GustavBahler wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:If this article is true, Mills is on the right track. I still would prefer that he was made president and someone else perform the GM duties, with a better track record. This change in direction would show that Mills has learned something since his last time as president. Pair him with a good GM, and the Knicks could go places.

http://nypost.com/2017/07/05/knicks-could-tank-to-land-this-likely-no-1-pick-in-18-nba-draft/

According to multiple sources who have spoken to members of the organization, Knicks acting president Steve Mills is all in for a youth movement, except at point guard, where they are attempting to find a veteran mentor for 18-year-old Frenchman Frank Ntilikina.

“The focus is on young players, but they still need some veteran presence,’’ said one team executive who has spoken to Knicks officials. “They’re waiting to see where there are good young players that would take shorter deals. The focus is definitely on building around young guys.’’

The timing isn’t great — four straight years out of the playoffs before contemplating a complete rebuild. But they are stuck in between, with a share of veterans, but not a roster good enough to do anything beyond an eighth seed at very best. Hence, the attempt to trade Carmelo Anthony, 33, even after Phil Jackson’s ouster.

Dormant in free agency across the first four days, Mills even let their 29-year-old backup shooting guard Justin Holiday skip away on a two-year, $9 million pact. The Knicks didn’t have to eat 2017 cap space to re-sign him because of the Bird exception. But Mills didn’t want Holiday stealing away 2018 space.

Mills is in Orlando, looking at possibly clearing the decks for 2018 and 2019 free agency, according to sources.

If free agency dries up for the Knicks (they still are in the forward mix for Phoenix’s Alan Williams and San Antonio’s Jonathan Simmons, a pair of restricted free agents), a league source said they would look at a trade to fill in their cap space.

The Knicks aren’t handing out lavish multi-year deals and reportedly don’t want to take on any long-term contracts, such as Ryan Anderson’s (three years, $60 million left) in an Anthony trade with the Rockets. Therefore, a deal with Houston would require three to four teams.

“If the Knicks are going to win 35 games next season, might as well do it with young players, fill the roster out with young guys,’’ said one NBA source who has talked to the Knicks.

Unless its a no-brainer, the Knicks shouldn't be gearing for any FA class until they are able to start winning with the draft picks and viewed as an up and coming team by the FA market.

I wonder what they mean by fill in their space with a trade. Does that mean eat a contract for a pick or 2?

Im of the same mind about the Knicks using their recent draft picks to build a team worth going to. They cant do that if the roster has too many older vets taking up roster space. If it is true that Mills is looking for a veteran PG, it shows that its not a full blown tank which Im against. Im for trying to unload the albatross contracts like Noah and Melo, but not for more long term crapola.

Not sure what he meant about filling cap space, maybe a deal that uses all their remaining cap space for this upcoming season.

They passed on plenty of veteran point guards. They want a veteran off the scrap heap that won't cost much. Like what Pablo Prigioni was for us. No one they get at this point will win games on that level.

I don't see many one year deals that teams are looking to unload. Most of the unwanted contracts are 2-3 years.

newyorknewyork wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:If this article is true, Mills is on the right track. I still would prefer that he was made president and someone else perform the GM duties, with a better track record. This change in direction would show that Mills has learned something since his last time as president. Pair him with a good GM, and the Knicks could go places.

http://nypost.com/2017/07/05/knicks-could-tank-to-land-this-likely-no-1-pick-in-18-nba-draft/

According to multiple sources who have spoken to members of the organization, Knicks acting president Steve Mills is all in for a youth movement, except at point guard, where they are attempting to find a veteran mentor for 18-year-old Frenchman Frank Ntilikina.

“The focus is on young players, but they still need some veteran presence,’’ said one team executive who has spoken to Knicks officials. “They’re waiting to see where there are good young players that would take shorter deals. The focus is definitely on building around young guys.’’

The timing isn’t great — four straight years out of the playoffs before contemplating a complete rebuild. But they are stuck in between, with a share of veterans, but not a roster good enough to do anything beyond an eighth seed at very best. Hence, the attempt to trade Carmelo Anthony, 33, even after Phil Jackson’s ouster.

Dormant in free agency across the first four days, Mills even let their 29-year-old backup shooting guard Justin Holiday skip away on a two-year, $9 million pact. The Knicks didn’t have to eat 2017 cap space to re-sign him because of the Bird exception. But Mills didn’t want Holiday stealing away 2018 space.

Mills is in Orlando, looking at possibly clearing the decks for 2018 and 2019 free agency, according to sources.

If free agency dries up for the Knicks (they still are in the forward mix for Phoenix’s Alan Williams and San Antonio’s Jonathan Simmons, a pair of restricted free agents), a league source said they would look at a trade to fill in their cap space.

The Knicks aren’t handing out lavish multi-year deals and reportedly don’t want to take on any long-term contracts, such as Ryan Anderson’s (three years, $60 million left) in an Anthony trade with the Rockets. Therefore, a deal with Houston would require three to four teams.

“If the Knicks are going to win 35 games next season, might as well do it with young players, fill the roster out with young guys,’’ said one NBA source who has talked to the Knicks.

Unless its a no-brainer, the Knicks shouldn't be gearing for any FA class until they are able to start winning with the draft picks and viewed as an up and coming team by the FA market.

I wonder what they mean by fill in their space with a trade. Does that mean eat a contract for a pick or 2?

Im of the same mind about the Knicks using their recent draft picks to build a team worth going to. They cant do that if the roster has too many older vets taking up roster space. If it is true that Mills is looking for a veteran PG, it shows that its not a full blown tank which Im against. Im for trying to unload the albatross contracts like Noah and Melo, but not for more long term crapola.

Not sure what he meant about filling cap space, maybe a deal that uses all their remaining cap space for this upcoming season.

They passed on plenty of veteran point guards. They want a veteran off the scrap heap that won't cost much. Like what Pablo Prigioni was for us. No one they get at this point will win games on that level.

I don't see many one year deals that teams are looking to unload. Most of the unwanted contracts are 2-3 years.

A pass first PG who can still get up and down the court will win more games for the Knicks than Rose. Hopefully younger than Pablo.

David Griffin appeared ready to make significant changes to the New York Knicks' front office had he been hired as the team's new general manager.

Prior to removing himself from consideration for the position, Griffin requested that the Knicks dismiss Allan Houston from his role as assistant general manager, a source told Stefan Bondy of the New York Daily News. Griffin would then work to hire his own front-office staff from the Cavaliers, including Cleveland's former vice president of basketball operations, Trent Redden.

Houston spent nine seasons as a player with the Knicks before being hired as a special assistant in 2008. The 46-year-old quickly moved up the ranks, and it's believed he's being groomed as the organization's next general manager, according to Bondy.

After reportedly progressing toward contract negotiations this weekend, Griffin quickly removed from the running after the Knicks refused to give him autonomy over basketball-related decisions.

The Cavaliers reached The Finals in all three seasons Griffin served as the team's general manager, with Cleveland capturing the franchise's first title during the 2015-16 season.

We are fckng screwed..Im sure griffen wanted both allan and mills kick to the curb.