CrushAlot wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:Knicks have 70mil in cap, 7 first round picks over the next 5 years, and 5-7 prospects on their current roster.

Knicks have never had this type of assets, cap, and flexibility combination since I have been following them. Which says that something is different here. Barrett is the highest pick the Knicks have obtained since drafting Ewing in “84” 35 years ago.

The fact that we have gotten this far shows that something is different today then the past. Mills may have even been the cause of all the problems of the past. If he learned from his mistakes and builds something of substance here today and going forward, good. I don’t need blood for past misery. I just need them to keep their **** together.

Well said.

Now let hope they use it to level up

newyorknewyork wrote:Knicks have 70mil in cap, 7 first round picks over the next 5 years, and 5-7 prospects on their current roster.

Knicks have never had this type of assets, cap, and flexibility combination since I have been following them. Which says that something is different here. Barrett is the highest pick the Knicks have obtained since drafting Ewing in “84” 35 years ago.

The fact that we have gotten this far shows that something is different today then the past. Mills may have even been the cause of all the problems of the past. If he learned from his mistakes and builds something of substance here today and going forward, good. I don’t need blood for past misery. I just need them to keep their **** together.

could not have said it better myself!!!
Maybe I could but it would have taken longer!!!

TripleThreat wrote:

Cartman718 wrote:and He's managed to convince Doland to put an all black front office together between him, Perry, Fiz, Craig Robinson. That gives me faith in him. I was a bit mad at the THJr signing, but have forgiven him because of what has happened since.

We are talking about a sport where the majority of the players are of African descent and the Knicks are the only FO to represent that right. Yes...that does give me faith in him.

You do realize under your criteria, guys like Coach K, Chuck Daly and Erik Spolestra might not have ever gotten a chance to coach at this level right?

Under your criteria against all of professional sports, you might also have taken the opportunity away from guys like Bill Belichick and Tony LaRussa.

The Cavs just hired a female assistant coach from the college ranks. There are zero female NBA players. You do realize that under your criteria, she would never get an opportunity right?

"Represent that right" - What the **** are you even talking about?

Professional sports is still a hard meritocracy. Yes, you will get situations like Brian Schottenheimer, but if you don't produce, you will eventually get churned out. You still need to produce.

What makes a great player does not mean he will be a good coach or a good executive.

Most of you will see this in your own industries. A great doctor might not make a great director of medicine at a hospital. A great engineer might not make a great head of an engineering firm. A great cop might not make a great chief of police. A great teacher might not make a great principal. A great mayor might not make a great governor.

Plenty of people are great personal trainers, bartenders and chefs and have zero business running a gym, a bar or a restaurant, this is proven just by simple observation in every day life.

WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU EVEN TALKING ABOUT?

There are a ****load of gay players in professional sports. Always have been. Should there be a proportional representation of gay coaches for those players? What about those with specific religious affiliation? Many players have actual mental illness ( not just Ron Artest), should there be a segment set aside for bi-polar coaches?

You preach some kind of bull**** equality, but you only make it clear YOU DON'T ACTUALLY GIVE A FUCK ABOUT ANYONE ELSE EXCEPT THOSE WHO FIT YOUR MOTHERFUCKING AGENDA.

Basic sports reality - YOU KEEP WHAT YOU KILL

If you hire someone for any reason other than winning, you punish your team and franchise and they will lose and that is the worst punishment in all of sports. You picked a reason other than winning. You found an agenda that puts winning second. That is the most unforgivable sin in all of sports.

YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO YOUR OPINION. I HAVE BEEN ON THIS SITE FOR YEARS AND I'VE NEVER TRIED TO TAKE THAT FROM ANYONE ( THOUGH I'VE TOLD PEOPLE I THINK THEIR IDEAS WERE BAD OR DUMB) KEEP YOUR OPINION IF YOU LIKE, BUT DON'T EVER PRETEND YOU ACTUALLY GIVE A FUCK ABOUT EQUALITY. BECAUSE I DON'T HEAR YOU RAILING FOR ASIAN COACHES, WOMEN AS COACHES, GAYS AS COACHES, WICKANS AS COACHES OR ANYTHING CLOSE TO BEING AS ABSURD AS YOUR ORIGINAL PREMISE.

But it's not FAIR!

You mean in a high profile job where there are only like 30 positions in the entire ****ing world? Add up team presidents, GMs and head coaches. 90 jobs in the entire ****ing world. High profile and desirable and high status jobs. And yet the process to get something so in demand just might not be totally fair! You don't ****ing say!

How about focusing on what makes the Knicks WIN GAMES instead of losing them? How can you take the absurdly simple and make it so ****ing hard?

was out of the country and vacationing so i didn't get a chance to read this post until now, but believe it or not, there are parts of your post i agree with. you're just mistaken about the whole "agenda" thing, which is fine. i wont resort to expletives or name calling.

if someone today told me that in the NHL where the majority of the players are white, that the coach GM and president are not white...i'd be very surprised. i don't follow the NHL..could never really get into it. if someone told me that in china, in the CBA, where the majority of the players are chinese...that the majority of the coaches were anything but chinese, i'd be very surprised. https://basketball.realgm.com/international/league/40/Chinese-CBA/head-coaches

so why is it that in the NBA and NFL where a substantial chunk of players of african descent play that once they retire, they cannot find a job as a head coach, vp, gm, or president. Can't tell me that race or racism has nothing to do with it, because I am sure they are applying. The majority of the players in the NBA are not asian or women or gay (as far as we know), so equality is part of the equation. The other part is the pool to pick from. In this case, the pool is filled with black men who would be very interested in FO positions, but rarely get them all exception being the Knicks. wonder why that is... Shouldn't it be more so the norm than the exception?