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nixluva wrote:Knicks have some good options with Blatt, Thibs, Messina and Mark Jackson to name a few. It certainly not a situation where the team has no options, so why panic about it right now. Let the process play out. Even if Phil did stick with Rambis, it's not the end of the world as some people try to make it out to be.

This will be another important summer and there is a lot that can happen between now and the start of Training Camp.

why would keeping rambis be a good thing?

If your willing to keep rambis as a head coach, then martin, chuck, dj music, or anyone on this board can do just as good of job if not better.

In other words pick the worse coach in the league, and make him our head coach, because apparently there coach credentials/resume don't matter to you

Rambis may or may not be a good head coach. But in Minny and here in NY its not like he has been put in position to succeed. The 2 teams he coached in Minny talent was was pretty crap other then Kevin Love and if you consider Beasley that. They did score the 10th most points per game in the league and held the fast pace his 2nd yr. Love, Beasley, Ridnour all had pretty good statistical yrs. There defense sucked though.

In the Tri it has shown to be the most successful with ball movers at the forward position. Can't say that Minny supplied Rambis with those tools.

In other words, he failed to adjust to his roster, and continued banging home a system that not only didn't fit, but made his players look like garbage...

Don't know enough about what he tried to do in Minny. But again in his second yr the team scored the 10th most points per game in the NBA and had the leagues fastest pace. Kevin Love averaged 20.6 15.2 rebs on 47fg% and 41% from 3 with 2.5ast per game. Beasley avearged 19.2pts 5.7rebs 2.2ast 45fg% 36$ from 3. Ridnour averaged 11.8 5.4ast 46.6fg% 44% from 3 with 1.3stls.

Ridnour was the oldest player on the team at age 29. And that was Beasley's best season of his career.

The other players on the team were guys like Wesley Johnson, Corey Brewer, Darko Milicic, Anthony Tolliver. They lost games due to poor defense.

The problem with a coach like ramby is that, you will get individual success from a few bigs on the roster, and a player here and there on the roster.

His problem is preparation,in game adjustments, and rotations, the 3 major categories for a head coach. ramby does have a solid roll on any coaching staff, but he is no where near head coach level.

I don't know if Rambis is a good coach or not but my main point here is that he hasnt been given much to work with in his 2.25 yrs coaching.

Flynn Ridnour Calderon for a couple games Grant. Wesley Johnson Affalo Sasha have been his Guards. If Minny drafted Steph Curry and Derozen Instead of Flynn and Rubio...

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4/13/2016  12:39 PM
newyorknewyork wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
nixluva wrote:Knicks have some good options with Blatt, Thibs, Messina and Mark Jackson to name a few. It certainly not a situation where the team has no options, so why panic about it right now. Let the process play out. Even if Phil did stick with Rambis, it's not the end of the world as some people try to make it out to be.

This will be another important summer and there is a lot that can happen between now and the start of Training Camp.

why would keeping rambis be a good thing?

If your willing to keep rambis as a head coach, then martin, chuck, dj music, or anyone on this board can do just as good of job if not better.

In other words pick the worse coach in the league, and make him our head coach, because apparently there coach credentials/resume don't matter to you

Rambis may or may not be a good head coach. But in Minny and here in NY its not like he has been put in position to succeed. The 2 teams he coached in Minny talent was was pretty crap other then Kevin Love and if you consider Beasley that. They did score the 10th most points per game in the league and held the fast pace his 2nd yr. Love, Beasley, Ridnour all had pretty good statistical yrs. There defense sucked though.

In the Tri it has shown to be the most successful with ball movers at the forward position. Can't say that Minny supplied Rambis with those tools.

In other words, he failed to adjust to his roster, and continued banging home a system that not only didn't fit, but made his players look like garbage...

Don't know enough about what he tried to do in Minny. But again in his second yr the team scored the 10th most points per game in the NBA and had the leagues fastest pace. Kevin Love averaged 20.6 15.2 rebs on 47fg% and 41% from 3 with 2.5ast per game. Beasley avearged 19.2pts 5.7rebs 2.2ast 45fg% 36$ from 3. Ridnour averaged 11.8 5.4ast 46.6fg% 44% from 3 with 1.3stls.

Ridnour was the oldest player on the team at age 29. And that was Beasley's best season of his career.

The other players on the team were guys like Wesley Johnson, Corey Brewer, Darko Milicic, Anthony Tolliver. They lost games due to poor defense.

The problem with a coach like ramby is that, you will get individual success from a few bigs on the roster, and a player here and there on the roster.

His problem is preparation,in game adjustments, and rotations, the 3 major categories for a head coach. ramby does have a solid roll on any coaching staff, but he is no where near head coach level.

I don't know if Rambis is a good coach or not but my main point here is that he hasnt been given much to work with in his 2.25 yrs coaching.

Flynn Ridnour Calderon for a couple games Grant. Wesley Johnson Affalo Sasha have been his Guards. If Minny drafted Steph Curry and Derozen Instead of Flynn and Rubio...

When he had the short stint as head coach for LA with kobe shaq, he got swept in the 1st rnd, the next yr phil took over with the same roster and won the championship

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4/13/2016  12:49 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
nixluva wrote:Knicks have some good options with Blatt, Thibs, Messina and Mark Jackson to name a few. It certainly not a situation where the team has no options, so why panic about it right now. Let the process play out. Even if Phil did stick with Rambis, it's not the end of the world as some people try to make it out to be.

