StarksEwing1 wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

martin wrote:

fishmike wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

fishmike wrote:one of the more touted players in EU. Read about the 4 attempts by his current team to extend him. Or just throw poop because he's a 2nd round Euro and that's enough info for you to work with. Seems like the only "facts" some can work with are the ones that come from Marc Berman

most knick fans are excited about willy actually

I agree. Just some grumpy guys with no info to add who seem to revel in pessimism and negativity. Guy is a touted prospect. Nobody is saying he's another KP, but a smart multi skilled bigman? Good shot at a rotation player? I think its safe to project him as a rotation guy (career wise, not rookie). Question is will be an end of rotation bench guy or a starter/core player type? Maybe he's like Kyle OQuinn. Maybe he's like Marc Gasol. Time will tell. The intel however is very positive (if you actually choose to look at it)

This. I am tired of it. I'm all for differing opinions; add some meat into your opinion and we all enjoy the back and forth.

Willy was traded for 2 future round picks. Some have said if he was drafted this year he would go in the 20's, someone else's opinion.

Every pick from #1 on down can fail and fail spectacularly, we all know that.

If all you add is pessimism all the time, it turns into trolling and we all got better things to do.

We've all been Knicks fans for a loooooong time. We are all aware of the possible negatives. None of the pessimism is ground breaking stuff. The fans usually on the positive side tend to be the ones that don't care about being right or wrong. Only looking for reasons Y a player COULD work out or why a situation COULD work out in a positive manner. The ones that have more of a negative view tend to be fans that care more about being right or wrong. And if you choose the negative route odds are you will be more right then wrong since odds are always in the favor of the negative result.

I have a positive view of Hernangomez and KP and Grant and Wroten and I'm excited to see if they can improve and can sign players this summer. I like Rolo and Melo and DWill and even kinda like Afflalo sometimes.

That said, can't I still be pissed off about the coaching search and the way it is being handled? The only other time I've been very outspokenly negative was about the way the Jeremy Lin situation was handled. I was roasted then for my "constant negativity" and for suggesting that Melo didn't want him back when I couldn't possibly know - then ESPN reported a few months later that Melo wanted no part of Lin and that was part of why Lin wasn't brought back. I'm getting the same **** now when it is obvious there's a power struggle between Melo and Phil over who the head coach will be - and frankly that's ****ing interesting to talk about. I left the board for over a year before when the Lin **** went down, I'm on the verge of leaving again.

Being able to talk about the team means being able to praise the stuff you like and bitch about the stuff that pisses you off. It doesn't matter in the end, none of it matters, it's ****ing sports and entertainment. But you're allowed to get pissed off about sports and entertainment, no? I respect a lot of guys here, but really some of you "positive" fans are just as stubborn and repetitive and say the same **** with no evidence as some of the so called "negative" ones. The way you dudes gang up on anyone who expresses a view that all is not well and something may be going on behind the scenes to cause it... it just kinda sucks. For the first time I registered at a different site to talk about the Knicks and I've been going there more often. I like a lot of posters here, but really some of the way y'all protect Phil and act like we can't criticize anything he's done... I mean... I dunno, whatever. The way you respond to the supposed "negativity" here is in fact negative in itself and creates a sort of toxic loop. It's not cool. I'll miss some of you dudes, but I won't miss the concern trolling of any negative thought I have about how Phil is doing his job.

exactly. I consider myself a positive knick fan. I have praised KP,jerian grant,cleanthony,willy,dwill,and lopez as great moves. However there have also been bad moves as well. Its not negative to point out those moves as long as its honest. I think some are afraid to be even a tad critical

And what would they be afraid of? Critique isn't the problem. I didn't like the Lopez signing and expressed that when it happen. Yet I didn't spam the board and high jacking every thread in order to express my dislike. I didn't like the Calderon trade. Expressed my dislike when it happen. But again didn't spam the board with anti Calderon/Phil post and threads.

Nixluva is a little to fiesty in his Knicks praise true. But at least he constantly backs it up with detailed reason y he feels that way. Without needing to go to TMZ or the Inquirer in order to promote his agenda. If he pushes anything he at least uses straight up statistics.

newyorknewyork wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

fishmike wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

martin wrote:

fishmike wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

fishmike wrote:one of the more touted players in EU. Read about the 4 attempts by his current team to extend him. Or just throw poop because he's a 2nd round Euro and that's enough info for you to work with. Seems like the only "facts" some can work with are the ones that come from Marc Berman

most knick fans are excited about willy actually

I agree. Just some grumpy guys with no info to add who seem to revel in pessimism and negativity. Guy is a touted prospect. Nobody is saying he's another KP, but a smart multi skilled bigman? Good shot at a rotation player? I think its safe to project him as a rotation guy (career wise, not rookie). Question is will be an end of rotation bench guy or a starter/core player type? Maybe he's like Kyle OQuinn. Maybe he's like Marc Gasol. Time will tell. The intel however is very positive (if you actually choose to look at it)

This. I am tired of it. I'm all for differing opinions; add some meat into your opinion and we all enjoy the back and forth.

Willy was traded for 2 future round picks. Some have said if he was drafted this year he would go in the 20's, someone else's opinion.

Every pick from #1 on down can fail and fail spectacularly, we all know that.

If all you add is pessimism all the time, it turns into trolling and we all got better things to do.

We've all been Knicks fans for a loooooong time. We are all aware of the possible negatives. None of the pessimism is ground breaking stuff. The fans usually on the positive side tend to be the ones that don't care about being right or wrong. Only looking for reasons Y a player COULD work out or why a situation COULD work out in a positive manner. The ones that have more of a negative view tend to be fans that care more about being right or wrong. And if you choose the negative route odds are you will be more right then wrong since odds are always in the favor of the negative result.

I have a positive view of Hernangomez and KP and Grant and Wroten and I'm excited to see if they can improve and can sign players this summer. I like Rolo and Melo and DWill and even kinda like Afflalo sometimes.

That said, can't I still be pissed off about the coaching search and the way it is being handled? The only other time I've been very outspokenly negative was about the way the Jeremy Lin situation was handled. I was roasted then for my "constant negativity" and for suggesting that Melo didn't want him back when I couldn't possibly know - then ESPN reported a few months later that Melo wanted no part of Lin and that was part of why Lin wasn't brought back. I'm getting the same **** now when it is obvious there's a power struggle between Melo and Phil over who the head coach will be - and frankly that's ****ing interesting to talk about. I left the board for over a year before when the Lin **** went down, I'm on the verge of leaving again.

