturday.

Even in his final days as head coach, Atkinson told people that if he were going to be fired, he was going to depart on his terms. An offseason dismissal was almost inevitable, and so Atkinson made it known: If you’re going to fire me, just let me out now.

In many ways, the Nets got ahead of what was already probably coming.

Brooklyn is committed to Vaughn and seeing this current staff through. There’s a reason Atkinson is regarded as one of the best developmental coaches in the league; one who will assuredly receive opportunities again this summer. But the Nets have been high on the entire staff and its preparation, work ethic and concepts. The Nets have full confidence and support in the current coaching staff, sources said. Surely, external candidates will begin to emerge as the next few weeks go on.

These Nets still have two of the sport’s top players, a creative front office intact and championship-contending aspirations going into next season, but a part of their fabric left on Saturday.

“I would’ve loved to have Kenny here long-term,” Marks said during a news conference on Saturday. “It was time for another voice in that locker room.”

A new culture will emerge in Brooklyn. It will just no longer be Atkinson’s.
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