nixluva wrote:Media is still trying to push negative narratives about the Knicks. Phil simply doesn't talk to these media guys and I doubt he or his staff are talking now either. If something like this happens it would be rare for the media to scoop a Phil move.

SocraticBallin22 wrote:Only way I make this trade is if we unload Melo's long contract and get their 1st round draft pick this year. Then we will have a 1st rounder and tons of cap space after next year in an elite free agent class. That's long term thinking and rebuilding.

That's the prototype for a trade we shouldn't make aka dump our best for nothing.

EnySpree wrote:Hornacek said that he wanted a point guard around 28 years old to be a stop gap player to get them where they need to be.... Derrick Rose for 1 year is a stop gap player. He would attract Durant.... all I see now I'd Melo, Durant, KP and Rose in the starting line up.... sign his old aau buddy Eric Gordon with Tony wroten and jerian off the bench and lets go... can we sprinkle joakim Noah in there too? Wooooooo!

If trading for D.Rose would guarantee KD coming i would do the trade yesterday but why would KD want to come to New York just cause we have an injury riddled player who doesn't get along with all of his teammates and knowing he'd only be here for one year??

newyorker4ever wrote:

EnySpree wrote:Hornacek said that he wanted a point guard around 28 years old to be a stop gap player to get them where they need to be.... Derrick Rose for 1 year is a stop gap player. He would attract Durant.... all I see now I'd Melo, Durant, KP and Rose in the starting line up.... sign his old aau buddy Eric Gordon with Tony wroten and jerian off the bench and lets go... can we sprinkle joakim Noah in there too? Wooooooo!

If trading for D.Rose would guarantee KD coming i would do the trade yesterday but why would KD want to come to New York just cause we have an injury riddled player who doesn't get along with all of his teammates and knowing he'd only be here for one year??

Well, for his bird rights and a calculated assumption that he will revert to his prior form, in such event, the Knicks might have significant ability to add another free agent next year in addition to that core of Rose, KD, Melo and Porzingis.

I'm not sure I believe he reverts to that form. I'd need a KD to make that move. If it were a better Rose you wouldn't get him for Rolo and Calderon. But, worst case is room for two more high end FAs next year. That's where the tank comes in.

knicks1248 wrote:looks like the bulls are in reset mode, fire sale is on the horizon

if there is one player that I would want from the Bulls knowing Butler is off limits its Taj Gibson.

No this has to be a pure salary dump or else the Knicks have been swindled once again.

In fact the Bulls should give the Knicks a pick or an asset to take on rose.

But, he played well last year the last 3rd of the season. Its my opinion he is ripe for the zen of triangularization and on paper the prototypical candidate if.

Big list of If's regarding this guy's health going forward. The knicks should be having "Internal conversations" about him, and many others of course.

I expect Rose to have a monster year, this his "contract year".
guys like this are why NBA needs NFL type contracts. Period guarantee then at teams option. This way the better players can get value while guys like Rose can also get paid, but if they can't hold up, you don't ruin franchise.

Rose on the knicks? I suppose it depends on lots of things like price paid, his buy in, and what the doctors think. James Dolan would do it, Phil will weigh it better.

callmened wrote:i doubt this is phil's idea. just the media making a story. this is exactly the type of player we need to avoid

EwingsGlass wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:

EnySpree wrote:Hornacek said that he wanted a point guard around 28 years old to be a stop gap player to get them where they need to be.... Derrick Rose for 1 year is a stop gap player. He would attract Durant.... all I see now I'd Melo, Durant, KP and Rose in the starting line up.... sign his old aau buddy Eric Gordon with Tony wroten and jerian off the bench and lets go... can we sprinkle joakim Noah in there too? Wooooooo!

If trading for D.Rose would guarantee KD coming i would do the trade yesterday but why would KD want to come to New York just cause we have an injury riddled player who doesn't get along with all of his teammates and knowing he'd only be here for one year??

Well, for his bird rights and a calculated assumption that he will revert to his prior form, in such event, the Knicks might have significant ability to add another free agent next year in addition to that core of Rose, KD, Melo and Porzingis.

I'm not sure I believe he reverts to that form. I'd need a KD to make that move. If it were a better Rose you wouldn't get him for Rolo and Calderon. But, worst case is room for two more high end FAs next year. That's where the tank comes in.

But Rose is on the last year of his contract so he wouldn't be here the following year to add another piece to that core and then not only is Rose gone but so is Rolo who we traded to have Rose for one year. It just doesn't make sense to me to trade Rolo for Rose when Rolo could get us J.Teague or plenty of other guards from teams who would love to have a true center like Rolo.