Being able to talk about the team means being able to praise the stuff you like and bitch about the stuff that pisses you off. It doesn't matter in the end, none of it matters, it's ****ing sports and entertainment. But you're allowed to get pissed off about sports and entertainment, no? I respect a lot of guys here, but really some of you "positive" fans are just as stubborn and repetitive and say the same **** with no evidence as some of the so called "negative" ones. The way you dudes gang up on anyone who expresses a view that all is not well and something may be going on behind the scenes to cause it... it just kinda sucks. For the first time I registered at a different site to talk about the Knicks and I've been going there more often. I like a lot of posters here, but really some of the way y'all protect Phil and act like we can't criticize anything he's done... I mean... I dunno, whatever. The way you respond to the supposed "negativity" here is in fact negative in itself and creates a sort of toxic loop. It's not cool. I'll miss some of you dudes, but I won't miss the concern trolling of any negative thought I have about how Phil is doing his job.

Dude, I just said something similar, I just don't get it. I got killed for posting negative comments on fisher like I didn't know what I was talking about, and low and behold he gets fired, so obviously I knew something wasn't right.

Now I'm getting killed because I absolute think Rambis is the worse option as a head coach, and apparently I don't know what I'm talking about...LIKE WTF, it ridiculous.

There isn't a person on the planet(other then phil) that would pick rambis over any current available coach,, so why are they acting like what im saying is completely outrageous.

you get killed for making stuff up. You are the exact guy I mentioned in my response to him.

SO I WAS MAking up all the ridiculous moves fisher was doing, im making up that the fact that rambis is not a good head coach.. Dude this stuff is printed in the paper every single day, but of course there making stuff up..you need to point out particulars, because I don't make stuff up to prove a point, if you call me out on something that I miss, prove it, and I never have a problem admitting to being wrong...the fck..im human, with no agenda... so be it, I don't get upset or defensive, were talking sports, not religion.

This thread was about Willie and you added a comment about how we can't trust thisbcoaxhing staff to develop him. As you can see you injected your hate for Rambis as our coach in a thread that wasn't about Rambis. And due to you not like g Rambis as a coach you all of a sudden down grade his ability to develop a player like Willie. Yet there isn't much evidence that suggest that he sucks at developing players. He has been and assistant on championship teams. And as a head coach Kevin Love broke out in his 3rd yr with Rambis as head coach. When a person can't bring any positives to the equation then thats usually a sign that agenda is getting the best of you.

I just look at guys like galloway and early who got worse. rambis tried to turn skinny as KP in to a post player, like he was ready for that, he benched dwill and grant, and they had very erratic season base on there playing time and triangle issues.

Rambis only focus is the triangle, nothing else matters except perfecting it by any means. Phil knows this. I know kp will be good regardless of rambis,h The fact that none of the young players we have credited rambis for their growth is a tell tell sign. Kp credits melo for his growth.

When I read that there was a game in which mini gave up a 120 points and scored 80,and the only thing rambis talked about was the triangle after the game, I had to smdh. Love was at war with rambis over his usage and if you want, there's plenty of articles on the subject.

So with that kind of history, of course I have to question not only his ability to develop WILLY, but his overall reltionship with young players.

knicks1248 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

fishmike wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

martin wrote:

fishmike wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

fishmike wrote:one of the more touted players in EU. Read about the 4 attempts by his current team to extend him. Or just throw poop because he's a 2nd round Euro and that's enough info for you to work with. Seems like the only "facts" some can work with are the ones that come from Marc Berman

most knick fans are excited about willy actually

I agree. Just some grumpy guys with no info to add who seem to revel in pessimism and negativity. Guy is a touted prospect. Nobody is saying he's another KP, but a smart multi skilled bigman? Good shot at a rotation player? I think its safe to project him as a rotation guy (career wise, not rookie). Question is will be an end of rotation bench guy or a starter/core player type? Maybe he's like Kyle OQuinn. Maybe he's like Marc Gasol. Time will tell. The intel however is very positive (if you actually choose to look at it)

This. I am tired of it. I'm all for differing opinions; add some meat into your opinion and we all enjoy the back and forth.

Willy was traded for 2 future round picks. Some have said if he was drafted this year he would go in the 20's, someone else's opinion.

Every pick from #1 on down can fail and fail spectacularly, we all know that.

If all you add is pessimism all the time, it turns into trolling and we all got better things to do.

We've all been Knicks fans for a loooooong time. We are all aware of the possible negatives. None of the pessimism is ground breaking stuff. The fans usually on the positive side tend to be the ones that don't care about being right or wrong. Only looking for reasons Y a player COULD work out or why a situation COULD work out in a positive manner. The ones that have more of a negative view tend to be fans that care more about being right or wrong. And if you choose the negative route odds are you will be more right then wrong since odds are always in the favor of the negative result.

I have a positive view of Hernangomez and KP and Grant and Wroten and I'm excited to see if they can improve and can sign players this summer. I like Rolo and Melo and DWill and even kinda like Afflalo sometimes.

That said, can't I still be pissed off about the coaching search and the way it is being handled? The only other time I've been very outspokenly negative was about the way the Jeremy Lin situation was handled. I was roasted then for my "constant negativity" and for suggesting that Melo didn't want him back when I couldn't possibly know - then ESPN reported a few months later that Melo wanted no part of Lin and that was part of why Lin wasn't brought back. I'm getting the same **** now when it is obvious there's a power struggle between Melo and Phil over who the head coach will be - and frankly that's ****ing interesting to talk about. I left the board for over a year before when the Lin **** went down, I'm on the verge of leaving again.

Being able to talk about the team means being able to praise the stuff you like and bitch about the stuff that pisses you off. It doesn't matter in the end, none of it matters, it's ****ing sports and entertainment. But you're allowed to get pissed off about sports and entertainment, no? I respect a lot of guys here, but really some of you "positive" fans are just as stubborn and repetitive and say the same **** with no evidence as some of the so called "negative" ones. The way you dudes gang up on anyone who expresses a view that all is not well and something may be going on behind the scenes to cause it... it just kinda sucks. For the first time I registered at a different site to talk about the Knicks and I've been going there more often. I like a lot of posters here, but really some of the way y'all protect Phil and act like we can't criticize anything he's done... I mean... I dunno, whatever. The way you respond to the supposed "negativity" here is in fact negative in itself and creates a sort of toxic loop. It's not cool. I'll miss some of you dudes, but I won't miss the concern trolling of any negative thought I have about how Phil is doing his job.

