newyorknewyork wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:either other rookies could care less, or he's not that good,

Arguably, one of the most ignorant conclusions you could have reached.

Already got shot down by folks here who concluded, quite logically, that not having seen Frank play in college or in the SL just might have hurt his chances in this survey.

But hey...don't let logic interfere with your position...right?

Oh...by the way, are the fans of ALL the teams which picked ahead of Dallas apoplectic over this survey? Everybody had a chance to pick Smith, one of the older players chosen in the lottery, I think, and about 2 years older than our guy. Are they up in arms over THEIR team not choosing him, since he seems to be a lock for ROY?

Might want to give Frenchie some time...no?

basically you called yourself ignorant by saying what I said in different words.

I already said other rookies have little to no knowledge of who he really is, neither do we, so wtf are you talking about?

In fact, we really don't know what any of the rookies will amount to

"or he's not that good." Not ignorant enough to make this statement YOU made though, am I.

Nothing I said puts me on your level, thankfully.

Nalod completely shot you down with the KP vote. The vote is meaningless, and considering Frenchie did not play in SL or at an American college, the vote becomes ridiculous as far as he is concerned.

Either you were trying to be provocative, or you have no idea of how to reason. Which one was it, bro.

He has possibly half the board(random measurement) trying to figure that out when he post. lol

Look, berman wrote the article, i posted the article because im sure we are all hoping frank turns out great.

Now because i said i would be livid (like thousands of other fans) if he turns out to be trash, one guy say's thats ignorant statement, another guy brings up kp's votes, i don't know what im talking about.

You guys are pretty much trolling because i never said i didn't like frank, never sided with the rookies or the article.

I don't write ignorant sht, just remember, i was the first to praise woodson when he took over, and the first to say he was done, first to call out fisher and put him on the hot seat, was on board with phil and one of the first to say he's not going to make it, and i was never on board with trading melo this off season. lOOK AT HOW IT ALL TURNS OUT..

certain sht you can see early, and some have accused me of been negative, but i hardly ever come back and say i told you this sht was going to happen. Some of you just take longer to realize the inevitable.

But just so you know..FRANK IS MY GUY RIGHT NOW, he' a knick, I'm hoping he's top 3 in his class. If he's not, heads will roll

knicks1248 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:either other rookies could care less, or he's not that good,

Arguably, one of the most ignorant conclusions you could have reached.

Already got shot down by folks here who concluded, quite logically, that not having seen Frank play in college or in the SL just might have hurt his chances in this survey.

But hey...don't let logic interfere with your position...right?

Oh...by the way, are the fans of ALL the teams which picked ahead of Dallas apoplectic over this survey? Everybody had a chance to pick Smith, one of the older players chosen in the lottery, I think, and about 2 years older than our guy. Are they up in arms over THEIR team not choosing him, since he seems to be a lock for ROY?

Might want to give Frenchie some time...no?

basically you called yourself ignorant by saying what I said in different words.

I already said other rookies have little to no knowledge of who he really is, neither do we, so wtf are you talking about?

In fact, we really don't know what any of the rookies will amount to

"or he's not that good." Not ignorant enough to make this statement YOU made though, am I.

Nothing I said puts me on your level, thankfully.

Nalod completely shot you down with the KP vote. The vote is meaningless, and considering Frenchie did not play in SL or at an American college, the vote becomes ridiculous as far as he is concerned.

Either you were trying to be provocative, or you have no idea of how to reason. Which one was it, bro.

He has possibly half the board(random measurement) trying to figure that out when he post. lol

Look, berman wrote the article, i posted the article because im sure we are all hoping frank turns out great.

Now because i said i would be livid (like thousands of other fans) if he turns out to be trash, one guy say's thats ignorant statement, another guy brings up kp's votes, i don't know what im talking about.

You guys are pretty much trolling because i never said i didn't like frank, never sided with the rookies or the article.