This will be another important summer and there is a lot that can happen between now and the start of Training Camp.

why would keeping rambis be a good thing?

If your willing to keep rambis as a head coach, then martin, chuck, dj music, or anyone on this board can do just as good of job if not better.

In other words pick the worse coach in the league, and make him our head coach, because apparently there coach credentials/resume don't matter to you

Rambis may or may not be a good head coach. But in Minny and here in NY its not like he has been put in position to succeed. The 2 teams he coached in Minny talent was was pretty crap other then Kevin Love and if you consider Beasley that. They did score the 10th most points per game in the league and held the fast pace his 2nd yr. Love, Beasley, Ridnour all had pretty good statistical yrs. There defense sucked though.

In the Tri it has shown to be the most successful with ball movers at the forward position. Can't say that Minny supplied Rambis with those tools.

In other words, he failed to adjust to his roster, and continued banging home a system that not only didn't fit, but made his players look like garbage...

Don't know enough about what he tried to do in Minny. But again in his second yr the team scored the 10th most points per game in the NBA and had the leagues fastest pace. Kevin Love averaged 20.6 15.2 rebs on 47fg% and 41% from 3 with 2.5ast per game. Beasley avearged 19.2pts 5.7rebs 2.2ast 45fg% 36$ from 3. Ridnour averaged 11.8 5.4ast 46.6fg% 44% from 3 with 1.3stls.

Ridnour was the oldest player on the team at age 29. And that was Beasley's best season of his career.

The other players on the team were guys like Wesley Johnson, Corey Brewer, Darko Milicic, Anthony Tolliver. They lost games due to poor defense.

The problem with a coach like ramby is that, you will get individual success from a few bigs on the roster, and a player here and there on the roster.

His problem is preparation,in game adjustments, and rotations, the 3 major categories for a head coach. ramby does have a solid roll on any coaching staff, but he is no where near head coach level.

I don't know if Rambis is a good coach or not but my main point here is that he hasnt been given much to work with in his 2.25 yrs coaching.

Flynn Ridnour Calderon for a couple games Grant. Wesley Johnson Affalo Sasha have been his Guards. If Minny drafted Steph Curry and Derozen Instead of Flynn and Rubio...

When he had the short stint as head coach for LA with kobe shaq, he got swept in the 1st rnd, the next yr phil took over with the same roster and won the championship

You keep saying swept in 1st round. It was second round, they beat Houston 3-1 in first round. Timmy's second year in the league when the DRob still had a lot of legs left in him. Oh, and Spurs won that year, so they were no pushover's

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4/13/2016  1:01 PM
Phil is a great coach. Didn't Kobe enter his 3rd year in the NBA when Phil took over?
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4/13/2016  1:12 PM
martin wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
nixluva wrote:Knicks have some good options with Blatt, Thibs, Messina and Mark Jackson to name a few. It certainly not a situation where the team has no options, so why panic about it right now. Let the process play out. Even if Phil did stick with Rambis, it's not the end of the world as some people try to make it out to be.

This will be another important summer and there is a lot that can happen between now and the start of Training Camp.

why would keeping rambis be a good thing?

If your willing to keep rambis as a head coach, then martin, chuck, dj music, or anyone on this board can do just as good of job if not better.

In other words pick the worse coach in the league, and make him our head coach, because apparently there coach credentials/resume don't matter to you

Rambis may or may not be a good head coach. But in Minny and here in NY its not like he has been put in position to succeed. The 2 teams he coached in Minny talent was was pretty crap other then Kevin Love and if you consider Beasley that. They did score the 10th most points per game in the league and held the fast pace his 2nd yr. Love, Beasley, Ridnour all had pretty good statistical yrs. There defense sucked though.

In the Tri it has shown to be the most successful with ball movers at the forward position. Can't say that Minny supplied Rambis with those tools.

In other words, he failed to adjust to his roster, and continued banging home a system that not only didn't fit, but made his players look like garbage...

Don't know enough about what he tried to do in Minny. But again in his second yr the team scored the 10th most points per game in the NBA and had the leagues fastest pace. Kevin Love averaged 20.6 15.2 rebs on 47fg% and 41% from 3 with 2.5ast per game. Beasley avearged 19.2pts 5.7rebs 2.2ast 45fg% 36$ from 3. Ridnour averaged 11.8 5.4ast 46.6fg% 44% from 3 with 1.3stls.

Ridnour was the oldest player on the team at age 29. And that was Beasley's best season of his career.

The other players on the team were guys like Wesley Johnson, Corey Brewer, Darko Milicic, Anthony Tolliver. They lost games due to poor defense.

The problem with a coach like ramby is that, you will get individual success from a few bigs on the roster, and a player here and there on the roster.

His problem is preparation,in game adjustments, and rotations, the 3 major categories for a head coach. ramby does have a solid roll on any coaching staff, but he is no where near head coach level.

I don't know if Rambis is a good coach or not but my main point here is that he hasnt been given much to work with in his 2.25 yrs coaching.

Flynn Ridnour Calderon for a couple games Grant. Wesley Johnson Affalo Sasha have been his Guards. If Minny drafted Steph Curry and Derozen Instead of Flynn and Rubio...

