Sambakick wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

Sambakick wrote:

Vmart wrote:

Sambakick wrote:

smackeddog wrote:Couldn’t wait til the offseason for someone with a proven track record, instead goes for a big name with zero experience in the role they’re being hired for because he thinks it will land him a star player in free agency. We learn nothing

He has a proven track record of negotiating great deals.

For his players. Now try that from an team perspective it’s gonna be a whole lot different to negotiate a fair deal. Another bad hire the old lets use the connections game. It has never worked out for the Knicks.

He knows how to negotiate. He knows how the game is played. He's an insider. He has contacts all over.

I'm giving him a chance. You guys are doing the media thing "oh this is so the knicks.... oh dolan...."

CAA has had a long history of influencing the Knicks with results that ending up with us giving up lottery picks for Andrea Bargnani. You telling me using those picks for Majiri wouldn't have been a better?

This is like saying you don't want a certain player on your team because he always kills the Knicks.
If you're telling me we hired a guy who used to screw us over then i'm good with that because he's our guy now and he'll screw others over.

No, this is like saying let's promote the consigliere who always gave us crap advice and make him head of the family. Nothing really good has come from this relationship.

BigDaddyG wrote:

Sambakick wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

Sambakick wrote:

Vmart wrote:

Sambakick wrote:

smackeddog wrote:Couldn’t wait til the offseason for someone with a proven track record, instead goes for a big name with zero experience in the role they’re being hired for because he thinks it will land him a star player in free agency. We learn nothing

He has a proven track record of negotiating great deals.

For his players. Now try that from an team perspective it’s gonna be a whole lot different to negotiate a fair deal. Another bad hire the old lets use the connections game. It has never worked out for the Knicks.

He knows how to negotiate. He knows how the game is played. He's an insider. He has contacts all over.

I'm giving him a chance. You guys are doing the media thing "oh this is so the knicks.... oh dolan...."

CAA has had a long history of influencing the Knicks with results that ending up with us giving up lottery picks for Andrea Bargnani. You telling me using those picks for Majiri wouldn't have been a better?

This is like saying you don't want a certain player on your team because he always kills the Knicks.
If you're telling me we hired a guy who used to screw us over then i'm good with that because he's our guy now and he'll screw others over.

No, this is like saying let's promote the consigliere who always gave us crap advice and make him head of the family. Nothing really good has come from this relationship.

He wasn't the consigliere of THIS family he was working for ANOTHER FAMILY.

team building, scouting, etc - all of that is an unknown.

on a personal note - masai still a raptor :) :) :) :)

newyorknewyork wrote:We needed dudes that move like Tim Connelly and Art Karnisovas from Denver. Everything is sound from drafting, developing, signing FAs, retaining their players with solid deals, trades. And they continue to flip the excess to keep it moving. That move they just involved themselves in to flip Beasley who is solid and Hernangomez for Bates Diop and future first will prove to be another good move in a long line of them.

excellent post. I posted the other day querying if anyone even knew the Denver GM -- who has been awesome. I would have preferred someone similar; non-celebrity, all business and effective

Sambakick wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

Sambakick wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

Sambakick wrote:

Vmart wrote:

Sambakick wrote:

smackeddog wrote:Couldn’t wait til the offseason for someone with a proven track record, instead goes for a big name with zero experience in the role they’re being hired for because he thinks it will land him a star player in free agency. We learn nothing

He has a proven track record of negotiating great deals.

For his players. Now try that from an team perspective it’s gonna be a whole lot different to negotiate a fair deal. Another bad hire the old lets use the connections game. It has never worked out for the Knicks.

He knows how to negotiate. He knows how the game is played. He's an insider. He has contacts all over.

I'm giving him a chance. You guys are doing the media thing "oh this is so the knicks.... oh dolan...."

CAA has had a long history of influencing the Knicks with results that ending up with us giving up lottery picks for Andrea Bargnani. You telling me using those picks for Majiri wouldn't have been a better?

This is like saying you don't want a certain player on your team because he always kills the Knicks.
If you're telling me we hired a guy who used to screw us over then i'm good with that because he's our guy now and he'll screw others over.

No, this is like saying let's promote the consigliere who always gave us crap advice and make him head of the family. Nothing really good has come from this relationship.

He wasn't the consigliere of THIS family he was working for ANOTHER FAMILY.

One if the reasons Donnie Walsh left was because he felt undermined by the influence CAA had on Dolan...They were his acting advisors. They were also gifted Steve Mills.

djsunyc wrote:the thinking here is quite simple - hire an agent to run the team b/c he may have the in to attract bigger name players to the franchise.

team building, scouting, etc - all of that is an unknown.

on a personal note - masai still a raptor :) :) :) :)

Marv....Where are you? your buddy is being a butt.

arkrud wrote:At least this time it is more honest.
We were abused by CAA now we will be run by them.
Fans who like flushing and burning stars and per-retirement great character vets CAA owned too will be happy.
NY needs drama. It is not some freaking Oakland or San Antonio and NBA is not boring NHL.
Working hard and winning is not good enough. We need excitement.

So you are saying that now we will be ****ed from within? So, business as usual?

this could have been in the pipe since the infamous press conference throwing Fizz under the buss, when supposedly everyone else was on notice

It could have been in the pipe when all the star FA didn't even visit

Mills may have been fired when he was because Dolan, and maybe Rose, thought Mills was ready to do something rash to save his ass. Reportedly Mills and Perry weren't seeing eye to eye on something. Maybe Rose likes Perry's eye for second round talent (this is actually a good thing -- most of the good teams find value here).

BigDaddyG wrote:

djsunyc wrote:

the thinking here is quite simple - hire an agent to run the team b/c he may have the in to attract bigger name players to the franchise.

team building, scouting, etc - all of that is an unknown.

on a personal note - masai still a raptor :) :) :) :)

Yeah, like the time we hired that charismatic all star point guard with no FO experience because we thought he would attract big name players to the franchise. Or that time we hired that Hall of Fame coach with no FO experience because we thought it would attract bigger names. This franchise is lost.