Dude, I just said something similar, I just don't get it. I got killed for posting negative comments on fisher like I didn't know what I was talking about, and low and behold he gets fired, so obviously I knew something wasn't right.

Now I'm getting killed because I absolute think Rambis is the worse option as a head coach, and apparently I don't know what I'm talking about...LIKE WTF, it ridiculous.

There isn't a person on the planet(other then phil) that would pick rambis over any current available coach,, so why are they acting like what im saying is completely outrageous.

you get killed for making stuff up. You are the exact guy I mentioned in my response to him.

SO I WAS MAking up all the ridiculous moves fisher was doing, im making up that the fact that rambis is not a good head coach.. Dude this stuff is printed in the paper every single day, but of course there making stuff up..you need to point out particulars, because I don't make stuff up to prove a point, if you call me out on something that I miss, prove it, and I never have a problem admitting to being wrong...the fck..im human, with no agenda... so be it, I don't get upset or defensive, were talking sports, not religion.

This thread was about Willie and you added a comment about how we can't trust thisbcoaxhing staff to develop him. As you can see you injected your hate for Rambis as our coach in a thread that wasn't about Rambis. And due to you not like g Rambis as a coach you all of a sudden down grade his ability to develop a player like Willie. Yet there isn't much evidence that suggest that he sucks at developing players. He has been and assistant on championship teams. And as a head coach Kevin Love broke out in his 3rd yr with Rambis as head coach. When a person can't bring any positives to the equation then thats usually a sign that agenda is getting the best of you.

I just look at guys like galloway and early who got worse. rambis tried to turn skinny as KP in to a post player, like he was ready for that, he benched dwill and grant, and they had very erratic season base on there playing time and triangle issues.

Rambis only focus is the triangle, nothing else matters except perfecting it by any means. Phil knows this. I know kp will be good regardless of rambis,h The fact that none of the young players we have credited rambis for their growth is a tell tell sign. Kp credits melo for his growth.

When I read that there was a game in which mini gave up a 120 points and scored 80,and the only thing rambis talked about was the triangle after the game, I had to smdh. Love was at war with rambis over his usage and if you want, there's plenty of articles on the subject.

So with that kind of history, of course I have to question not only his ability to develop WILLY, but his overall reltionship with young players.

Rambis was head coach for 28 games of the season with the Knicks. Didn't follow the Wolves in detail those yrs so can't really comment on he said she said.

If he is the head coach. We will be able to see what he can do with a training camp as head coach with Jax being hands on and partipating.

knicks1248 wrote:

nixluva wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

fishmike wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

martin wrote:

fishmike wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

fishmike wrote:one of the more touted players in EU. Read about the 4 attempts by his current team to extend him. Or just throw poop because he's a 2nd round Euro and that's enough info for you to work with. Seems like the only "facts" some can work with are the ones that come from Marc Berman

most knick fans are excited about willy actually

I agree. Just some grumpy guys with no info to add who seem to revel in pessimism and negativity. Guy is a touted prospect. Nobody is saying he's another KP, but a smart multi skilled bigman? Good shot at a rotation player? I think its safe to project him as a rotation guy (career wise, not rookie). Question is will be an end of rotation bench guy or a starter/core player type? Maybe he's like Kyle OQuinn. Maybe he's like Marc Gasol. Time will tell. The intel however is very positive (if you actually choose to look at it)

This. I am tired of it. I'm all for differing opinions; add some meat into your opinion and we all enjoy the back and forth.

Willy was traded for 2 future round picks. Some have said if he was drafted this year he would go in the 20's, someone else's opinion.

Every pick from #1 on down can fail and fail spectacularly, we all know that.

If all you add is pessimism all the time, it turns into trolling and we all got better things to do.

We've all been Knicks fans for a loooooong time. We are all aware of the possible negatives. None of the pessimism is ground breaking stuff. The fans usually on the positive side tend to be the ones that don't care about being right or wrong. Only looking for reasons Y a player COULD work out or why a situation COULD work out in a positive manner. The ones that have more of a negative view tend to be fans that care more about being right or wrong. And if you choose the negative route odds are you will be more right then wrong since odds are always in the favor of the negative result.

I have a positive view of Hernangomez and KP and Grant and Wroten and I'm excited to see if they can improve and can sign players this summer. I like Rolo and Melo and DWill and even kinda like Afflalo sometimes.

That said, can't I still be pissed off about the coaching search and the way it is being handled? The only other time I've been very outspokenly negative was about the way the Jeremy Lin situation was handled. I was roasted then for my "constant negativity" and for suggesting that Melo didn't want him back when I couldn't possibly know - then ESPN reported a few months later that Melo wanted no part of Lin and that was part of why Lin wasn't brought back. I'm getting the same **** now when it is obvious there's a power struggle between Melo and Phil over who the head coach will be - and frankly that's ****ing interesting to talk about. I left the board for over a year before when the Lin **** went down, I'm on the verge of leaving again.

Being able to talk about the team means being able to praise the stuff you like and bitch about the stuff that pisses you off. It doesn't matter in the end, none of it matters, it's ****ing sports and entertainment. But you're allowed to get pissed off about sports and entertainment, no? I respect a lot of guys here, but really some of you "positive" fans are just as stubborn and repetitive and say the same **** with no evidence as some of the so called "negative" ones. The way you dudes gang up on anyone who expresses a view that all is not well and something may be going on behind the scenes to cause it... it just kinda sucks. For the first time I registered at a different site to talk about the Knicks and I've been going there more often. I like a lot of posters here, but really some of the way y'all protect Phil and act like we can't criticize anything he's done... I mean... I dunno, whatever. The way you respond to the supposed "negativity" here is in fact negative in itself and creates a sort of toxic loop. It's not cool. I'll miss some of you dudes, but I won't miss the concern trolling of any negative thought I have about how Phil is doing his job.

Dude, I just said something similar, I just don't get it. I got killed for posting negative comments on fisher like I didn't know what I was talking about, and low and behold he gets fired, so obviously I knew something wasn't right.