I don't write ignorant sht, just remember, i was the first to praise woodson when he took over, and the first to say he was done, first to call out fisher and put him on the hot seat, was on board with phil and one of the first to say he's not going to make it, and i was never on board with trading melo this off season. lOOK AT HOW IT ALL TURNS OUT..

certain sht you can see early, and some have accused me of been negative, but i hardly ever come back and say i told you this sht was going to happen. Some of you just take longer to realize the inevitable.

But just so you know..FRANK IS MY GUY RIGHT NOW, he' a knick, I'm hoping he's top 3 in his class. If he's not, heads will roll

So glad you put it right as to who was some of the firsts!!!!

knicks1248 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:either other rookies could care less, or he's not that good,

Arguably, one of the most ignorant conclusions you could have reached.

Already got shot down by folks here who concluded, quite logically, that not having seen Frank play in college or in the SL just might have hurt his chances in this survey.

But hey...don't let logic interfere with your position...right?

Oh...by the way, are the fans of ALL the teams which picked ahead of Dallas apoplectic over this survey? Everybody had a chance to pick Smith, one of the older players chosen in the lottery, I think, and about 2 years older than our guy. Are they up in arms over THEIR team not choosing him, since he seems to be a lock for ROY?

Might want to give Frenchie some time...no?

basically you called yourself ignorant by saying what I said in different words.

I already said other rookies have little to no knowledge of who he really is, neither do we, so wtf are you talking about?

In fact, we really don't know what any of the rookies will amount to

"or he's not that good." Not ignorant enough to make this statement YOU made though, am I.

Nothing I said puts me on your level, thankfully.

Nalod completely shot you down with the KP vote. The vote is meaningless, and considering Frenchie did not play in SL or at an American college, the vote becomes ridiculous as far as he is concerned.

Either you were trying to be provocative, or you have no idea of how to reason. Which one was it, bro.

He has possibly half the board(random measurement) trying to figure that out when he post. lol

Look, berman wrote the article, i posted the article because im sure we are all hoping frank turns out great.

Now because i said i would be livid (like thousands of other fans) if he turns out to be trash, one guy say's thats ignorant statement, another guy brings up kp's votes, i don't know what im talking about.

You guys are pretty much trolling because i never said i didn't like frank, never sided with the rookies or the article.

I don't write ignorant sht, just remember, i was the first to praise woodson when he took over, and the first to say he was done, first to call out fisher and put him on the hot seat, was on board with phil and one of the first to say he's not going to make it, and i was never on board with trading melo this off season. lOOK AT HOW IT ALL TURNS OUT..

certain sht you can see early, and some have accused me of been negative, but i hardly ever come back and say i told you this sht was going to happen. Some of you just take longer to realize the inevitable.

But just so you know..FRANK IS MY GUY RIGHT NOW, he' a knick, I'm hoping he's top 3 in his class. If he's not, heads will roll

I will be happy if Frank is a reliable two way player. Thats the minimum for me. We're setting ourselves up for disappointment if Frank has to become a star to justify the pick.

newyorknewyork wrote:

Welpee wrote:

fitzfarm wrote:

Nalod wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

nykshaknbake wrote:

nixluva wrote:So now we should suddenly assume our Scouts and Front Office can't judge talent? After drafting KP and Willy they just fell alseep this last draft? Kid was playing meaningful games in a Pro League. Clearly he can play. We won't know just how good until he plays and fully develops but we know he can play!!!

Our track record over the last decade suggests that our FO can't judge talent

That would've been true no matter who they picked, including Smith.

I think Smith would have been called the steal of the draft no matter who took him. But it would have been interesting. Is he considered the nextSteve Francis if the Knicks take him?

Smith would have been a great pick for knicks. It demonstrates a bit of restrain for us to have drafted as we did. Ntilikina build is at just turned 19 is compelling. The kid is not a Dante Exum/Dennis Schroeder type. he is going to be thicker. Fans hopefully will be patient with him.

I imagine frank will be the Greek freak of pg's long arms,still growing frame,a sharp shooter,a proven winner,makes his teammates better,a natural born leader, wills his teams to victory.

