knicks1248 wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

martin wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:the Best and the worst of this off season

Best deals
JJ Redick — two years, $26.5 million
The modern NBA is all about shooters, and the guy who hit over three treys a game and totaled 18.1 ppg for the 76ers got an average of over $13 million a year? That feels like a steal even though he’s 35.

Tomas Satoransky — three years, $30 million
After taking over the injured John Wall, Satoransky looked every bit like a starting point guard in the NBA, and now he’ll get to be one with the Bulls for just $10 million per season. I would rather have him than Terry Rozier at $28 million more (see below).

Derrick Rose — two years, $15 million
Yes, he’s 30. Yes, he’s not the MVP he once was. But dude just scored 18.0 ppg for the Wolves. A nice get for the Pistons.

Isaiah Thomas — 1 year, $2.2 million
Same as Rose — he’s probably not what he once was, but he’ll prove he needs to be in a contender’s rotation by midseason on a minimum contract.

Kevon Looney — three years, $15 million
I’m wondering if the Warriors convinced one of their more important rotation players in the postseason to sign for less than he was worth because of their cap and tax situation, because that’s the only way I can explain this.

DeMarcus Cousins — 1 year, $3.5 million
He will end up being worth so much more than that and earn a long-term deal for it next summer.

Worst deals
Terry Rozier — three years, $58 million
The Hornets are hoping they get Scary Terry, but they’re banking A LOT on Rozier being the player he was for the Celtics in the 2018 playoffs. How good will he be on a bad team?

Khris Middleton — five years, $178 million
Let me start this off by saying I am a HUGE Middleton fan. He does a lot on both ends of the floor. But he’s being paid superstar money when he isn’t a superstar. It’s totally fine for the Bucks, who need Middleton to both keep Giannis Antetokounmpo happy and keep Milwaukee competing for a title. But without that context? It’s too much.

Ricky Rubio — three years, $51 million
We all know the Suns needed a point guard, but I just don’t think the veteran who isn’t the best of shooters will end up being worth that contract.

Bobby Portis — two years, $31 million
His numbers are great on paper (14.3 ppg, 8.6 rpg, 40.3 from three). But Marcus Morris (I know, he’s older) just signed for $11 million less.

Harrison Barnes — four years, $85 million
The Kings had to retain Barnes after trading for him, but that is way too much money for a player who is good, not great.

we somehow still made the worst list

I would have signed most of these guys for 2 yrs, and team option on a 3rd, that keeps players focus on building something this yr, and next, as opposed to playing for there next contract.

sounds to me that some of you think pressing the reset button every yr is the start of a great culture..lol

Is any of the PF/C we have better then cousins

You don't have a good command of basic facts.

What is the Bobby Portis contract vs Morris contract?

https://ftw.usatoday.com/2019/07/nba-best-worst-contracts-2019-offseason

I'm sorry i didn't post the link i got that from

Ok, the article was written before the Knicks agreed to a deal with Morris.

I think we may get caught in no man's land at the trade deadline..

2 to 4 games out of the playoffs with 30 games left to play..

which direction to you go in, trade the expiring deals for assets, or keep pushing with the same group knowing your very close

This is why you come across as complaining for the sake of complaining. All last year you were saying we shouldn't tank and you can't rebuild via the draft. Now we've signed guys to avoid tanking, you're complaining about us being trapped in no man's land.

smackeddog wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

martin wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:the Best and the worst of this off season

Best deals
JJ Redick — two years, $26.5 million
The modern NBA is all about shooters, and the guy who hit over three treys a game and totaled 18.1 ppg for the 76ers got an average of over $13 million a year? That feels like a steal even though he’s 35.

Tomas Satoransky — three years, $30 million
After taking over the injured John Wall, Satoransky looked every bit like a starting point guard in the NBA, and now he’ll get to be one with the Bulls for just $10 million per season. I would rather have him than Terry Rozier at $28 million more (see below).

Derrick Rose — two years, $15 million
Yes, he’s 30. Yes, he’s not the MVP he once was. But dude just scored 18.0 ppg for the Wolves. A nice get for the Pistons.

Isaiah Thomas — 1 year, $2.2 million
Same as Rose — he’s probably not what he once was, but he’ll prove he needs to be in a contender’s rotation by midseason on a minimum contract.

Kevon Looney — three years, $15 million
I’m wondering if the Warriors convinced one of their more important rotation players in the postseason to sign for less than he was worth because of their cap and tax situation, because that’s the only way I can explain this.

DeMarcus Cousins — 1 year, $3.5 million
He will end up being worth so much more than that and earn a long-term deal for it next summer.

Worst deals
Terry Rozier — three years, $58 million
The Hornets are hoping they get Scary Terry, but they’re banking A LOT on Rozier being the player he was for the Celtics in the 2018 playoffs. How good will he be on a bad team?

Khris Middleton — five years, $178 million
Let me start this off by saying I am a HUGE Middleton fan. He does a lot on both ends of the floor. But he’s being paid superstar money when he isn’t a superstar. It’s totally fine for the Bucks, who need Middleton to both keep Giannis Antetokounmpo happy and keep Milwaukee competing for a title. But without that context? It’s too much.

Ricky Rubio — three years, $51 million
We all know the Suns needed a point guard, but I just don’t think the veteran who isn’t the best of shooters will end up being worth that contract.

Bobby Portis — two years, $31 million
His numbers are great on paper (14.3 ppg, 8.6 rpg, 40.3 from three). But Marcus Morris (I know, he’s older) just signed for $11 million less.