Now I'm getting killed because I absolute think Rambis is the worse option as a head coach, and apparently I don't know what I'm talking about...LIKE WTF, it ridiculous.

There isn't a person on the planet(other then phil) that would pick rambis over any current available coach,, so why are they acting like what im saying is completely outrageous.

you get killed for making stuff up. You are the exact guy I mentioned in my response to him.

SO I WAS MAking up all the ridiculous moves fisher was doing, im making up that the fact that rambis is not a good head coach.. Dude this stuff is printed in the paper every single day, but of course there making stuff up..you need to point out particulars, because I don't make stuff up to prove a point, if you call me out on something that I miss, prove it, and I never have a problem admitting to being wrong...the fck..im human, with no agenda... so be it, I don't get upset or defensive, were talking sports, not religion.

This thread was about Willie and you added a comment about how we can't trust thisbcoaxhing staff to develop him. As you can see you injected your hate for Rambis as our coach in a thread that wasn't about Rambis. And due to you not like g Rambis as a coach you all of a sudden down grade his ability to develop a player like Willie. Yet there isn't much evidence that suggest that he sucks at developing players. He has been and assistant on championship teams. And as a head coach Kevin Love broke out in his 3rd yr with Rambis as head coach. When a person can't bring any positives to the equation then thats usually a sign that agenda is getting the best of you.

I just look at guys like galloway and early who got worse. rambis tried to turn skinny as KP in to a post player, like he was ready for that, he benched dwill and grant, and they had very erratic season base on there playing time and triangle issues.

Rambis only focus is the triangle, nothing else matters except perfecting it by any means. Phil knows this. I know kp will be good regardless of rambis,h The fact that none of the young players we have credited rambis for their growth is a tell tell sign. Kp credits melo for his growth.

When I read that there was a game in which mini gave up a 120 points and scored 80,and the only thing rambis talked about was the triangle after the game, I had to smdh. Love was at war with rambis over his usage and if you want, there's plenty of articles on the subject.

So with that kind of history, of course I have to question not only his ability to develop WILLY, but his overall reltionship with young players.

See this is the kind of thing that annoys the hell out of me!!! It's why I always post Stats and factual information so that we can try to kill the noise and false info that keeps getting repeated. If people like the rapid development of KP then they have Rambis to thank!!!

Kristaps Porzingis' versatility draws raves from Kurt Rambis
Updated October 6, 2015 2:59 AM

By AL IANNAZZONE al.iannazzone@newsday.com

GREENBURGH, N.Y. - Knicks associate head coach Kurt Rambis said Kristaps Porzingis has "effortless three-point range" and has aspects of Dirk Nowitzki and Pau Gasol in his game. But Rambis said Porzingis needs time to develop.

"He might be a combination of both of them because he can do so many things," said Rambis, who ran the Knicks on Monday with Derek Fisher away from the team for personal reasons. "You guys haven't seen it yet and probably all of it won't come out for three, four, five years either. He's got to grow up, mature, develop, get stronger, get used to the NBA game.

"He already understands basketball. He already knows what to do. He's an unselfish ballplayer. He makes really good decisions. It wasn't like he's a blank slate coming in here. He knows how to play. He's going to be fun to work with."

The Knicks took Porzingis with the No. 4 pick, and the 7-3 power forward from Latvia has shown maturity, versatility and some toughness. But he still hasn't faced real NBA competition, which will come later this week when the Knicks start playing preseason games.

Rambis has been working with Porzingis since the summer and has been impressed with his mobility and agility. He referenced the big man bringing up the ball in a fastbreak situation.

"For a 7-3 guy, that's tremendous," Rambis said. "And he's going to be able to play with his back to the basket. He's going to be able to play facing the basket, handle the ball. We like his defense too, his length. There's not too many players out there that have his mobility and his length, so we see a lot of things that he can bring to the table at the defensive end."

Rambis said the coaching staff still hasn't decided whether to start Porzingis or bring him off the bench.

He has been scrimmaging on the same team as Carmelo Anthony a lot, which makes sense because he will take some attention away from Porzingis. But Rambis also noted that if Porzingis comes off the bench, the matchups might be more favorable against a second unit.

Either way, Rambis thinks Porzingis will be able to help the Knicks and be a matchup problem for opposing teams.

"His ability to shoot the basketball is going to be very dangerous and teams are going to be very wary of him," Rambis said. "His reputation as a shooter is going to go around the league quickly.

"He's going to have to be able to do a good job of reading defenses. That's probably the No. 1 thing that he has to do is make the correct decision reading the defense, whether he's playing with his back to the basket or facing it. And then all that other normal stuff that rookies have to learn."

http://www.newsday.com/sports/basketball/knicks/kristaps-porzingis-versatility-draws-raves-from-kurt-rambis-1.10925490

Knicks associate head coach Kurt Rambis, placed in charge of Kristaps Porzingis’ development, sees a do-everything-on-offense big man, a cross between Dirk Nowitzki and Pau Gasol.

However, in a rare interview, Rambis also made the argument that the skinny 20-year-old could be better served coming off the bench as a rookie. The Knicks open the preseason schedule Wednesday at the Garden against Brazil’s Bauru club, and the faithful hope Porzingis starts alongside center Robin Lopez and Carmelo Anthony. No decision has been made, but sources indicate Phil Jackson hopes it happens, even if the team president envisions Porzingis playing no more than 20 or so minutes per game.

http://nypost.com/2015/10/05/why-tremendous-dangerous-porzingis-may-not-start-rambis/

THATS EXACTLY MY POINT, if it was up to rambis, KP would have started the season off the bench, but fisher saw enough to make him a starter, and h was right.

So you think the same man that developed Bynum for the Lakers and helped the Knicks Big Men is somehow a detriment to the development of KP???

Beyond all the work Rambis did in choreographing the Lakers' more aggressive defense for last season, bear in mind that Rambis put in a tremendous amount of time working with the Lakers' big men. Rambis especially did a lot of on-court teaching with Andrew Bynum, even though Kareem Abdul-Jabbar gets so much credit for being Bynum's private tutor.

Timberwolves Coach Kurt Rambis, who worked with Bynum for four seasons as a Lakers assistant coach, said he had seen an uptick in Bynum's play over the last couple of weeks.

