tj23 wrote:

Welpee wrote:

tj23 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

tj23 wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

sidneydeane wrote:Definitely dont want jennings starting at any stage, he's just not good enough. D is terrible, has eratic shot taking and always shoots low percentages. He is good coming off the bench tho just pushing the pace and setting ppl up. Would be happy to go forward with rose but we cant risk a max on him, and i highly doubt phil would.

Agree on both points although Jennings d isn't bad. If Jennings was worth that much why didn't he command more than 1 year 5mm? 3 yrs 27 mm is more than reasonable. Also Rose is not a franchise player I'd rather pay him reasonable 17-18mm for 3-4 years but no way would I pay him like Conley

Jennings' D is absolutely awful. Any 2 man game against Jennings and Willy is destroying us. He is 100% lost off the ball allowing breakdowns.

Jennings as a knick has played good d in my opinion. He puts a lot of pressure on his man. Pretty sure he has been praised for his play on d either by Breen/Clyde or Hornacek.

No disrespect to Breen or Clyde, they are legends, but Breen has very limited knowledge and the game has clearly passed Clyde by or his eyes aren't what they used to be. They aren't insightful at all and it's been that way for a long time tbh.

There's a reason we have one of the worst defensive units in the league. But I'm not trying to generalize. I'll see if I can put together some video evidence to back up what I'm saying. But BJ is a guy if you watch closely is constantly making mistakes on the defensive end. More than most guys on the team, whether it's beat off the dribble, failing to pick up in transition, missing rotations, beat back door, etc.

Save your time with the video evidence. I can splice together video to make James Harden look like the defensive player of the year. Anybody can cherry pick video to prove any point they're trying to make.

And anybody can post any wild opinion on a message board with zero evidence. I'm not on a witch hunt for Jennings or something. Just trying to shed some light on his defensive shortcomings. He's not the only one struggling with simple defensive assignments. The only 3 players I've seen play sound defense on a consistent basis are Noah, Holiday, and Lance Thomas.

If this is your opinion that's fine, that's what a message board is all about. Just saying showing a couple plays on a video doesn't really prove anything.

Both are better defenders than I expected.

Our mistakes tend to be off rotations to shooters. We give up too many easy looks for three pointers.

tj23 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

tj23 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

tj23 wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

sidneydeane wrote:Definitely dont want jennings starting at any stage, he's just not good enough. D is terrible, has eratic shot taking and always shoots low percentages. He is good coming off the bench tho just pushing the pace and setting ppl up. Would be happy to go forward with rose but we cant risk a max on him, and i highly doubt phil would.

Agree on both points although Jennings d isn't bad. If Jennings was worth that much why didn't he command more than 1 year 5mm? 3 yrs 27 mm is more than reasonable. Also Rose is not a franchise player I'd rather pay him reasonable 17-18mm for 3-4 years but no way would I pay him like Conley

Jennings' D is absolutely awful. Any 2 man game against Jennings and Willy is destroying us. He is 100% lost off the ball allowing breakdowns.

Jennings as a knick has played good d in my opinion. He puts a lot of pressure on his man. Pretty sure he has been praised for his play on d either by Breen/Clyde or Hornacek.

No disrespect to Breen or Clyde, they are legends, but Breen has very limited knowledge and the game has clearly passed Clyde by or his eyes aren't what they used to be. They aren't insightful at all and it's been that way for a long time tbh.

There's a reason we have one of the worst defensive units in the league. But I'm not trying to generalize. I'll see if I can put together some video evidence to back up what I'm saying. But BJ is a guy if you watch closely is constantly making mistakes on the defensive end. More than most guys on the team, whether it's beat off the dribble, failing to pick up in transition, missing rotations, beat back door, etc.

Breen was a ref. I do the clock at work for some games and refs have to know the game. Clyde has been around the game forever. How does the game pass you by when you are doing games 4/7 nights a week. I would love video evidence proving my eyes wrong about Jennings. He is a pest and disruptive.

Maybe I should make a video on the ridiculously inaccurate things Breen and Clyde say. They know more than the average fan but that isn't saying much. But I get it. Not a popular opinion. I can already tell I've dug a hole for myself in this thread calling out our 2 favorite broadcasters. But it is what it is. I call it how I see it.