I thank the heavens we didn't draft the human highlight reel fools gold in Dennis smith jr. The guy is like Steve franchise, he knows how to fill a stat sheet, 1. he dose not make his teammates better, 2.not a natural born leader,3.takes plays off on defense,4.a questionable injury history.

One thing I will be thanking Phil for is building a great young core with KP,Willy,Frank.

Drafted DSJ would have been same old knicks before Phil.

I don't think people realize just how good frank is, he is a sharp shooting,lock down defender,with superior size for his position. Don't be surprised if he becomes hyped by the NBA after the first half like they did for KP

I have no idea how good Frank will be, but I'm predicting Smith Jr. will be an OJ Mayo-type NBA player. Will put up good numbers but won't impact winning. I'll eat crow if he's the next Jordan but if Smith was such a sure thing why did so many pass on him? It's easy to explain why GMs passed on a young euro like Frank who they have not seen much of. But these guys have known about Smith and observed him extensively since high school.

Smith showed good PG skills and command during the summer league. We will see if he is just a stat producer or a guy that runs his team effectively. But I will admit I liked what I saw of him as a PG during the summer league. But you are 100% correct in the observation of how so many teams were willing to pass on him. Lakers chose Ball, Boston chose Tatum, Suns chose Jackson, Sac chose Fox. Magic chose Isaac, Chi chose Markkennen. But *only* the Knicks have been the highlighted as the team that passed on Smith. And have taken a lot of shots during the summer league as THE team that passed on Smith. So out of the AAU circuit all these teams were willing to take other AAU prospects over him. But the Knicks are the suckers for picking the one(out of 2, Marrkkenn) non AAU prospects over him.

I agree 1000%. Just please add to this rant that he did not provide his medical records to the Knicks for review.

People are complaining that the Knicks didn't draft the guy who blew out his ACL and WOULDN'T let teams look at his medical records.

GustavBahler wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:either other rookies could care less, or he's not that good,

Arguably, one of the most ignorant conclusions you could have reached.

Already got shot down by folks here who concluded, quite logically, that not having seen Frank play in college or in the SL just might have hurt his chances in this survey.

But hey...don't let logic interfere with your position...right?

Oh...by the way, are the fans of ALL the teams which picked ahead of Dallas apoplectic over this survey? Everybody had a chance to pick Smith, one of the older players chosen in the lottery, I think, and about 2 years older than our guy. Are they up in arms over THEIR team not choosing him, since he seems to be a lock for ROY?

Might want to give Frenchie some time...no?

basically you called yourself ignorant by saying what I said in different words.

I already said other rookies have little to no knowledge of who he really is, neither do we, so wtf are you talking about?

In fact, we really don't know what any of the rookies will amount to

"or he's not that good." Not ignorant enough to make this statement YOU made though, am I.

Nothing I said puts me on your level, thankfully.

Nalod completely shot you down with the KP vote. The vote is meaningless, and considering Frenchie did not play in SL or at an American college, the vote becomes ridiculous as far as he is concerned.

Either you were trying to be provocative, or you have no idea of how to reason. Which one was it, bro.

He has possibly half the board(random measurement) trying to figure that out when he post. lol

Look, berman wrote the article, i posted the article because im sure we are all hoping frank turns out great.

Now because i said i would be livid (like thousands of other fans) if he turns out to be trash, one guy say's thats ignorant statement, another guy brings up kp's votes, i don't know what im talking about.

You guys are pretty much trolling because i never said i didn't like frank, never sided with the rookies or the article.

I don't write ignorant sht, just remember, i was the first to praise woodson when he took over, and the first to say he was done, first to call out fisher and put him on the hot seat, was on board with phil and one of the first to say he's not going to make it, and i was never on board with trading melo this off season. lOOK AT HOW IT ALL TURNS OUT..

certain sht you can see early, and some have accused me of been negative, but i hardly ever come back and say i told you this sht was going to happen. Some of you just take longer to realize the inevitable.