When he had the short stint as head coach for LA with kobe shaq, he got swept in the 1st rnd, the next yr phil took over with the same roster and won the championship

You keep saying swept in 1st round. It was second round, they beat Houston 3-1 in first round. Timmy's second year in the league when the DRob still had a lot of legs left in him. Oh, and Spurs won that year, so they were no pushover's

This is not the first time this guy has made stuff up just to try and prove his point. Google it before you post dude

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4/13/2016  1:29 PM
martin wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
nixluva wrote:Knicks have some good options with Blatt, Thibs, Messina and Mark Jackson to name a few. It certainly not a situation where the team has no options, so why panic about it right now. Let the process play out. Even if Phil did stick with Rambis, it's not the end of the world as some people try to make it out to be.

This will be another important summer and there is a lot that can happen between now and the start of Training Camp.

why would keeping rambis be a good thing?

If your willing to keep rambis as a head coach, then martin, chuck, dj music, or anyone on this board can do just as good of job if not better.

In other words pick the worse coach in the league, and make him our head coach, because apparently there coach credentials/resume don't matter to you

Rambis may or may not be a good head coach. But in Minny and here in NY its not like he has been put in position to succeed. The 2 teams he coached in Minny talent was was pretty crap other then Kevin Love and if you consider Beasley that. They did score the 10th most points per game in the league and held the fast pace his 2nd yr. Love, Beasley, Ridnour all had pretty good statistical yrs. There defense sucked though.

In the Tri it has shown to be the most successful with ball movers at the forward position. Can't say that Minny supplied Rambis with those tools.

In other words, he failed to adjust to his roster, and continued banging home a system that not only didn't fit, but made his players look like garbage...

Don't know enough about what he tried to do in Minny. But again in his second yr the team scored the 10th most points per game in the NBA and had the leagues fastest pace. Kevin Love averaged 20.6 15.2 rebs on 47fg% and 41% from 3 with 2.5ast per game. Beasley avearged 19.2pts 5.7rebs 2.2ast 45fg% 36$ from 3. Ridnour averaged 11.8 5.4ast 46.6fg% 44% from 3 with 1.3stls.

Ridnour was the oldest player on the team at age 29. And that was Beasley's best season of his career.

The other players on the team were guys like Wesley Johnson, Corey Brewer, Darko Milicic, Anthony Tolliver. They lost games due to poor defense.

The problem with a coach like ramby is that, you will get individual success from a few bigs on the roster, and a player here and there on the roster.

His problem is preparation,in game adjustments, and rotations, the 3 major categories for a head coach. ramby does have a solid roll on any coaching staff, but he is no where near head coach level.

I don't know if Rambis is a good coach or not but my main point here is that he hasnt been given much to work with in his 2.25 yrs coaching.

Flynn Ridnour Calderon for a couple games Grant. Wesley Johnson Affalo Sasha have been his Guards. If Minny drafted Steph Curry and Derozen Instead of Flynn and Rubio...

When he had the short stint as head coach for LA with kobe shaq, he got swept in the 1st rnd, the next yr phil took over with the same roster and won the championship

You keep saying swept in 1st round. It was second round, they beat Houston 3-1 in first round. Timmy's second year in the league when the DRob still had a lot of legs left in him. Oh, and Spurs won that year, so they were no pushover's

Obviously you think rambis is championship coach, or a adequate replacement for fisher, and I will respect that. I don't, and its not just because of the rosters he's had, Its his overall demeanor, and no one is praising him on the roster. No one on the roster is given him a strong endorsement.
When players are not a 100% on board, they don't play hard for you.

Even with Phil being more involved, he still struggle worse than fisher, we beat 1 team over 500 since he took over,

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4/13/2016  1:35 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/13/2016  1:36 PM
EnySpree wrote:
martin wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
nixluva wrote:Knicks have some good options with Blatt, Thibs, Messina and Mark Jackson to name a few. It certainly not a situation where the team has no options, so why panic about it right now. Let the process play out. Even if Phil did stick with Rambis, it's not the end of the world as some people try to make it out to be.

This will be another important summer and there is a lot that can happen between now and the start of Training Camp.

why would keeping rambis be a good thing?

If your willing to keep rambis as a head coach, then martin, chuck, dj music, or anyone on this board can do just as good of job if not better.

In other words pick the worse coach in the league, and make him our head coach, because apparently there coach credentials/resume don't matter to you

Rambis may or may not be a good head coach. But in Minny and here in NY its not like he has been put in position to succeed. The 2 teams he coached in Minny talent was was pretty crap other then Kevin Love and if you consider Beasley that. They did score the 10th most points per game in the league and held the fast pace his 2nd yr. Love, Beasley, Ridnour all had pretty good statistical yrs. There defense sucked though.

In the Tri it has shown to be the most successful with ball movers at the forward position. Can't say that Minny supplied Rambis with those tools.

In other words, he failed to adjust to his roster, and continued banging home a system that not only didn't fit, but made his players look like garbage...

Don't know enough about what he tried to do in Minny. But again in his second yr the team scored the 10th most points per game in the NBA and had the leagues fastest pace. Kevin Love averaged 20.6 15.2 rebs on 47fg% and 41% from 3 with 2.5ast per game. Beasley avearged 19.2pts 5.7rebs 2.2ast 45fg% 36$ from 3. Ridnour averaged 11.8 5.4ast 46.6fg% 44% from 3 with 1.3stls.

Ridnour was the oldest player on the team at age 29. And that was Beasley's best season of his career.

The other players on the team were guys like Wesley Johnson, Corey Brewer, Darko Milicic, Anthony Tolliver. They lost games due to poor defense.

The problem with a coach like ramby is that, you will get individual success from a few bigs on the roster, and a player here and there on the roster.

