anrst wrote:neither of these 3 will be the right pick because all of them will not be able to develop inside our clustrfck team culture/organization, lack of leadership, coherent planning, etc.

This is such an exaggeration. The Knicks Front Office and Coaching Staff are all in sync!!! There is no dysfunction! This stuff with Melo, KP, Rambis and Phil is going to be rectified. KP wants to be here and the only real issue is Melo!

If Melo stays he needs to buy in and do what the team wants him to do! PERIOD! If he doesn't want to do buy in then he should go! EVERYONE ELSE is going in the same direction but Melo.

nixluva wrote:

anrst wrote:neither of these 3 will be the right pick because all of them will not be able to develop inside our clustrfck team culture/organization, lack of leadership, coherent planning, etc.

This is such an exaggeration. The Knicks Front Office and Coaching Staff are all in sync!!! There is no dysfunction! This stuff with Melo, KP, Rambis and Phil is going to be rectified. KP wants to be here and the only real issue is Melo!

If Melo stays he needs to buy in and do what the team wants him to do! PERIOD! If he doesn't want to do buy in then he should go! EVERYONE ELSE is going in the same direction but Melo.

Asked if it was just the offense, Porzingis said: “From top to bottom, everything. A lot of stuff that’s not clear. … [The frustration] is pretty high.

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https://twitter.com/IanBegley/status/853039574855016448

Hornacek stood in front of reporters and fielded questions about the return of Jackson's beloved attack. He said he still wants the Knicks to play with pace but, if quick shots aren't there, to settle into the offense. He was then asked whether players' fit in the triangle will indeed determine if they're eventually brought back.

Players are privately fuming that they want no part of the organization’s summer slate of triangle offense regimen at the team’s suburban New York practice facility, league sources told The Vertical. In reality, there’s an open rebellion to the triangle – for the offense itself, and by extension, the discord and dysfunction that its implementation has burdened upon everyone.

It isn’t only Jackson’s laborious organizational emails about the triangle – demands of emphasis on schooling players on the reverse pivot move, or the proper passing techniques – but his increasing insistence on the coaching staff and players that the obsolete offense become fully functional for the 2017-18 season.

Phil Jackson’s management style hasn’t helped the Knicks. (AP)View photos
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Inside and outside the Knicks, people see a franchise in disrepair: Jackson’s open war with Anthony, the failed trade for Derrick Rose and the $72 million contract albatross of a broken-down Joakim Noah. Players grumble of a support staff that is far more concerned about creating an illusion of hard work with management and ownership than facilitating winning, a media-relations staff that is suffocating and intrusive, and a management/coaching dynamic that’s made Hornacek look like a puppet.

Beyond moving Anthony out of town, Jackson sees the resolution of the franchise’s issues through the prism of an offense the coaches don’t want to teach and that the players don’t want to run.

“To Phil, the culture is the triangle,” a league source involved in the dynamic told The Vertical.

After his first season as Knicks coach, Hornacek is still trying to incorporate a system that is foreign to him, armed with a Jackson-installed assistant coach, Kurt Rambis, who is beyond unpopular with the players, league sources said. When players want coaching and teaching, they get yelling, sources said. Most wonder about Rambis’ allegiances, because after all, he’s Jackson’s guy, not Hornacek’s.

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nixluva wrote:

anrst wrote:neither of these 3 will be the right pick because all of them will not be able to develop inside our clustrfck team culture/organization, lack of leadership, coherent planning, etc.

This is such an exaggeration. The Knicks Front Office and Coaching Staff are all in sync!!! There is no dysfunction! This stuff with Melo, KP, Rambis and Phil is going to be rectified. KP wants to be here and the only real issue is Melo!

If Melo stays he needs to buy in and do what the team wants him to do! PERIOD! If he doesn't want to do buy in then he should go! EVERYONE ELSE is going in the same direction but Melo.

Asked if it was just the offense, Porzingis said: “From top to bottom, everything. A lot of stuff that’s not clear. … [The frustration] is pretty high.

http://nypost.com/2017/03/13/frustrated-kristaps-porzingis-unloads-on-knicks-confusion/

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/IanBegley/status/853039574855016448

Hornacek stood in front of reporters and fielded questions about the return of Jackson's beloved attack. He said he still wants the Knicks to play with pace but, if quick shots aren't there, to settle into the offense. He was then asked whether players' fit in the triangle will indeed determine if they're eventually brought back.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2695525-new-york-state-of-mind-where-knicks-carmelo-anthony-stand-post-trade-deadline

Players are privately fuming that they want no part of the organization’s summer slate of triangle offense regimen at the team’s suburban New York practice facility, league sources told The Vertical. In reality, there’s an open rebellion to the triangle – for the offense itself, and by extension, the discord and dysfunction that its implementation has burdened upon everyone.

It isn’t only Jackson’s laborious organizational emails about the triangle – demands of emphasis on schooling players on the reverse pivot move, or the proper passing techniques – but his increasing insistence on the coaching staff and players that the obsolete offense become fully functional for the 2017-18 season.

Phil Jackson’s management style hasn’t helped the Knicks. (AP)View photos
Phil Jackson’s management style hasn’t helped the Knicks. (AP)
More
Inside and outside the Knicks, people see a franchise in disrepair: Jackson’s open war with Anthony, the failed trade for Derrick Rose and the $72 million contract albatross of a broken-down Joakim Noah. Players grumble of a support staff that is far more concerned about creating an illusion of hard work with management and ownership than facilitating winning, a media-relations staff that is suffocating and intrusive, and a management/coaching dynamic that’s made Hornacek look like a puppet.

Beyond moving Anthony out of town, Jackson sees the resolution of the franchise’s issues through the prism of an offense the coaches don’t want to teach and that the players don’t want to run.

“To Phil, the culture is the triangle,” a league source involved in the dynamic told The Vertical.

After his first season as Knicks coach, Hornacek is still trying to incorporate a system that is foreign to him, armed with a Jackson-installed assistant coach, Kurt Rambis, who is beyond unpopular with the players, league sources said. When players want coaching and teaching, they get yelling, sources said. Most wonder about Rambis’ allegiances, because after all, he’s Jackson’s guy, not Hornacek’s.

https://sports.yahoo.com/news/kristaps-porzingis-unhappy-phil-jackson-knicks-015636997.html

KP is doing what he's supposed to be doing in preparing for next season. His being upset about the things that went on during the season doesn't mean it's a permanent problem. You want to live in the past which is your right but as of right now there is only ONE issue and that is what is Melo going to do. It's not KP cuz he's under contract and will be playing for the Knicks IN THE TRIANGLE. He didn't have a problem with the Triangle as Woj tried to imply.

So really where is all this dysfunction you wanna keep pushing??? I see Phil, Mills, Jeff, Rambis etc all working the draft. The roster will get a bunch of new talent and minus the RESISTANT SELFISH Vets from last year things will be on the right track for a change. Melo is the only one that needs to make a decision. Does he stay and buy in or leave!!!