It's not about you calling out Breen and Clyde it's about you beiung wrong when you say he's awful. I've called out Clyde plenty of times for being annoying to listen to for me during games sometimes.

tj23 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

tj23 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

tj23 wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

sidneydeane wrote:Definitely dont want jennings starting at any stage, he's just not good enough. D is terrible, has eratic shot taking and always shoots low percentages. He is good coming off the bench tho just pushing the pace and setting ppl up. Would be happy to go forward with rose but we cant risk a max on him, and i highly doubt phil would.

Agree on both points although Jennings d isn't bad. If Jennings was worth that much why didn't he command more than 1 year 5mm? 3 yrs 27 mm is more than reasonable. Also Rose is not a franchise player I'd rather pay him reasonable 17-18mm for 3-4 years but no way would I pay him like Conley

Jennings' D is absolutely awful. Any 2 man game against Jennings and Willy is destroying us. He is 100% lost off the ball allowing breakdowns.

Jennings as a knick has played good d in my opinion. He puts a lot of pressure on his man. Pretty sure he has been praised for his play on d either by Breen/Clyde or Hornacek.

No disrespect to Breen or Clyde, they are legends, but Breen has very limited knowledge and the game has clearly passed Clyde by or his eyes aren't what they used to be. They aren't insightful at all and it's been that way for a long time tbh.

There's a reason we have one of the worst defensive units in the league. But I'm not trying to generalize. I'll see if I can put together some video evidence to back up what I'm saying. But BJ is a guy if you watch closely is constantly making mistakes on the defensive end. More than most guys on the team, whether it's beat off the dribble, failing to pick up in transition, missing rotations, beat back door, etc.

Breen was a ref. I do the clock at work for some games and refs have to know the game. Clyde has been around the game forever. How does the game pass you by when you are doing games 4/7 nights a week. I would love video evidence proving my eyes wrong about Jennings. He is a pest and disruptive.

Maybe I should make a video on the ridiculously inaccurate things Breen and Clyde say. They know more than the average fan but that isn't saying much. But I get it. Not a popular opinion. I can already tell I've dug a hole for myself in this thread calling out our 2 favorite broadcasters. But it is what it is. I call it how I see it.

newyorker4ever wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

tj23 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

tj23 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

tj23 wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

sidneydeane wrote:Definitely dont want jennings starting at any stage, he's just not good enough. D is terrible, has eratic shot taking and always shoots low percentages. He is good coming off the bench tho just pushing the pace and setting ppl up. Would be happy to go forward with rose but we cant risk a max on him, and i highly doubt phil would.

Agree on both points although Jennings d isn't bad. If Jennings was worth that much why didn't he command more than 1 year 5mm? 3 yrs 27 mm is more than reasonable. Also Rose is not a franchise player I'd rather pay him reasonable 17-18mm for 3-4 years but no way would I pay him like Conley

Jennings' D is absolutely awful. Any 2 man game against Jennings and Willy is destroying us. He is 100% lost off the ball allowing breakdowns.

Jennings as a knick has played good d in my opinion. He puts a lot of pressure on his man. Pretty sure he has been praised for his play on d either by Breen/Clyde or Hornacek.

No disrespect to Breen or Clyde, they are legends, but Breen has very limited knowledge and the game has clearly passed Clyde by or his eyes aren't what they used to be. They aren't insightful at all and it's been that way for a long time tbh.

There's a reason we have one of the worst defensive units in the league. But I'm not trying to generalize. I'll see if I can put together some video evidence to back up what I'm saying. But BJ is a guy if you watch closely is constantly making mistakes on the defensive end. More than most guys on the team, whether it's beat off the dribble, failing to pick up in transition, missing rotations, beat back door, etc.

Breen was a ref. I do the clock at work for some games and refs have to know the game. Clyde has been around the game forever. How does the game pass you by when you are doing games 4/7 nights a week. I would love video evidence proving my eyes wrong about Jennings. He is a pest and disruptive.

Maybe I should make a video on the ridiculously inaccurate things Breen and Clyde say. They know more than the average fan but that isn't saying much. But I get it. Not a popular opinion. I can already tell I've dug a hole for myself in this thread calling out our 2 favorite broadcasters. But it is what it is. I call it how I see it.

I am on the fence about Breen. He was very angry at Melo after D'Antoni resigned and it carried over to his broadcasts for years. JVG called him out for his coverage of Melo on national broadcasts.

What does that have to do with whether or not he knows the game of basketball??