fishmike wrote:mreinman wrote:fishmike wrote:mreinman wrote:fishmike wrote:mreinman wrote:fishmike wrote:mreinman wrote:fishmike wrote:mreinman wrote:nixluva wrote:EnySpree wrote:Phil has run the triangle at least 4-5 different ways over his career. He's adjusted to his personal. It's ignorant to suggest otherwise. He's won 11 championships. More than any coach in history. He's beat all of the great coaches out there countless times.
It amazes me how NY Media and some fans can talk crap about people who have accomplished so much. We were DYING for a legit Basketball mind and someone who has won in the NBA. Soon as we get that man after just 2 seasons people are ready to run him out on a rail. Don't even let him finish what he's started. NO, just complain as loud as possible until he quits or Dolan decides to fire him. If that happens, then what? It only sets the franchise back again.
it amazed you (over and over and over again) how fans and the media picked the knicks to win so few games. You should stopped being so amazed and perhaps understand that there is another side to an argument / position (minimally).
you think they were picked to win 35ish games because they run the triangle and teams cant win that system? Or do you think they picked a low win total because of the roster and the talent on it? Or if its a combo of both Im curious how you weight it... say we stink 80% because of the system and 20% because of the players. Something like that?
we stink cause we have sh1tty players mostly and because we have done a week job so far developing and locking up young players. Its a five year process so he has time to right the ship. Lets see how he does. I have mixed confidence in him.
I half agree. Not sure why you are down on the development part. Certainly Phil has shown a commitment to adding young players and developing them. I get that none have been spectacular after KP, but the commitment is there. LG, Grant, Early, Thanasis... I don't expect them all to be rotation players but a couple will. KOQ and DWill are two FAs signed at 24 years old. Certainly time will tell but there is clear commitment to get younger and take long looks at young players. Something most around here have pined for for years.
Galloway is pretty awful, Grant has been awful, Early has been a complete no show, thanasis has basically got zero playing time with the squad to show if he is anything. Koq sucks - like really really sucks. Dwil is a FA. This is not a pretty picture for our youth development.
LT our only bright spot is not locked up ... again not pretty
typical Knick fan... guy isn't a star in his rookie season so he sucks.
who are you talking about that I said "sucks"?
all of em. None of these guys are getting better? Go on record now and tell me Thanasis, Early, Grant and Galloway wont be good rotation players in the league.
I really like early and have been holding out hope but not sure how much longer I can ... will still hope for this season and I really hope that he gets some significant PT to show if yay or nay.
Grant has some potential but he can easily bust if he can't develop a consistent shot and better decision making.
Koq sucks, its official!
thanasis, who knows ... we have not seen him.
Galloway had me really excited but I just don't think that he has what it takes. He can be some end of the bench value I guess.
Is this progress that you are happy with as far as development?
in 2 years yes. The #1 thing is the commitment to develop, and under Phil the Knicks are showing that. We are showing a commitment to the draft and the Dleague we have not seen.. possibly ever. So yes I am happy. KP is certainly part of that as well. So is Willy who looks like a nice prospect as well. After 2 years and lottery pick what are you expectations as far as player development?
I would like to have one young guy signed that has shown us that he has really nice potential.
I would have liked to see many players getting PT in a throwaway season. Who got PT? Who did we try out from the D-League? What guards did we sign and play on 10 day contracts?
LT and DWIL showed nice improvement but they are not ours so that is a partial fail too.
So we signed Lou, Dwil, LT, Seraphin, Koq, AA, Rolo. Rolo worked out (though we did not develop him, he was already this good) and we get to keep em ... what have we from the rest of the bunch?
Willy? There are 100 Willy's ... what has he shown us? For now, he is still just a second rounder that like the rest of them won't pan out. Let him first actually play before we think that he is anything more.
Wroten? That's pretty desperate that this is what we have to be excited about. I am not against bringing him here, we should have had 10 similar players here that we could have taken a look at. We saw none. Jimmer who everyone was gaga about had a 4 second cameo to coincide with the fisher canning.
We are excited that we have a D'League? Yay! many teams have a d-league team. why did we not see anyone brought up other than a few meaningless minutes from Thanasis.
So in my opinion, he failed miserably so far at player development. How anyone can't paint this pretty somehow is beyond me. How about the year before? Who did we develop that year? Like nobody?
so here is what phil is thinking ....