But just so you know..FRANK IS MY GUY RIGHT NOW, he' a knick, I'm hoping he's top 3 in his class. If he's not, heads will roll

I will be happy if Frank is a reliable two way player. Thats the minimum for me. We're setting ourselves up for disappointment if Frank has to become a star to justify the pick.

Its a bad look if Dennis Smith jr. becomes a 5 time All Star

SupremeCommander wrote:

fitzfarm wrote:

Nalod wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

nykshaknbake wrote:

nixluva wrote:So now we should suddenly assume our Scouts and Front Office can't judge talent? After drafting KP and Willy they just fell alseep this last draft? Kid was playing meaningful games in a Pro League. Clearly he can play. We won't know just how good until he plays and fully develops but we know he can play!!!

Our track record over the last decade suggests that our FO can't judge talent

That would've been true no matter who they picked, including Smith.

I think Smith would have been called the steal of the draft no matter who took him. But it would have been interesting. Is he considered the nextSteve Francis if the Knicks take him?

Smith would have been a great pick for knicks. It demonstrates a bit of restrain for us to have drafted as we did. Ntilikina build is at just turned 19 is compelling. The kid is not a Dante Exum/Dennis Schroeder type. he is going to be thicker. Fans hopefully will be patient with him.

I imagine frank will be the Greek freak of pg's long arms,still growing frame,a sharp shooter,a proven winner,makes his teammates better,a natural born leader, wills his teams to victory.

I thank the heavens we didn't draft the human highlight reel fools gold in Dennis smith jr. The guy is like Steve franchise, he knows how to fill a stat sheet, 1. he dose not make his teammates better, 2.not a natural born leader,3.takes plays off on defense,4.a questionable injury history.

One thing I will be thanking Phil for is building a great young core with KP,Willy,Frank.

Drafted DSJ would have been same old knicks before Phil.

I don't think people realize just how good frank is, he is a sharp shooting,lock down defender,with superior size for his position. Don't be surprised if he becomes hyped by the NBA after the first half like they did for KP

I don't look at this as a either Frank or Dennis thing. I wanted Donovan Mitchell. I think there are other guys that got drafted after Frank who will be in the league for a long time. As I said pre-draft, if the Knicks went with Frank I will defer to the scouts. But I have no idea if Frank is a good payer or not. I'm going off of articles and youtube highlights. I don't think anyone's opinion on Frank here means all that much because well they haven't actually seen him in a full game

Jmpasq wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:either other rookies could care less, or he's not that good,

Arguably, one of the most ignorant conclusions you could have reached.

Already got shot down by folks here who concluded, quite logically, that not having seen Frank play in college or in the SL just might have hurt his chances in this survey.

But hey...don't let logic interfere with your position...right?

Oh...by the way, are the fans of ALL the teams which picked ahead of Dallas apoplectic over this survey? Everybody had a chance to pick Smith, one of the older players chosen in the lottery, I think, and about 2 years older than our guy. Are they up in arms over THEIR team not choosing him, since he seems to be a lock for ROY?

Might want to give Frenchie some time...no?

basically you called yourself ignorant by saying what I said in different words.

I already said other rookies have little to no knowledge of who he really is, neither do we, so wtf are you talking about?

In fact, we really don't know what any of the rookies will amount to

"or he's not that good." Not ignorant enough to make this statement YOU made though, am I.

Nothing I said puts me on your level, thankfully.

Nalod completely shot you down with the KP vote. The vote is meaningless, and considering Frenchie did not play in SL or at an American college, the vote becomes ridiculous as far as he is concerned.

Either you were trying to be provocative, or you have no idea of how to reason. Which one was it, bro.

He has possibly half the board(random measurement) trying to figure that out when he post. lol

Look, berman wrote the article, i posted the article because im sure we are all hoping frank turns out great.

Now because i said i would be livid (like thousands of other fans) if he turns out to be trash, one guy say's thats ignorant statement, another guy brings up kp's votes, i don't know what im talking about.