His problem is preparation,in game adjustments, and rotations, the 3 major categories for a head coach. ramby does have a solid roll on any coaching staff, but he is no where near head coach level.

I don't know if Rambis is a good coach or not but my main point here is that he hasnt been given much to work with in his 2.25 yrs coaching.

Flynn Ridnour Calderon for a couple games Grant. Wesley Johnson Affalo Sasha have been his Guards. If Minny drafted Steph Curry and Derozen Instead of Flynn and Rubio...

When he had the short stint as head coach for LA with kobe shaq, he got swept in the 1st rnd, the next yr phil took over with the same roster and won the championship

You keep saying swept in 1st round. It was second round, they beat Houston 3-1 in first round. Timmy's second year in the league when the DRob still had a lot of legs left in him. Oh, and Spurs won that year, so they were no pushover's

This is not the first time this guy has made stuff up just to try and prove his point. Google it before you post dude


Give me one good reason you would extend rambis, You and I both both know he wouldn't Be here if it wasn't for Phil, He doesn't have the super all star roster, or triangle ready players, his proven that he can't do anything without it. He can not take a decent roster and elvate them to the next level,so if Phil doesn't make a massive up grade, were going to be in the same position next yr, and them Phil would look even more in ept

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4/13/2016  1:46 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
EnySpree wrote:
martin wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
nixluva wrote:Knicks have some good options with Blatt, Thibs, Messina and Mark Jackson to name a few. It certainly not a situation where the team has no options, so why panic about it right now. Let the process play out. Even if Phil did stick with Rambis, it's not the end of the world as some people try to make it out to be.

This will be another important summer and there is a lot that can happen between now and the start of Training Camp.

why would keeping rambis be a good thing?

If your willing to keep rambis as a head coach, then martin, chuck, dj music, or anyone on this board can do just as good of job if not better.

In other words pick the worse coach in the league, and make him our head coach, because apparently there coach credentials/resume don't matter to you

Rambis may or may not be a good head coach. But in Minny and here in NY its not like he has been put in position to succeed. The 2 teams he coached in Minny talent was was pretty crap other then Kevin Love and if you consider Beasley that. They did score the 10th most points per game in the league and held the fast pace his 2nd yr. Love, Beasley, Ridnour all had pretty good statistical yrs. There defense sucked though.

In the Tri it has shown to be the most successful with ball movers at the forward position. Can't say that Minny supplied Rambis with those tools.

In other words, he failed to adjust to his roster, and continued banging home a system that not only didn't fit, but made his players look like garbage...

Don't know enough about what he tried to do in Minny. But again in his second yr the team scored the 10th most points per game in the NBA and had the leagues fastest pace. Kevin Love averaged 20.6 15.2 rebs on 47fg% and 41% from 3 with 2.5ast per game. Beasley avearged 19.2pts 5.7rebs 2.2ast 45fg% 36$ from 3. Ridnour averaged 11.8 5.4ast 46.6fg% 44% from 3 with 1.3stls.

Ridnour was the oldest player on the team at age 29. And that was Beasley's best season of his career.

The other players on the team were guys like Wesley Johnson, Corey Brewer, Darko Milicic, Anthony Tolliver. They lost games due to poor defense.

The problem with a coach like ramby is that, you will get individual success from a few bigs on the roster, and a player here and there on the roster.

His problem is preparation,in game adjustments, and rotations, the 3 major categories for a head coach. ramby does have a solid roll on any coaching staff, but he is no where near head coach level.

I don't know if Rambis is a good coach or not but my main point here is that he hasnt been given much to work with in his 2.25 yrs coaching.

Flynn Ridnour Calderon for a couple games Grant. Wesley Johnson Affalo Sasha have been his Guards. If Minny drafted Steph Curry and Derozen Instead of Flynn and Rubio...

When he had the short stint as head coach for LA with kobe shaq, he got swept in the 1st rnd, the next yr phil took over with the same roster and won the championship

You keep saying swept in 1st round. It was second round, they beat Houston 3-1 in first round. Timmy's second year in the league when the DRob still had a lot of legs left in him. Oh, and Spurs won that year, so they were no pushover's

This is not the first time this guy has made stuff up just to try and prove his point. Google it before you post dude


Give me one good reason you would extend rambis, You and I both both know he wouldn't Be here if it wasn't for Phil, He doesn't have the super all star roster, or triangle ready players, his proven that he can't do anything without it. He can not take a decent roster and elvate them to the next level,so if Phil doesn't make a massive up grade, were going to be in the same position next yr, and them Phil would look even more in ept

So you're saying the current Knicks roster wouldn't be 32-50 under your favorite coach? Your favorite coach is going to inspire guys to what 37-45? 40-42? Or do you think the wonderful wizard of Oz Thibbs or Mark Jackson or Luke Walton will make this same team 45-37? 50-32? If you believe that then stop trashing Rambis and get on the tickle train to starphuchville and just make a thread about those coaches.

Nothing wrong with preferring a certain coach, but don't lie to try to prove a point when you do not have a point.

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EnySpree wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
EnySpree wrote:
martin wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
nixluva wrote:Knicks have some good options with Blatt, Thibs, Messina and Mark Jackson to name a few. It certainly not a situation where the team has no options, so why panic about it right now. Let the process play out. Even if Phil did stick with Rambis, it's not the end of the world as some people try to make it out to be.

This will be another important summer and there is a lot that can happen between now and the start of Training Camp.

why would keeping rambis be a good thing?