"I was watching a game the other day and Andrew made three quick attempts — he took a shot, gathered himself and went back up again, missed the second shot, gathered himself and went right back up again — so that lets me know that he's getting more control of his body and can do those secondary and tertiary actions," Rambis said.

Why is it do you think Phil had Rambis right next to him all those years? If he had no value would a man like Phil have him as his #1 Assistant and devising the Defense for his Title teams?

martin wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

nixluva wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

fishmike wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

martin wrote:

fishmike wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

fishmike wrote:one of the more touted players in EU. Read about the 4 attempts by his current team to extend him. Or just throw poop because he's a 2nd round Euro and that's enough info for you to work with. Seems like the only "facts" some can work with are the ones that come from Marc Berman

most knick fans are excited about willy actually

I agree. Just some grumpy guys with no info to add who seem to revel in pessimism and negativity. Guy is a touted prospect. Nobody is saying he's another KP, but a smart multi skilled bigman? Good shot at a rotation player? I think its safe to project him as a rotation guy (career wise, not rookie). Question is will be an end of rotation bench guy or a starter/core player type? Maybe he's like Kyle OQuinn. Maybe he's like Marc Gasol. Time will tell. The intel however is very positive (if you actually choose to look at it)

This. I am tired of it. I'm all for differing opinions; add some meat into your opinion and we all enjoy the back and forth.

Willy was traded for 2 future round picks. Some have said if he was drafted this year he would go in the 20's, someone else's opinion.

Every pick from #1 on down can fail and fail spectacularly, we all know that.

If all you add is pessimism all the time, it turns into trolling and we all got better things to do.

We've all been Knicks fans for a loooooong time. We are all aware of the possible negatives. None of the pessimism is ground breaking stuff. The fans usually on the positive side tend to be the ones that don't care about being right or wrong. Only looking for reasons Y a player COULD work out or why a situation COULD work out in a positive manner. The ones that have more of a negative view tend to be fans that care more about being right or wrong. And if you choose the negative route odds are you will be more right then wrong since odds are always in the favor of the negative result.

I have a positive view of Hernangomez and KP and Grant and Wroten and I'm excited to see if they can improve and can sign players this summer. I like Rolo and Melo and DWill and even kinda like Afflalo sometimes.

That said, can't I still be pissed off about the coaching search and the way it is being handled? The only other time I've been very outspokenly negative was about the way the Jeremy Lin situation was handled. I was roasted then for my "constant negativity" and for suggesting that Melo didn't want him back when I couldn't possibly know - then ESPN reported a few months later that Melo wanted no part of Lin and that was part of why Lin wasn't brought back. I'm getting the same **** now when it is obvious there's a power struggle between Melo and Phil over who the head coach will be - and frankly that's ****ing interesting to talk about. I left the board for over a year before when the Lin **** went down, I'm on the verge of leaving again.

Being able to talk about the team means being able to praise the stuff you like and bitch about the stuff that pisses you off. It doesn't matter in the end, none of it matters, it's ****ing sports and entertainment. But you're allowed to get pissed off about sports and entertainment, no? I respect a lot of guys here, but really some of you "positive" fans are just as stubborn and repetitive and say the same **** with no evidence as some of the so called "negative" ones. The way you dudes gang up on anyone who expresses a view that all is not well and something may be going on behind the scenes to cause it... it just kinda sucks. For the first time I registered at a different site to talk about the Knicks and I've been going there more often. I like a lot of posters here, but really some of the way y'all protect Phil and act like we can't criticize anything he's done... I mean... I dunno, whatever. The way you respond to the supposed "negativity" here is in fact negative in itself and creates a sort of toxic loop. It's not cool. I'll miss some of you dudes, but I won't miss the concern trolling of any negative thought I have about how Phil is doing his job.

Dude, I just said something similar, I just don't get it. I got killed for posting negative comments on fisher like I didn't know what I was talking about, and low and behold he gets fired, so obviously I knew something wasn't right.

Now I'm getting killed because I absolute think Rambis is the worse option as a head coach, and apparently I don't know what I'm talking about...LIKE WTF, it ridiculous.

There isn't a person on the planet(other then phil) that would pick rambis over any current available coach,, so why are they acting like what im saying is completely outrageous.

you get killed for making stuff up. You are the exact guy I mentioned in my response to him.

SO I WAS MAking up all the ridiculous moves fisher was doing, im making up that the fact that rambis is not a good head coach.. Dude this stuff is printed in the paper every single day, but of course there making stuff up..you need to point out particulars, because I don't make stuff up to prove a point, if you call me out on something that I miss, prove it, and I never have a problem admitting to being wrong...the fck..im human, with no agenda... so be it, I don't get upset or defensive, were talking sports, not religion.

This thread was about Willie and you added a comment about how we can't trust thisbcoaxhing staff to develop him. As you can see you injected your hate for Rambis as our coach in a thread that wasn't about Rambis. And due to you not like g Rambis as a coach you all of a sudden down grade his ability to develop a player like Willie. Yet there isn't much evidence that suggest that he sucks at developing players. He has been and assistant on championship teams. And as a head coach Kevin Love broke out in his 3rd yr with Rambis as head coach. When a person can't bring any positives to the equation then thats usually a sign that agenda is getting the best of you.

I just look at guys like galloway and early who got worse. rambis tried to turn skinny as KP in to a post player, like he was ready for that, he benched dwill and grant, and they had very erratic season base on there playing time and triangle issues.

Rambis only focus is the triangle, nothing else matters except perfecting it by any means. Phil knows this. I know kp will be good regardless of rambis,h The fact that none of the young players we have credited rambis for their growth is a tell tell sign. Kp credits melo for his growth.

When I read that there was a game in which mini gave up a 120 points and scored 80,and the only thing rambis talked about was the triangle after the game, I had to smdh. Love was at war with rambis over his usage and if you want, there's plenty of articles on the subject.

So with that kind of history, of course I have to question not only his ability to develop WILLY, but his overall reltionship with young players.

See this is the kind of thing that annoys the hell out of me!!! It's why I always post Stats and factual information so that we can try to kill the noise and false info that keeps getting repeated. If people like the rapid development of KP then they have Rambis to thank!!!