You guys are pretty much trolling because i never said i didn't like frank, never sided with the rookies or the article.

I don't write ignorant sht, just remember, i was the first to praise woodson when he took over, and the first to say he was done, first to call out fisher and put him on the hot seat, was on board with phil and one of the first to say he's not going to make it, and i was never on board with trading melo this off season. lOOK AT HOW IT ALL TURNS OUT..

certain sht you can see early, and some have accused me of been negative, but i hardly ever come back and say i told you this sht was going to happen. Some of you just take longer to realize the inevitable.

But just so you know..FRANK IS MY GUY RIGHT NOW, he' a knick, I'm hoping he's top 3 in his class. If he's not, heads will roll

I will be happy if Frank is a reliable two way player. Thats the minimum for me. We're setting ourselves up for disappointment if Frank has to become a star to justify the pick.

Its a bad look if Dennis Smith jr. becomes a 5 time All Star

Nothing we can do about that except curse Phil's name from time to time, if that happens. Its not on Frank, its on Jackson. Im not going to make Dennis Smith the bar, nothing good will come of that.

If Frank can show he was worthy of an 8 pick, I'll take it. Not much choice.

Jmpasq wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:either other rookies could care less, or he's not that good,

Arguably, one of the most ignorant conclusions you could have reached.

Already got shot down by folks here who concluded, quite logically, that not having seen Frank play in college or in the SL just might have hurt his chances in this survey.

But hey...don't let logic interfere with your position...right?

Oh...by the way, are the fans of ALL the teams which picked ahead of Dallas apoplectic over this survey? Everybody had a chance to pick Smith, one of the older players chosen in the lottery, I think, and about 2 years older than our guy. Are they up in arms over THEIR team not choosing him, since he seems to be a lock for ROY?

Might want to give Frenchie some time...no?

basically you called yourself ignorant by saying what I said in different words.

I already said other rookies have little to no knowledge of who he really is, neither do we, so wtf are you talking about?

In fact, we really don't know what any of the rookies will amount to

"or he's not that good." Not ignorant enough to make this statement YOU made though, am I.

Nothing I said puts me on your level, thankfully.

Nalod completely shot you down with the KP vote. The vote is meaningless, and considering Frenchie did not play in SL or at an American college, the vote becomes ridiculous as far as he is concerned.

Either you were trying to be provocative, or you have no idea of how to reason. Which one was it, bro.

He has possibly half the board(random measurement) trying to figure that out when he post. lol

Look, berman wrote the article, i posted the article because im sure we are all hoping frank turns out great.

Now because i said i would be livid (like thousands of other fans) if he turns out to be trash, one guy say's thats ignorant statement, another guy brings up kp's votes, i don't know what im talking about.

You guys are pretty much trolling because i never said i didn't like frank, never sided with the rookies or the article.

I don't write ignorant sht, just remember, i was the first to praise woodson when he took over, and the first to say he was done, first to call out fisher and put him on the hot seat, was on board with phil and one of the first to say he's not going to make it, and i was never on board with trading melo this off season. lOOK AT HOW IT ALL TURNS OUT..

certain sht you can see early, and some have accused me of been negative, but i hardly ever come back and say i told you this sht was going to happen. Some of you just take longer to realize the inevitable.

But just so you know..FRANK IS MY GUY RIGHT NOW, he' a knick, I'm hoping he's top 3 in his class. If he's not, heads will roll

I will be happy if Frank is a reliable two way player. Thats the minimum for me. We're setting ourselves up for disappointment if Frank has to become a star to justify the pick.

Its a bad look if Dennis Smith jr. becomes a 5 time All Star

Let's be clear, it's a "bad look" for those who engage in second guessing and faux outrage in the Internet bubble.

knicks1248 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:either other rookies could care less, or he's not that good,

Arguably, one of the most ignorant conclusions you could have reached.

Already got shot down by folks here who concluded, quite logically, that not having seen Frank play in college or in the SL just might have hurt his chances in this survey.