If your willing to keep rambis as a head coach, then martin, chuck, dj music, or anyone on this board can do just as good of job if not better.

In other words pick the worse coach in the league, and make him our head coach, because apparently there coach credentials/resume don't matter to you

Rambis may or may not be a good head coach. But in Minny and here in NY its not like he has been put in position to succeed. The 2 teams he coached in Minny talent was was pretty crap other then Kevin Love and if you consider Beasley that. They did score the 10th most points per game in the league and held the fast pace his 2nd yr. Love, Beasley, Ridnour all had pretty good statistical yrs. There defense sucked though.

In the Tri it has shown to be the most successful with ball movers at the forward position. Can't say that Minny supplied Rambis with those tools.

In other words, he failed to adjust to his roster, and continued banging home a system that not only didn't fit, but made his players look like garbage...

Don't know enough about what he tried to do in Minny. But again in his second yr the team scored the 10th most points per game in the NBA and had the leagues fastest pace. Kevin Love averaged 20.6 15.2 rebs on 47fg% and 41% from 3 with 2.5ast per game. Beasley avearged 19.2pts 5.7rebs 2.2ast 45fg% 36$ from 3. Ridnour averaged 11.8 5.4ast 46.6fg% 44% from 3 with 1.3stls.

Ridnour was the oldest player on the team at age 29. And that was Beasley's best season of his career.

The other players on the team were guys like Wesley Johnson, Corey Brewer, Darko Milicic, Anthony Tolliver. They lost games due to poor defense.

The problem with a coach like ramby is that, you will get individual success from a few bigs on the roster, and a player here and there on the roster.

His problem is preparation,in game adjustments, and rotations, the 3 major categories for a head coach. ramby does have a solid roll on any coaching staff, but he is no where near head coach level.

I don't know if Rambis is a good coach or not but my main point here is that he hasnt been given much to work with in his 2.25 yrs coaching.

Flynn Ridnour Calderon for a couple games Grant. Wesley Johnson Affalo Sasha have been his Guards. If Minny drafted Steph Curry and Derozen Instead of Flynn and Rubio...

When he had the short stint as head coach for LA with kobe shaq, he got swept in the 1st rnd, the next yr phil took over with the same roster and won the championship

You keep saying swept in 1st round. It was second round, they beat Houston 3-1 in first round. Timmy's second year in the league when the DRob still had a lot of legs left in him. Oh, and Spurs won that year, so they were no pushover's

This is not the first time this guy has made stuff up just to try and prove his point. Google it before you post dude


Give me one good reason you would extend rambis, You and I both both know he wouldn't Be here if it wasn't for Phil, He doesn't have the super all star roster, or triangle ready players, his proven that he can't do anything without it. He can not take a decent roster and elvate them to the next level,so if Phil doesn't make a massive up grade, were going to be in the same position next yr, and them Phil would look even more in ept

So you're saying the current Knicks roster wouldn't be 32-50 under your favorite coach? Your favorite coach is going to inspire guys to what 37-45? 40-42? Or do you think the wonderful wizard of Oz Thibbs or Mark Jackson or Luke Walton will make this same team 45-37? 50-32? If you believe that then stop trashing Rambis and get on the tickle train to starphuchville and just make a thread about those coaches.

Nothing wrong with preferring a certain coach, but don't lie to try to prove a point when you do not have a point.

I asked you to give me a reason?

your going to go to your fan base and tell them that rambis is the best coach for the job after what just happen with you previous hire. With a track record

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knicks1248 wrote:
martin wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
nixluva wrote:Knicks have some good options with Blatt, Thibs, Messina and Mark Jackson to name a few. It certainly not a situation where the team has no options, so why panic about it right now. Let the process play out. Even if Phil did stick with Rambis, it's not the end of the world as some people try to make it out to be.

This will be another important summer and there is a lot that can happen between now and the start of Training Camp.

why would keeping rambis be a good thing?

If your willing to keep rambis as a head coach, then martin, chuck, dj music, or anyone on this board can do just as good of job if not better.

In other words pick the worse coach in the league, and make him our head coach, because apparently there coach credentials/resume don't matter to you

Rambis may or may not be a good head coach. But in Minny and here in NY its not like he has been put in position to succeed. The 2 teams he coached in Minny talent was was pretty crap other then Kevin Love and if you consider Beasley that. They did score the 10th most points per game in the league and held the fast pace his 2nd yr. Love, Beasley, Ridnour all had pretty good statistical yrs. There defense sucked though.

In the Tri it has shown to be the most successful with ball movers at the forward position. Can't say that Minny supplied Rambis with those tools.

In other words, he failed to adjust to his roster, and continued banging home a system that not only didn't fit, but made his players look like garbage...

Don't know enough about what he tried to do in Minny. But again in his second yr the team scored the 10th most points per game in the NBA and had the leagues fastest pace. Kevin Love averaged 20.6 15.2 rebs on 47fg% and 41% from 3 with 2.5ast per game. Beasley avearged 19.2pts 5.7rebs 2.2ast 45fg% 36$ from 3. Ridnour averaged 11.8 5.4ast 46.6fg% 44% from 3 with 1.3stls.

Ridnour was the oldest player on the team at age 29. And that was Beasley's best season of his career.

The other players on the team were guys like Wesley Johnson, Corey Brewer, Darko Milicic, Anthony Tolliver. They lost games due to poor defense.

The problem with a coach like ramby is that, you will get individual success from a few bigs on the roster, and a player here and there on the roster.