Kristaps Porzingis' versatility draws raves from Kurt Rambis
Updated October 6, 2015 2:59 AM

By AL IANNAZZONE al.iannazzone@newsday.com

GREENBURGH, N.Y. - Knicks associate head coach Kurt Rambis said Kristaps Porzingis has "effortless three-point range" and has aspects of Dirk Nowitzki and Pau Gasol in his game. But Rambis said Porzingis needs time to develop.

"He might be a combination of both of them because he can do so many things," said Rambis, who ran the Knicks on Monday with Derek Fisher away from the team for personal reasons. "You guys haven't seen it yet and probably all of it won't come out for three, four, five years either. He's got to grow up, mature, develop, get stronger, get used to the NBA game.

"He already understands basketball. He already knows what to do. He's an unselfish ballplayer. He makes really good decisions. It wasn't like he's a blank slate coming in here. He knows how to play. He's going to be fun to work with."

The Knicks took Porzingis with the No. 4 pick, and the 7-3 power forward from Latvia has shown maturity, versatility and some toughness. But he still hasn't faced real NBA competition, which will come later this week when the Knicks start playing preseason games.

Rambis has been working with Porzingis since the summer and has been impressed with his mobility and agility. He referenced the big man bringing up the ball in a fastbreak situation.

"For a 7-3 guy, that's tremendous," Rambis said. "And he's going to be able to play with his back to the basket. He's going to be able to play facing the basket, handle the ball. We like his defense too, his length. There's not too many players out there that have his mobility and his length, so we see a lot of things that he can bring to the table at the defensive end."

Rambis said the coaching staff still hasn't decided whether to start Porzingis or bring him off the bench.

He has been scrimmaging on the same team as Carmelo Anthony a lot, which makes sense because he will take some attention away from Porzingis. But Rambis also noted that if Porzingis comes off the bench, the matchups might be more favorable against a second unit.

Either way, Rambis thinks Porzingis will be able to help the Knicks and be a matchup problem for opposing teams.

"His ability to shoot the basketball is going to be very dangerous and teams are going to be very wary of him," Rambis said. "His reputation as a shooter is going to go around the league quickly.

"He's going to have to be able to do a good job of reading defenses. That's probably the No. 1 thing that he has to do is make the correct decision reading the defense, whether he's playing with his back to the basket or facing it. And then all that other normal stuff that rookies have to learn."

http://www.newsday.com/sports/basketball/knicks/kristaps-porzingis-versatility-draws-raves-from-kurt-rambis-1.10925490

Knicks associate head coach Kurt Rambis, placed in charge of Kristaps Porzingis’ development, sees a do-everything-on-offense big man, a cross between Dirk Nowitzki and Pau Gasol.

However, in a rare interview, Rambis also made the argument that the skinny 20-year-old could be better served coming off the bench as a rookie. The Knicks open the preseason schedule Wednesday at the Garden against Brazil’s Bauru club, and the faithful hope Porzingis starts alongside center Robin Lopez and Carmelo Anthony. No decision has been made, but sources indicate Phil Jackson hopes it happens, even if the team president envisions Porzingis playing no more than 20 or so minutes per game.

http://nypost.com/2015/10/05/why-tremendous-dangerous-porzingis-may-not-start-rambis/

THATS EXACTLY MY POINT, if it was up to rambis, KP would have started the season off the bench, but fisher saw enough to make him a starter, and h was right.

Rambis did not say that he would have started KP off the bench if he was coach.

“Sometimes it’s better to bring guys off the bench,’’ Rambis said. “I’m not saying that’s what we decided on. [But] to get a feel for the game, to watch a little bit as games go on. Sometimes the matchups are a little better on the second unit. We haven’t really discussed who the starters are. With our team, the amount of talent we have, that might change from game to game, too.’’

He was just riffing about the possibilities and advantages of doing so. Did you see the part where he also added: I’m not saying that’s what we decided on.

martin wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/NBAFLASHNEWS/status/730879602999083010

Hopefully there is just a small glitch. Deals can't be signed now.

you sir are correct and Lewis from Post is here to back you up on that.

http://nypost.com/2016/05/14/analysis-of-knicks-stashed-power-big-man-who-may-be-on-way/

Spanish outlet Encestando reports the Knicks are set to hand last year’s second-round pick a four-year, $4.5 million deal. Even though his agent, Andy Miller, told The Post, “There is no validity to the report,” that could be because the Knicks have to wait until July 7 to offer him a deal formally. Hernangomez’s rejection of two extensions from Real Madrid implies he could be Garden-bound.

newyorknewyork wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

fishmike wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

martin wrote:

fishmike wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

fishmike wrote:one of the more touted players in EU. Read about the 4 attempts by his current team to extend him. Or just throw poop because he's a 2nd round Euro and that's enough info for you to work with. Seems like the only "facts" some can work with are the ones that come from Marc Berman

most knick fans are excited about willy actually

I agree. Just some grumpy guys with no info to add who seem to revel in pessimism and negativity. Guy is a touted prospect. Nobody is saying he's another KP, but a smart multi skilled bigman? Good shot at a rotation player? I think its safe to project him as a rotation guy (career wise, not rookie). Question is will be an end of rotation bench guy or a starter/core player type? Maybe he's like Kyle OQuinn. Maybe he's like Marc Gasol. Time will tell. The intel however is very positive (if you actually choose to look at it)

This. I am tired of it. I'm all for differing opinions; add some meat into your opinion and we all enjoy the back and forth.

Willy was traded for 2 future round picks. Some have said if he was drafted this year he would go in the 20's, someone else's opinion.

Every pick from #1 on down can fail and fail spectacularly, we all know that.

If all you add is pessimism all the time, it turns into trolling and we all got better things to do.

We've all been Knicks fans for a loooooong time. We are all aware of the possible negatives. None of the pessimism is ground breaking stuff. The fans usually on the positive side tend to be the ones that don't care about being right or wrong. Only looking for reasons Y a player COULD work out or why a situation COULD work out in a positive manner. The ones that have more of a negative view tend to be fans that care more about being right or wrong. And if you choose the negative route odds are you will be more right then wrong since odds are always in the favor of the negative result.

I have a positive view of Hernangomez and KP and Grant and Wroten and I'm excited to see if they can improve and can sign players this summer. I like Rolo and Melo and DWill and even kinda like Afflalo sometimes.

