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Isn't Melo to Blazers a fair deal for both sides?
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Knickoftime
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7/20/2017  8:59 PM
Sinix wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
Nalod wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
GoNyGoNyGo wrote:If he does not accept the trade to Portland, then bench him. Marbury him. Simple.

That'll help change the culture and the fans, media and other players perception of the Knicks organization. The media would have a field day with it if we benched him cause we were mad that he actually used the NTC wed gave him and other players definitely wouldn't be looking our way when they're free agents.


I don't think you can punish a player for exercising a right bargained in their contract like his NTC. I think the Knicks would have troubled with the league office and the players union if they did something like that.


For benching him? Who said its a punishment? Knicks want to develop the kids. Melo has a penchant for not passing the ball.
Its up to the coach. There is nothing that says a player has to play?
Cav's don't have to play Lebron. coach can say your not playing today. Or ever.

I was hoping they would try it while Phil was still here because I thought Silver might step in and remove Phil. (I thought Phil had a lifetime appointment). Melo is the best player on the Knicks if he returns. He also is vp of the players' union. I don't think it would work out for the KNicks if they did this. Also, I think it would seem obvious that it was an attempt to void the ntc that he was given by the club. The Knicks could lower his minutes, change his role but to just bench him because he would not accept a trade to a destination the Knicks wanted I would think would be interpeted as unethical by the league. Will see.

That would set a horrible precedent that players with NTC can dictate front office moves and act in insubordination without repercussion.

Huh?

You're responding to a conversation in which nobody has raised the issue of insubordination. The topic is what would the NBA do (if anything) if the Knicks benched a healthy Melo.

How is Melo insubordinate in the scenario you responded to?

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7/20/2017  9:32 PM
Knickoftime wrote:
Sinix wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
Nalod wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
GoNyGoNyGo wrote:If he does not accept the trade to Portland, then bench him. Marbury him. Simple.

That'll help change the culture and the fans, media and other players perception of the Knicks organization. The media would have a field day with it if we benched him cause we were mad that he actually used the NTC wed gave him and other players definitely wouldn't be looking our way when they're free agents.


I don't think you can punish a player for exercising a right bargained in their contract like his NTC. I think the Knicks would have troubled with the league office and the players union if they did something like that.


For benching him? Who said its a punishment? Knicks want to develop the kids. Melo has a penchant for not passing the ball.
Its up to the coach. There is nothing that says a player has to play?
Cav's don't have to play Lebron. coach can say your not playing today. Or ever.

I was hoping they would try it while Phil was still here because I thought Silver might step in and remove Phil. (I thought Phil had a lifetime appointment). Melo is the best player on the Knicks if he returns. He also is vp of the players' union. I don't think it would work out for the KNicks if they did this. Also, I think it would seem obvious that it was an attempt to void the ntc that he was given by the club. The Knicks could lower his minutes, change his role but to just bench him because he would not accept a trade to a destination the Knicks wanted I would think would be interpeted as unethical by the league. Will see.

That would set a horrible precedent that players with NTC can dictate front office moves and act in insubordination without repercussion.

Huh?

You're responding to a conversation in which nobody has raised the issue of insubordination. The topic is what would the NBA do (if anything) if the Knicks benched a healthy Melo.

How is Melo insubordinate in the scenario you responded to?

The dude just makes stuff up. Throws too much crap out there to respond to every unsubstantiated statement he puts out there.
knickinthehead
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7/20/2017  9:55 PM
I honestly don't think Melo is getting traded.
Sinix
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7/21/2017  6:47 AM    LAST EDITED: 7/21/2017  6:50 AM
Knickoftime wrote:
Sinix wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
Nalod wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
GoNyGoNyGo wrote:If he does not accept the trade to Portland, then bench him. Marbury him. Simple.

That'll help change the culture and the fans, media and other players perception of the Knicks organization. The media would have a field day with it if we benched him cause we were mad that he actually used the NTC wed gave him and other players definitely wouldn't be looking our way when they're free agents.