Harrison Barnes — four years, $85 million
The Kings had to retain Barnes after trading for him, but that is way too much money for a player who is good, not great.

we somehow still made the worst list

I would have signed most of these guys for 2 yrs, and team option on a 3rd, that keeps players focus on building something this yr, and next, as opposed to playing for there next contract.

sounds to me that some of you think pressing the reset button every yr is the start of a great culture..lol

Is any of the PF/C we have better then cousins

You don't have a good command of basic facts.

What is the Bobby Portis contract vs Morris contract?

https://ftw.usatoday.com/2019/07/nba-best-worst-contracts-2019-offseason

I'm sorry i didn't post the link i got that from

Ok, the article was written before the Knicks agreed to a deal with Morris.

I think we may get caught in no man's land at the trade deadline..

2 to 4 games out of the playoffs with 30 games left to play..

which direction to you go in, trade the expiring deals for assets, or keep pushing with the same group knowing your very close

This is why you come across as complaining for the sake of complaining. All last year you were saying we shouldn't tank and you can't rebuild via the draft. Now we've signed guys to avoid tanking, you're complaining about us being trapped in no man's land.

Reality changes but mind is stack with the same agenda.
Sadness about the past and fear about the future.
The happiness is only in present moment of ever changing reality.
Pure dude has no idea how to stay in present moment...

knicks1248 wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

martin wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:the Best and the worst of this off season

Best deals
JJ Redick — two years, $26.5 million
The modern NBA is all about shooters, and the guy who hit over three treys a game and totaled 18.1 ppg for the 76ers got an average of over $13 million a year? That feels like a steal even though he’s 35.

Tomas Satoransky — three years, $30 million
After taking over the injured John Wall, Satoransky looked every bit like a starting point guard in the NBA, and now he’ll get to be one with the Bulls for just $10 million per season. I would rather have him than Terry Rozier at $28 million more (see below).

Derrick Rose — two years, $15 million
Yes, he’s 30. Yes, he’s not the MVP he once was. But dude just scored 18.0 ppg for the Wolves. A nice get for the Pistons.

Isaiah Thomas — 1 year, $2.2 million
Same as Rose — he’s probably not what he once was, but he’ll prove he needs to be in a contender’s rotation by midseason on a minimum contract.

Kevon Looney — three years, $15 million
I’m wondering if the Warriors convinced one of their more important rotation players in the postseason to sign for less than he was worth because of their cap and tax situation, because that’s the only way I can explain this.

DeMarcus Cousins — 1 year, $3.5 million
He will end up being worth so much more than that and earn a long-term deal for it next summer.

Worst deals
Terry Rozier — three years, $58 million
The Hornets are hoping they get Scary Terry, but they’re banking A LOT on Rozier being the player he was for the Celtics in the 2018 playoffs. How good will he be on a bad team?

Khris Middleton — five years, $178 million
Let me start this off by saying I am a HUGE Middleton fan. He does a lot on both ends of the floor. But he’s being paid superstar money when he isn’t a superstar. It’s totally fine for the Bucks, who need Middleton to both keep Giannis Antetokounmpo happy and keep Milwaukee competing for a title. But without that context? It’s too much.

Ricky Rubio — three years, $51 million
We all know the Suns needed a point guard, but I just don’t think the veteran who isn’t the best of shooters will end up being worth that contract.

Bobby Portis — two years, $31 million
His numbers are great on paper (14.3 ppg, 8.6 rpg, 40.3 from three). But Marcus Morris (I know, he’s older) just signed for $11 million less.

Harrison Barnes — four years, $85 million
The Kings had to retain Barnes after trading for him, but that is way too much money for a player who is good, not great.

we somehow still made the worst list

I would have signed most of these guys for 2 yrs, and team option on a 3rd, that keeps players focus on building something this yr, and next, as opposed to playing for there next contract.

sounds to me that some of you think pressing the reset button every yr is the start of a great culture..lol

Is any of the PF/C we have better then cousins

You don't have a good command of basic facts.

What is the Bobby Portis contract vs Morris contract?

https://ftw.usatoday.com/2019/07/nba-best-worst-contracts-2019-offseason

I'm sorry i didn't post the link i got that from

Ok, the article was written before the Knicks agreed to a deal with Morris.

I think we may get caught in no man's land at the trade deadline..

2 to 4 games out of the playoffs with 30 games left to play..

which direction to you go in, trade the expiring deals for assets, or keep pushing with the same group knowing your very close

This is why you come across as complaining for the sake of complaining. All last year you were saying we shouldn't tank and you can't rebuild via the draft. Now we've signed guys to avoid tanking, you're complaining about us being trapped in no man's land.

No ones complaining, I asked a question in the event a scenario comes around, sort halfway in halfway out.

The knicks set out to tank from Day 1 last season, and they have never once utter playoffs as a goal (only the players)since mills. For once in Mills Knicks career, I want him to come out and say with confidence that our goal is to try and make they playoffs.

You have to put that our there to show you have the utmost confidence in the players you put together, you want to make them feel like they are good enough to make it happen, put a little pressure on perry and Fiz to make sure our players are prepared and ready for 48 minutes every game.

That's when the vibe and culture will change. If you come out with a lackluster approach to the season,a sort of wait and see approach, that's what your going to get from some of the players.

Actions speak louder than words. The culture will change when the talent increases and internal competition creates intensity to perform and win. WE have read many proclamations by players, coaches and management over many years. The story is told on the court.