That said, can't I still be pissed off about the coaching search and the way it is being handled? The only other time I've been very outspokenly negative was about the way the Jeremy Lin situation was handled. I was roasted then for my "constant negativity" and for suggesting that Melo didn't want him back when I couldn't possibly know - then ESPN reported a few months later that Melo wanted no part of Lin and that was part of why Lin wasn't brought back. I'm getting the same **** now when it is obvious there's a power struggle between Melo and Phil over who the head coach will be - and frankly that's ****ing interesting to talk about. I left the board for over a year before when the Lin **** went down, I'm on the verge of leaving again.

Being able to talk about the team means being able to praise the stuff you like and bitch about the stuff that pisses you off. It doesn't matter in the end, none of it matters, it's ****ing sports and entertainment. But you're allowed to get pissed off about sports and entertainment, no? I respect a lot of guys here, but really some of you "positive" fans are just as stubborn and repetitive and say the same **** with no evidence as some of the so called "negative" ones. The way you dudes gang up on anyone who expresses a view that all is not well and something may be going on behind the scenes to cause it... it just kinda sucks. For the first time I registered at a different site to talk about the Knicks and I've been going there more often. I like a lot of posters here, but really some of the way y'all protect Phil and act like we can't criticize anything he's done... I mean... I dunno, whatever. The way you respond to the supposed "negativity" here is in fact negative in itself and creates a sort of toxic loop. It's not cool. I'll miss some of you dudes, but I won't miss the concern trolling of any negative thought I have about how Phil is doing his job.

Dude, I just said something similar, I just don't get it. I got killed for posting negative comments on fisher like I didn't know what I was talking about, and low and behold he gets fired, so obviously I knew something wasn't right.

Now I'm getting killed because I absolute think Rambis is the worse option as a head coach, and apparently I don't know what I'm talking about...LIKE WTF, it ridiculous.

There isn't a person on the planet(other then phil) that would pick rambis over any current available coach,, so why are they acting like what im saying is completely outrageous.

you get killed for making stuff up. You are the exact guy I mentioned in my response to him.

SO I WAS MAking up all the ridiculous moves fisher was doing, im making up that the fact that rambis is not a good head coach.. Dude this stuff is printed in the paper every single day, but of course there making stuff up..you need to point out particulars, because I don't make stuff up to prove a point, if you call me out on something that I miss, prove it, and I never have a problem admitting to being wrong...the fck..im human, with no agenda... so be it, I don't get upset or defensive, were talking sports, not religion.

This thread was about Willie and you added a comment about how we can't trust thisbcoaxhing staff to develop him. As you can see you injected your hate for Rambis as our coach in a thread that wasn't about Rambis. And due to you not like g Rambis as a coach you all of a sudden down grade his ability to develop a player like Willie. Yet there isn't much evidence that suggest that he sucks at developing players. He has been and assistant on championship teams. And as a head coach Kevin Love broke out in his 3rd yr with Rambis as head coach. When a person can't bring any positives to the equation then thats usually a sign that agenda is getting the best of you.

And Rambis usually works with the big men on every team he's coached with as an assistant or head coach.

knicks1248 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

fishmike wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

martin wrote:

fishmike wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

fishmike wrote:one of the more touted players in EU. Read about the 4 attempts by his current team to extend him. Or just throw poop because he's a 2nd round Euro and that's enough info for you to work with. Seems like the only "facts" some can work with are the ones that come from Marc Berman

most knick fans are excited about willy actually

I agree. Just some grumpy guys with no info to add who seem to revel in pessimism and negativity. Guy is a touted prospect. Nobody is saying he's another KP, but a smart multi skilled bigman? Good shot at a rotation player? I think its safe to project him as a rotation guy (career wise, not rookie). Question is will be an end of rotation bench guy or a starter/core player type? Maybe he's like Kyle OQuinn. Maybe he's like Marc Gasol. Time will tell. The intel however is very positive (if you actually choose to look at it)

This. I am tired of it. I'm all for differing opinions; add some meat into your opinion and we all enjoy the back and forth.

Willy was traded for 2 future round picks. Some have said if he was drafted this year he would go in the 20's, someone else's opinion.

Every pick from #1 on down can fail and fail spectacularly, we all know that.

If all you add is pessimism all the time, it turns into trolling and we all got better things to do.

We've all been Knicks fans for a loooooong time. We are all aware of the possible negatives. None of the pessimism is ground breaking stuff. The fans usually on the positive side tend to be the ones that don't care about being right or wrong. Only looking for reasons Y a player COULD work out or why a situation COULD work out in a positive manner. The ones that have more of a negative view tend to be fans that care more about being right or wrong. And if you choose the negative route odds are you will be more right then wrong since odds are always in the favor of the negative result.

I have a positive view of Hernangomez and KP and Grant and Wroten and I'm excited to see if they can improve and can sign players this summer. I like Rolo and Melo and DWill and even kinda like Afflalo sometimes.

That said, can't I still be pissed off about the coaching search and the way it is being handled? The only other time I've been very outspokenly negative was about the way the Jeremy Lin situation was handled. I was roasted then for my "constant negativity" and for suggesting that Melo didn't want him back when I couldn't possibly know - then ESPN reported a few months later that Melo wanted no part of Lin and that was part of why Lin wasn't brought back. I'm getting the same **** now when it is obvious there's a power struggle between Melo and Phil over who the head coach will be - and frankly that's ****ing interesting to talk about. I left the board for over a year before when the Lin **** went down, I'm on the verge of leaving again.

Being able to talk about the team means being able to praise the stuff you like and bitch about the stuff that pisses you off. It doesn't matter in the end, none of it matters, it's ****ing sports and entertainment. But you're allowed to get pissed off about sports and entertainment, no? I respect a lot of guys here, but really some of you "positive" fans are just as stubborn and repetitive and say the same **** with no evidence as some of the so called "negative" ones. The way you dudes gang up on anyone who expresses a view that all is not well and something may be going on behind the scenes to cause it... it just kinda sucks. For the first time I registered at a different site to talk about the Knicks and I've been going there more often. I like a lot of posters here, but really some of the way y'all protect Phil and act like we can't criticize anything he's done... I mean... I dunno, whatever. The way you respond to the supposed "negativity" here is in fact negative in itself and creates a sort of toxic loop. It's not cool. I'll miss some of you dudes, but I won't miss the concern trolling of any negative thought I have about how Phil is doing his job.