His problem is preparation,in game adjustments, and rotations, the 3 major categories for a head coach. ramby does have a solid roll on any coaching staff, but he is no where near head coach level.

I don't know if Rambis is a good coach or not but my main point here is that he hasnt been given much to work with in his 2.25 yrs coaching.

Flynn Ridnour Calderon for a couple games Grant. Wesley Johnson Affalo Sasha have been his Guards. If Minny drafted Steph Curry and Derozen Instead of Flynn and Rubio...

When he had the short stint as head coach for LA with kobe shaq, he got swept in the 1st rnd, the next yr phil took over with the same roster and won the championship

You keep saying swept in 1st round. It was second round, they beat Houston 3-1 in first round. Timmy's second year in the league when the DRob still had a lot of legs left in him. Oh, and Spurs won that year, so they were no pushover's

Obviously you think rambis is championship coach, or a adequate replacement for fisher, and I will respect that. I don't, and its not just because of the rosters he's had, Its his overall demeanor, and no one is praising him on the roster. No one on the roster is given him a strong endorsement.
When players are not a 100% on board, they don't play hard for you.

Even with Phil being more involved, he still struggle worse than fisher, we beat 1 team over 500 since he took over,

Tell you what, when you feel like having a sensible conversation where you just don't make **** up, let me know.

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4/13/2016  2:20 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/13/2016  2:26 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
EnySpree wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
EnySpree wrote:
martin wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
nixluva wrote:Knicks have some good options with Blatt, Thibs, Messina and Mark Jackson to name a few. It certainly not a situation where the team has no options, so why panic about it right now. Let the process play out. Even if Phil did stick with Rambis, it's not the end of the world as some people try to make it out to be.

This will be another important summer and there is a lot that can happen between now and the start of Training Camp.

why would keeping rambis be a good thing?

If your willing to keep rambis as a head coach, then martin, chuck, dj music, or anyone on this board can do just as good of job if not better.

In other words pick the worse coach in the league, and make him our head coach, because apparently there coach credentials/resume don't matter to you

Rambis may or may not be a good head coach. But in Minny and here in NY its not like he has been put in position to succeed. The 2 teams he coached in Minny talent was was pretty crap other then Kevin Love and if you consider Beasley that. They did score the 10th most points per game in the league and held the fast pace his 2nd yr. Love, Beasley, Ridnour all had pretty good statistical yrs. There defense sucked though.

In the Tri it has shown to be the most successful with ball movers at the forward position. Can't say that Minny supplied Rambis with those tools.

In other words, he failed to adjust to his roster, and continued banging home a system that not only didn't fit, but made his players look like garbage...

Don't know enough about what he tried to do in Minny. But again in his second yr the team scored the 10th most points per game in the NBA and had the leagues fastest pace. Kevin Love averaged 20.6 15.2 rebs on 47fg% and 41% from 3 with 2.5ast per game. Beasley avearged 19.2pts 5.7rebs 2.2ast 45fg% 36$ from 3. Ridnour averaged 11.8 5.4ast 46.6fg% 44% from 3 with 1.3stls.

Ridnour was the oldest player on the team at age 29. And that was Beasley's best season of his career.

The other players on the team were guys like Wesley Johnson, Corey Brewer, Darko Milicic, Anthony Tolliver. They lost games due to poor defense.

The problem with a coach like ramby is that, you will get individual success from a few bigs on the roster, and a player here and there on the roster.

His problem is preparation,in game adjustments, and rotations, the 3 major categories for a head coach. ramby does have a solid roll on any coaching staff, but he is no where near head coach level.

I don't know if Rambis is a good coach or not but my main point here is that he hasnt been given much to work with in his 2.25 yrs coaching.

Flynn Ridnour Calderon for a couple games Grant. Wesley Johnson Affalo Sasha have been his Guards. If Minny drafted Steph Curry and Derozen Instead of Flynn and Rubio...

When he had the short stint as head coach for LA with kobe shaq, he got swept in the 1st rnd, the next yr phil took over with the same roster and won the championship

You keep saying swept in 1st round. It was second round, they beat Houston 3-1 in first round. Timmy's second year in the league when the DRob still had a lot of legs left in him. Oh, and Spurs won that year, so they were no pushover's

This is not the first time this guy has made stuff up just to try and prove his point. Google it before you post dude


Give me one good reason you would extend rambis, You and I both both know he wouldn't Be here if it wasn't for Phil, He doesn't have the super all star roster, or triangle ready players, his proven that he can't do anything without it. He can not take a decent roster and elvate them to the next level,so if Phil doesn't make a massive up grade, were going to be in the same position next yr, and them Phil would look even more in ept

So you're saying the current Knicks roster wouldn't be 32-50 under your favorite coach? Your favorite coach is going to inspire guys to what 37-45? 40-42? Or do you think the wonderful wizard of Oz Thibbs or Mark Jackson or Luke Walton will make this same team 45-37? 50-32? If you believe that then stop trashing Rambis and get on the tickle train to starphuchville and just make a thread about those coaches.

Nothing wrong with preferring a certain coach, but don't lie to try to prove a point when you do not have a point.

I asked you to give me a reason

I gave my reasons in these forums enough that I don't have to keep repeating them just for you.