But hey...don't let logic interfere with your position...right?

Oh...by the way, are the fans of ALL the teams which picked ahead of Dallas apoplectic over this survey? Everybody had a chance to pick Smith, one of the older players chosen in the lottery, I think, and about 2 years older than our guy. Are they up in arms over THEIR team not choosing him, since he seems to be a lock for ROY?

Might want to give Frenchie some time...no?

basically you called yourself ignorant by saying what I said in different words.

I already said other rookies have little to no knowledge of who he really is, neither do we, so wtf are you talking about?

In fact, we really don't know what any of the rookies will amount to

"or he's not that good." Not ignorant enough to make this statement YOU made though, am I.

Nothing I said puts me on your level, thankfully.

Nalod completely shot you down with the KP vote. The vote is meaningless, and considering Frenchie did not play in SL or at an American college, the vote becomes ridiculous as far as he is concerned.

Either you were trying to be provocative, or you have no idea of how to reason. Which one was it, bro.

He has possibly half the board(random measurement) trying to figure that out when he post. lol

Look, berman wrote the article, i posted the article because im sure we are all hoping frank turns out great.

Now because i said i would be livid (like thousands of other fans) if he turns out to be trash, one guy say's thats ignorant statement, another guy brings up kp's votes, i don't know what im talking about.

You guys are pretty much trolling because i never said i didn't like frank, never sided with the rookies or the article.

I don't write ignorant sht, just remember, i was the first to praise woodson when he took over, and the first to say he was done, first to call out fisher and put him on the hot seat, was on board with phil and one of the first to say he's not going to make it, and i was never on board with trading melo this off season. lOOK AT HOW IT ALL TURNS OUT..

certain sht you can see early, and some have accused me of been negative, but i hardly ever come back and say i told you this sht was going to happen. Some of you just take longer to realize the inevitable.

But just so you know..FRANK IS MY GUY RIGHT NOW, he' a knick, I'm hoping he's top 3 in his class. If he's not, heads will roll

What are things as a prospect do you like about Frank? What are the things as a prospect do you not like?

GustavBahler wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:either other rookies could care less, or he's not that good,

Arguably, one of the most ignorant conclusions you could have reached.

Already got shot down by folks here who concluded, quite logically, that not having seen Frank play in college or in the SL just might have hurt his chances in this survey.

But hey...don't let logic interfere with your position...right?

Oh...by the way, are the fans of ALL the teams which picked ahead of Dallas apoplectic over this survey? Everybody had a chance to pick Smith, one of the older players chosen in the lottery, I think, and about 2 years older than our guy. Are they up in arms over THEIR team not choosing him, since he seems to be a lock for ROY?

Might want to give Frenchie some time...no?

basically you called yourself ignorant by saying what I said in different words.

I already said other rookies have little to no knowledge of who he really is, neither do we, so wtf are you talking about?

In fact, we really don't know what any of the rookies will amount to

"or he's not that good." Not ignorant enough to make this statement YOU made though, am I.

Nothing I said puts me on your level, thankfully.

Nalod completely shot you down with the KP vote. The vote is meaningless, and considering Frenchie did not play in SL or at an American college, the vote becomes ridiculous as far as he is concerned.

Either you were trying to be provocative, or you have no idea of how to reason. Which one was it, bro.

He has possibly half the board(random measurement) trying to figure that out when he post. lol

Look, berman wrote the article, i posted the article because im sure we are all hoping frank turns out great.

Now because i said i would be livid (like thousands of other fans) if he turns out to be trash, one guy say's thats ignorant statement, another guy brings up kp's votes, i don't know what im talking about.

You guys are pretty much trolling because i never said i didn't like frank, never sided with the rookies or the article.

I don't write ignorant sht, just remember, i was the first to praise woodson when he took over, and the first to say he was done, first to call out fisher and put him on the hot seat, was on board with phil and one of the first to say he's not going to make it, and i was never on board with trading melo this off season. lOOK AT HOW IT ALL TURNS OUT..

certain sht you can see early, and some have accused me of been negative, but i hardly ever come back and say i told you this sht was going to happen. Some of you just take longer to realize the inevitable.