Dude, I just said something similar, I just don't get it. I got killed for posting negative comments on fisher like I didn't know what I was talking about, and low and behold he gets fired, so obviously I knew something wasn't right.

Now I'm getting killed because I absolute think Rambis is the worse option as a head coach, and apparently I don't know what I'm talking about...LIKE WTF, it ridiculous.

There isn't a person on the planet(other then phil) that would pick rambis over any current available coach,, so why are they acting like what im saying is completely outrageous.

you get killed for making stuff up. You are the exact guy I mentioned in my response to him.

SO I WAS MAking up all the ridiculous moves fisher was doing, im making up that the fact that rambis is not a good head coach.. Dude this stuff is printed in the paper every single day, but of course there making stuff up..you need to point out particulars, because I don't make stuff up to prove a point, if you call me out on something that I miss, prove it, and I never have a problem admitting to being wrong...the fck..im human, with no agenda... so be it, I don't get upset or defensive, were talking sports, not religion.

This thread was about Willie and you added a comment about how we can't trust thisbcoaxhing staff to develop him. As you can see you injected your hate for Rambis as our coach in a thread that wasn't about Rambis. And due to you not like g Rambis as a coach you all of a sudden down grade his ability to develop a player like Willie. Yet there isn't much evidence that suggest that he sucks at developing players. He has been and assistant on championship teams. And as a head coach Kevin Love broke out in his 3rd yr with Rambis as head coach. When a person can't bring any positives to the equation then thats usually a sign that agenda is getting the best of you.

I just look at guys like galloway and early who got worse. rambis tried to turn skinny as KP in to a post player, like he was ready for that, he benched dwill and grant, and they had very erratic season base on there playing time and triangle issues.

Rambis only focus is the triangle, nothing else matters except perfecting it by any means. Phil knows this. I know kp will be good regardless of rambis,h The fact that none of the young players we have credited rambis for their growth is a tell tell sign. Kp credits melo for his growth.

When I read that there was a game in which mini gave up a 120 points and scored 80,and the only thing rambis talked about was the triangle after the game, I had to smdh. Love was at war with rambis over his usage and if you want, there's plenty of articles on the subject.

So with that kind of history, of course I have to question not only his ability to develop WILLY, but his overall reltionship with young players.

This is so wrong. J.Grant was erratic and inconsistent and him getting inconsistent playing time was his own fault because he was playing badly with his turnovers, shooting, missing easy layups and stopping his dribble when he didn't need to which would put himself in trouble and D.Williams was also inconsistent and has been inconsistent his entire career. He would come out and have a good game and then would get minutes the following game and look lost out there just like he's done his entire career so you're really just reaching for reasons to hate on Rambis which is hilarious now please tell me which parts of what i just said about Grant and DW isn't true and i'll wait?? I do like how Grant and DW played to finish the year but it's sooooo much different playing when the games don't matter and everyone knows they don't matter. I do hope DW re-signs and actually would love it if he didn't use his opt out but that's not happening.

newyorker4ever wrote:Well since this is a thread that's supposed to be about Willy but was again hijacked by the Rambis haters here's a good article about Willy.

http://www.chatsports.com/new-york-knicks/a/source/analysis-of-knicks-stashed-power-big-man-who-may-be-on-way-12477287

Good stuff from Fran Fraschilla, who likes Willy. Also good to note that KP like him as a player as well. If Willy wasn't any good I don't think he'd be quite as excited about him coming.

“It’s great. He’s a terrific investment. Whether he comes over this year or next, you’re still talking about a young big guy [who can play],” Fraschilla told The Post. “The way I look at the ACB [League], if guys are playing in the ACC, in the Big Ten, that’s the equivalent of Double-A baseball. The ACB is Triple-A.

“He’s playing a lot higher level than your typical 22-year-old. He’s developing in a good league where the adjustment will be less pronounced than a college player’s. He’s playing at a much better level. The competition’s higher. These are professional players, grown men, in some cases former NBA players.”

Fraschilla, who coached St. John’s and Manhattan to the NCAA tourney, is among the foremost experts on international prospects. An ESPN analyst who covers the NBA draft, with a focus on foreign players, Fraschilla was among the first to start the Porzingis hype train.

He won’t put the same expectations on Hernangomez but said the 6-foot-11, 255-pounder — who doesn’t turn 22 until May 27 — was an ideal long-term buy.

“He’s a big-body kid. He was bigger and thicker — not bigger in terms of height but a wider, broader-shouldered player than Zinger. He was more of a power player, an around-the-basket guy, but he can play,” Fraschilla said. “Willy is just a good, young, solid big-man prospect, a four-man physical type of player. That’s what he was a year ago. … If you look in the dictionary under draft and stash, you’d see a picture of Willy. He’s an ideal guy to get your hands on and let him marinate in the ACB.”

That is exactly what the Knicks did. They used the fourth pick in the draft on Porzingis, then made a deal with the 76ers for the rights to Hernangomez, his Baloncesto Sevilla teammate. They watched the latter move back to Real Madrid from his loan to Sevilla, and average 6.7 points and 3.8 rebounds in league play, shooting a scalding 67.7 percent from the floor.

Now the Knicks and Porzingis are hoping for a reunion, with Porzingis expected to visit with Hernangomez during his offseason European trip. It would require the mid-level exception or cap space to ink Hernangomez for a deal over two years. But with big men Kevin Seraphin and Lou Amundson free agents July 1 and Derrick Williams having a player option, he’d quickly find a role.

“I hope he’s here. If it was in my hands, I’d obviously want him to be here. I think he really wants to be here. I’m not sure — both sides have to make a decision. I’d really love to see him here,” Porzingis told The Post in February. “He’s big, very good hook shot with both hands. He really knows how to hold his defender. He’s really good in the post. The triangle offense would fit very well.”

Hernangomez is regarded as strong, agile and a good rebounder if not the most disciplined defender or explosive leaper. And basketball is in his DNA.

His mother, Margarita Draeger, starred on the Spanish National Team in the 1992 Olympics, father Guillermo Hernangomez Heredero played pro in the ACB, 20-year-old brother Juan is a top NBA prospect at Movistar Estudiantes whom Fraschilla likened to Jonas Jerebko, and sister Andrea plays for the Estudiantes Junior team.

“It’s a basketball family,’’ Fraschilla said.