Rambis immediately reorganized everything from the first day he took over. That first game you can see a professional coach was in charge of the 3 things you said he didn't do and that's game plan, in game decisions and substitutions... he took a stand and put guys in the line up that deserved to be. He took a stand for hard work and what the coaching staff is trying to instill in the team. Affalo was not doing that so Sasha deservedly took his spot. He took a stand for defense and energy. He did not play guys just because. When guys said Rambis couldn't coach the players he had and just wanted to run the triangle, he proved that wrong with how the team has been playing with Jerian Grant starting. He turned to the two man game of the triangle and let Grant pick and roll with Rolo.

Is that enough reason for me to want to extend Rambis? I happen to like what I see in him. I like how he pulls guys to the side during time outs and substitutions to point out things. I like what he's saying in the huddle. I like his overall demeanor. He's 100% about working with Phil because they share the same philosophy. Thibbs and Mark Jackson would both clash with Phil and we don't need that as a team. I wouldn't mind Luke Walton because he's basically a young Rambis. Same demeanor, same type of role player in his day. He's also in the same coaching tree that Steve Kerr is and that leads to Phil.

Anyway.... bye phylicia

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4/13/2016  2:23 PM
martin wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
martin wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
nixluva wrote:Knicks have some good options with Blatt, Thibs, Messina and Mark Jackson to name a few. It certainly not a situation where the team has no options, so why panic about it right now. Let the process play out. Even if Phil did stick with Rambis, it's not the end of the world as some people try to make it out to be.

This will be another important summer and there is a lot that can happen between now and the start of Training Camp.

why would keeping rambis be a good thing?

If your willing to keep rambis as a head coach, then martin, chuck, dj music, or anyone on this board can do just as good of job if not better.

In other words pick the worse coach in the league, and make him our head coach, because apparently there coach credentials/resume don't matter to you

Rambis may or may not be a good head coach. But in Minny and here in NY its not like he has been put in position to succeed. The 2 teams he coached in Minny talent was was pretty crap other then Kevin Love and if you consider Beasley that. They did score the 10th most points per game in the league and held the fast pace his 2nd yr. Love, Beasley, Ridnour all had pretty good statistical yrs. There defense sucked though.

In the Tri it has shown to be the most successful with ball movers at the forward position. Can't say that Minny supplied Rambis with those tools.

In other words, he failed to adjust to his roster, and continued banging home a system that not only didn't fit, but made his players look like garbage...

Don't know enough about what he tried to do in Minny. But again in his second yr the team scored the 10th most points per game in the NBA and had the leagues fastest pace. Kevin Love averaged 20.6 15.2 rebs on 47fg% and 41% from 3 with 2.5ast per game. Beasley avearged 19.2pts 5.7rebs 2.2ast 45fg% 36$ from 3. Ridnour averaged 11.8 5.4ast 46.6fg% 44% from 3 with 1.3stls.

Ridnour was the oldest player on the team at age 29. And that was Beasley's best season of his career.

The other players on the team were guys like Wesley Johnson, Corey Brewer, Darko Milicic, Anthony Tolliver. They lost games due to poor defense.

The problem with a coach like ramby is that, you will get individual success from a few bigs on the roster, and a player here and there on the roster.

His problem is preparation,in game adjustments, and rotations, the 3 major categories for a head coach. ramby does have a solid roll on any coaching staff, but he is no where near head coach level.

I don't know if Rambis is a good coach or not but my main point here is that he hasnt been given much to work with in his 2.25 yrs coaching.

Flynn Ridnour Calderon for a couple games Grant. Wesley Johnson Affalo Sasha have been his Guards. If Minny drafted Steph Curry and Derozen Instead of Flynn and Rubio...

When he had the short stint as head coach for LA with kobe shaq, he got swept in the 1st rnd, the next yr phil took over with the same roster and won the championship

You keep saying swept in 1st round. It was second round, they beat Houston 3-1 in first round. Timmy's second year in the league when the DRob still had a lot of legs left in him. Oh, and Spurs won that year, so they were no pushover's

Obviously you think rambis is championship coach, or a adequate replacement for fisher, and I will respect that. I don't, and its not just because of the rosters he's had, Its his overall demeanor, and no one is praising him on the roster. No one on the roster is given him a strong endorsement.
When players are not a 100% on board, they don't play hard for you.

Even with Phil being more involved, he still struggle worse than fisher, we beat 1 team over 500 since he took over,

Tell you what, when you feel like having a sensible conversation where you just don't make **** up, let me know.

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4/13/2016  2:25 PM
EnySpree wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
EnySpree wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
EnySpree wrote:
martin wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
nixluva wrote:Knicks have some good options with Blatt, Thibs, Messina and Mark Jackson to name a few. It certainly not a situation where the team has no options, so why panic about it right now. Let the process play out. Even if Phil did stick with Rambis, it's not the end of the world as some people try to make it out to be.

This will be another important summer and there is a lot that can happen between now and the start of Training Camp.

why would keeping rambis be a good thing?

If your willing to keep rambis as a head coach, then martin, chuck, dj music, or anyone on this board can do just as good of job if not better.

In other words pick the worse coach in the league, and make him our head coach, because apparently there coach credentials/resume don't matter to you

Rambis may or may not be a good head coach. But in Minny and here in NY its not like he has been put in position to succeed. The 2 teams he coached in Minny talent was was pretty crap other then Kevin Love and if you consider Beasley that. They did score the 10th most points per game in the league and held the fast pace his 2nd yr. Love, Beasley, Ridnour all had pretty good statistical yrs. There defense sucked though.

In the Tri it has shown to be the most successful with ball movers at the forward position. Can't say that Minny supplied Rambis with those tools.