But just so you know..FRANK IS MY GUY RIGHT NOW, he' a knick, I'm hoping he's top 3 in his class. If he's not, heads will roll

I will be happy if Frank is a reliable two way player. Thats the minimum for me. We're setting ourselves up for disappointment if Frank has to become a star to justify the pick.

Its a bad look if Dennis Smith jr. becomes a 5 time All Star

Let's be clear, it's a "bad look" for those who engage in second guessing and faux outrage in the Internet bubble.

The internet bubble in which you are more than a willing participant.

That's obvious.

Doesn't mean I endorse typical ridiculous behaviors.

Nalod wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

fitzfarm wrote:

Nalod wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

nykshaknbake wrote:

nixluva wrote:So now we should suddenly assume our Scouts and Front Office can't judge talent? After drafting KP and Willy they just fell alseep this last draft? Kid was playing meaningful games in a Pro League. Clearly he can play. We won't know just how good until he plays and fully develops but we know he can play!!!

Our track record over the last decade suggests that our FO can't judge talent

That would've been true no matter who they picked, including Smith.

I think Smith would have been called the steal of the draft no matter who took him. But it would have been interesting. Is he considered the nextSteve Francis if the Knicks take him?

Smith would have been a great pick for knicks. It demonstrates a bit of restrain for us to have drafted as we did. Ntilikina build is at just turned 19 is compelling. The kid is not a Dante Exum/Dennis Schroeder type. he is going to be thicker. Fans hopefully will be patient with him.

I imagine frank will be the Greek freak of pg's long arms,still growing frame,a sharp shooter,a proven winner,makes his teammates better,a natural born leader, wills his teams to victory.

I thank the heavens we didn't draft the human highlight reel fools gold in Dennis smith jr. The guy is like Steve franchise, he knows how to fill a stat sheet, 1. he dose not make his teammates better, 2.not a natural born leader,3.takes plays off on defense,4.a questionable injury history.

One thing I will be thanking Phil for is building a great young core with KP,Willy,Frank.

Drafted DSJ would have been same old knicks before Phil.

I don't think people realize just how good frank is, he is a sharp shooting,lock down defender,with superior size for his position. Don't be surprised if he becomes hyped by the NBA after the first half like they did for KP

Im not just not sure he is a PG. He looks like an above average wing for sure. The problem is his value is heavily tied to his ability to play PG. If you have someone with a 7'0 wingspan at PG it allows you so much flexibility with your roster. You can now play an undersized scoring 2 guard as a 6th man and not lose much because Frank can guard 2's and even 3's. A lot of people keep saying terrific instincts but im not sure where there getting that from in these small clips. Personally I see sub-par ball handling and lack of speed for the position and some telegraphed lazy passes, albeit very small sample size. Its not like Porzingis where there were 10-15 whole games to watch on youtube. Even compare his ball handling and speed to Donovan Mitchell who has similar length, he is way behind Donovan Mitchell. "If" he can tighten up his handle and learn to create off the dribble he then becomes insanely valuable. If not he becomes a well skilled wing which is fine but not to the level of a pg with that length

Ntilinka is far from a finished product. He has things to work on as do all rookies, but we have him in our microscope. At his age one can also see the enormous potential.

He functioned very well in a league with every team better than any Div I NCAA team. I doubt he will be a break out star.
Take 5 years of hindsight to really evaluate a draft. Clock has not yet started.

you can almost count on your fingers the amount of players in this league that has been on the same team for 5 yrs..sht Cleveland has now traded all 3 of their 1st (overall) round picks in the course of 6 yrs.

more importantly how good do you feel about the knicks current coaching staff at developing this kid into a really good player...(I have no proof that jH, and RAmbi can do that, or ever has). If kp comes to camp looking much improve, he'll owe none of it to the knicks coaching staff.