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wargames
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martin
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![]() Vmart wrote:If Channing Fry can become a three point specialist I can’t see why Kanter wouldn’t be able to shoot threes. Kanter has a decent mid range game just needs to expand it. My only grip with Kanter is his defense is putrid. False. Kanter has a nearly non-existant mid range game. Look it up: https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/k/kanteen01.html Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
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Vmart
Posts: 31800 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 5/23/2002 Member: #247 USA |
![]() martin wrote:Vmart wrote:If Channing Fry can become a three point specialist I can’t see why Kanter wouldn’t be able to shoot threes. Kanter has a decent mid range game just needs to expand it. My only grip with Kanter is his defense is putrid. Because you don’t see it often doesn’t mean he doesn’t have it. He just doesn’t use it as much as he probably can. |
martin
Posts: 76242 Alba Posts: 108 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #2 USA |
![]() Vmart wrote:martin wrote:Vmart wrote:If Channing Fry can become a three point specialist I can’t see why Kanter wouldn’t be able to shoot threes. Kanter has a decent mid range game just needs to expand it. My only grip with Kanter is his defense is putrid. Is that how it works these days? Just wish that maybe has something he doesn't and it'll appear? I just gave you a link to his raw stats, check out the Shooting table. Kanter barely shoots outside of 10 feet, and when he did, he didn't do it well. Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
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Vmart
Posts: 31800 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 5/23/2002 Member: #247 USA |
![]() martin wrote:Vmart wrote:martin wrote:Vmart wrote:If Channing Fry can become a three point specialist I can’t see why Kanter wouldn’t be able to shoot threes. Kanter has a decent mid range game just needs to expand it. My only grip with Kanter is his defense is putrid. He does have it you just saw him in highlights doing just what you said he didn’t have. There is no difference in taking chances on young players who have been under achieving or are busts and hoping that they can turn a corner. I think Briggs had started a thread on Kanter and his mid range game a while back ago. He was wondering what happened to that outside shooting. I agree that Kanter tends to drive to the basket when a simple jumper would have sufficed but he was pretty good and shot a very good percentage. When a player gets a green light to shoot threes it makes a difference in approach I can see Kanter knocking down 30-35% from three point land. |
martin
Posts: 76242 Alba Posts: 108 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #2 USA |
![]() Vmart wrote:martin wrote:Vmart wrote:martin wrote:Vmart wrote:If Channing Fry can become a three point specialist I can’t see why Kanter wouldn’t be able to shoot threes. Kanter has a decent mid range game just needs to expand it. My only grip with Kanter is his defense is putrid. You just made the argument that because there is a YouTube highlight of a player doing something, he "has" it. Over the past 3 years Kanter has shot 25% from 3point land. You still think he has a 3pt shot? Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
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Markji
Posts: 22753 Alba Posts: -4 Joined: 9/14/2007 Member: #1673 USA |
![]() martin wrote:Vmart wrote:martin wrote:Vmart wrote:martin wrote:Vmart wrote:If Channing Fry can become a three point specialist I can’t see why Kanter wouldn’t be able to shoot threes. Kanter has a decent mid range game just needs to expand it. My only grip with Kanter is his defense is putrid. The point is not if in the past Kanter has a 3pt shot but if he can develop one for this upcoming year. He is working on it so why can't he??? Why do you say No when the response should be maybe. Let's see. Read my post above on how Fizdale developed Bosh and most recently Marc Gasol who never had or took 3 pt shots before Fizdale. Gasol shot 36% for the last 2 years. Why can't Kanter develop? And Fizdale will run plays so the center will come out to the 3 pt line; get a pass and shoot a 3 while being wide open. The opposing center would have to come out to the 3 pt line to guard Kanter. In watching various videos, the centers DON'T. They leave their man wide open at the 3 pt line. The difference between fiction and reality? Fiction has to make sense.
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Vmart
Posts: 31800 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 5/23/2002 Member: #247 USA |
![]() martin wrote:Vmart wrote:martin wrote:Vmart wrote:martin wrote:Vmart wrote:If Channing Fry can become a three point specialist I can’t see why Kanter wouldn’t be able to shoot threes. Kanter has a decent mid range game just needs to expand it. My only grip with Kanter is his defense is putrid. You really don’t like to admit when your wrong. If it makes you feel better you’re right. |
fishmike
Posts: 53837 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/19/2002 Member: #298 USA |
![]() Welpee wrote:http://www.82games.com/1718/17NYK21.HTMMarkji wrote:And last year he wasn't as bad as advertised on the defensive end. No, he wasn't great but he wasn't as big a liability as a lot of us feared. Now I assume this is where somebody posts some advance stat that is suppose to the be final word on any argument in spite of what you actually witnessed on the court.TripleThreat wrote:newyorker4ever wrote:reub wrote:Welpee wrote:TripleThreat wrote:The issue isn't Kanter's continued development, rather his fit in whatever system Fizdale runs.Welpee wrote:Questions: Look at KAnter's opposing FG% Centers who play vs. Kanter light it up. Every night. Kanter scores 27.8ppg with an EFG% of .593 per 48mins (thats good) Effective FG% Allowed Pretty much every metric, eye test, stat, game log, message forum and genie in a bottle all point to Kanter's defense being as horrible as advertised. Guys like Greg Monroe have better opposing FG%s. Kanter's D is among the worst of any player getting minutes in the league "winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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GustavBahler
Posts: 42813 Alba Posts: 15 Joined: 7/12/2010 Member: #3186 |
![]() fishmike wrote:Welpee wrote:http://www.82games.com/1718/17NYK21.HTMMarkji wrote:And last year he wasn't as bad as advertised on the defensive end. No, he wasn't great but he wasn't as big a liability as a lot of us feared. Now I assume this is where somebody posts some advance stat that is suppose to the be final word on any argument in spite of what you actually witnessed on the court.TripleThreat wrote:newyorker4ever wrote:reub wrote:Welpee wrote:TripleThreat wrote:The issue isn't Kanter's continued development, rather his fit in whatever system Fizdale runs.Welpee wrote:Questions: Check out his defensive numbers in the paint vs. the perimeter. Respectable in the paint, not so respectable on the perimeter. |