I don't think you can punish a player for exercising a right bargained in their contract like his NTC. I think the Knicks would have troubled with the league office and the players union if they did something like that.


For benching him? Who said its a punishment? Knicks want to develop the kids. Melo has a penchant for not passing the ball.
Its up to the coach. There is nothing that says a player has to play?
Cav's don't have to play Lebron. coach can say your not playing today. Or ever.

I was hoping they would try it while Phil was still here because I thought Silver might step in and remove Phil. (I thought Phil had a lifetime appointment). Melo is the best player on the Knicks if he returns. He also is vp of the players' union. I don't think it would work out for the KNicks if they did this. Also, I think it would seem obvious that it was an attempt to void the ntc that he was given by the club. The Knicks could lower his minutes, change his role but to just bench him because he would not accept a trade to a destination the Knicks wanted I would think would be interpeted as unethical by the league. Will see.

That would set a horrible precedent that players with NTC can dictate front office moves and act in insubordination without repercussion.

Huh?

You're responding to a conversation in which nobody has raised the issue of insubordination. The topic is what would the NBA do (if anything) if the Knicks benched a healthy Melo.

How is Melo insubordinate in the scenario you responded to?

How about every which way possible. You can start by chewing on this:

https://fansided.com/2017/06/30/nba-rumors-carmelo-yells-at-porzingis-after-praise-of-triangle-offense/

When a player acts toxic like this, and you cannot bench him for fear that the NBA commissioner will come in and remove you from your job, what position does that put your franchise in?

Knickoftime
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7/21/2017  10:26 AM    LAST EDITED: 7/21/2017  10:50 AM
Sinix wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
Sinix wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
Nalod wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
GoNyGoNyGo wrote:If he does not accept the trade to Portland, then bench him. Marbury him. Simple.

That'll help change the culture and the fans, media and other players perception of the Knicks organization. The media would have a field day with it if we benched him cause we were mad that he actually used the NTC wed gave him and other players definitely wouldn't be looking our way when they're free agents.


I don't think you can punish a player for exercising a right bargained in their contract like his NTC. I think the Knicks would have troubled with the league office and the players union if they did something like that.


For benching him? Who said its a punishment? Knicks want to develop the kids. Melo has a penchant for not passing the ball.
Its up to the coach. There is nothing that says a player has to play?
Cav's don't have to play Lebron. coach can say your not playing today. Or ever.

I was hoping they would try it while Phil was still here because I thought Silver might step in and remove Phil. (I thought Phil had a lifetime appointment). Melo is the best player on the Knicks if he returns. He also is vp of the players' union. I don't think it would work out for the KNicks if they did this. Also, I think it would seem obvious that it was an attempt to void the ntc that he was given by the club. The Knicks could lower his minutes, change his role but to just bench him because he would not accept a trade to a destination the Knicks wanted I would think would be interpeted as unethical by the league. Will see.

That would set a horrible precedent that players with NTC can dictate front office moves and act in insubordination without repercussion.

Huh?

You're responding to a conversation in which nobody has raised the issue of insubordination. The topic is what would the NBA do (if anything) if the Knicks benched a healthy Melo.

How is Melo insubordinate in the scenario you responded to?

How about every which way possible. You can start by chewing on this:

https://fansided.com/2017/06/30/nba-rumors-carmelo-yells-at-porzingis-after-praise-of-triangle-offense/

When a player acts toxic like this, and you cannot bench him for fear that the NBA commissioner will come in and remove you from your job, what position does that put your franchise in?

The context of the conversation was assuming the Player's Union filed a grievance with the League. If it ever went to a hearing, I'd hope you'd advise the league to be better prepared to support that accusation than a link to a Fan-sided article.

You didn't even think to link straight to the original article it cites.

Not very lawyerly.

Isn't Melo to Blazers a fair deal for both sides?

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