In other words, he failed to adjust to his roster, and continued banging home a system that not only didn't fit, but made his players look like garbage...

Don't know enough about what he tried to do in Minny. But again in his second yr the team scored the 10th most points per game in the NBA and had the leagues fastest pace. Kevin Love averaged 20.6 15.2 rebs on 47fg% and 41% from 3 with 2.5ast per game. Beasley avearged 19.2pts 5.7rebs 2.2ast 45fg% 36$ from 3. Ridnour averaged 11.8 5.4ast 46.6fg% 44% from 3 with 1.3stls.

Ridnour was the oldest player on the team at age 29. And that was Beasley's best season of his career.

The other players on the team were guys like Wesley Johnson, Corey Brewer, Darko Milicic, Anthony Tolliver. They lost games due to poor defense.

The problem with a coach like ramby is that, you will get individual success from a few bigs on the roster, and a player here and there on the roster.

His problem is preparation,in game adjustments, and rotations, the 3 major categories for a head coach. ramby does have a solid roll on any coaching staff, but he is no where near head coach level.

I don't know if Rambis is a good coach or not but my main point here is that he hasnt been given much to work with in his 2.25 yrs coaching.

Flynn Ridnour Calderon for a couple games Grant. Wesley Johnson Affalo Sasha have been his Guards. If Minny drafted Steph Curry and Derozen Instead of Flynn and Rubio...

When he had the short stint as head coach for LA with kobe shaq, he got swept in the 1st rnd, the next yr phil took over with the same roster and won the championship

You keep saying swept in 1st round. It was second round, they beat Houston 3-1 in first round. Timmy's second year in the league when the DRob still had a lot of legs left in him. Oh, and Spurs won that year, so they were no pushover's

This is not the first time this guy has made stuff up just to try and prove his point. Google it before you post dude


Give me one good reason you would extend rambis, You and I both both know he wouldn't Be here if it wasn't for Phil, He doesn't have the super all star roster, or triangle ready players, his proven that he can't do anything without it. He can not take a decent roster and elvate them to the next level,so if Phil doesn't make a massive up grade, were going to be in the same position next yr, and them Phil would look even more in ept

So you're saying the current Knicks roster wouldn't be 32-50 under your favorite coach? Your favorite coach is going to inspire guys to what 37-45? 40-42? Or do you think the wonderful wizard of Oz Thibbs or Mark Jackson or Luke Walton will make this same team 45-37? 50-32? If you believe that then stop trashing Rambis and get on the tickle train to starphuchville and just make a thread about those coaches.

Nothing wrong with preferring a certain coach, but don't lie to try to prove a point when you do not have a point.

I asked you to give me a reason

I gave my reasons in these forums enough that I don't have to keep repeating them just for you.

Rambis immediately reorganized everything from the first day he took over. That first game you can see a professional coach was in charge of the 3 things you said he didn't do and that's game plan, in game decisions and substitutions... he too a stand and put guys in the lune up that deserved to be. He took a stand for hard work and what the coaching staff is trying to instill in the team. Affalo was not doing that so Sasha deservedly took his spot. He took a stand for defense and energy. He did not play gits just because. When guys said Rambis couldn't coach the players he had and just wanted to run the triangle, he proved that wrong with how the team has been playing with Jerian Grant starting. He turned to the two man game of the triangle and let Grant pick and roll with Rolo.

Is that enough reason for me to want to extend Rambis? I happen to like what I see in him. I like how he pulls guys to the side during time outs and substitutions to point out things. I like what he's saying in the huddle. I like his overall demeanor. He's 100% about working with Phil because they share the same philosophy. Thibbs and Mark Jackson would both clash with Phil and we don't need that as a team. I wouldn't mind Luke Walton because he's basically a young Rambis. Same demeanor, same type of role player in his day. He's also in the same coaching tree that Steve Kerr is and that leads to Phil.

Anyway.... bye phylicia

It had zero impact as a team, and it didn't result in wins.

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knicks1248 wrote:
EnySpree wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
EnySpree wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
EnySpree wrote:
martin wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
nixluva wrote:Knicks have some good options with Blatt, Thibs, Messina and Mark Jackson to name a few. It certainly not a situation where the team has no options, so why panic about it right now. Let the process play out. Even if Phil did stick with Rambis, it's not the end of the world as some people try to make it out to be.

This will be another important summer and there is a lot that can happen between now and the start of Training Camp.

why would keeping rambis be a good thing?

If your willing to keep rambis as a head coach, then martin, chuck, dj music, or anyone on this board can do just as good of job if not better.

In other words pick the worse coach in the league, and make him our head coach, because apparently there coach credentials/resume don't matter to you

Rambis may or may not be a good head coach. But in Minny and here in NY its not like he has been put in position to succeed. The 2 teams he coached in Minny talent was was pretty crap other then Kevin Love and if you consider Beasley that. They did score the 10th most points per game in the league and held the fast pace his 2nd yr. Love, Beasley, Ridnour all had pretty good statistical yrs. There defense sucked though.

In the Tri it has shown to be the most successful with ball movers at the forward position. Can't say that Minny supplied Rambis with those tools.

In other words, he failed to adjust to his roster, and continued banging home a system that not only didn't fit, but made his players look like garbage...

Don't know enough about what he tried to do in Minny. But again in his second yr the team scored the 10th most points per game in the NBA and had the leagues fastest pace. Kevin Love averaged 20.6 15.2 rebs on 47fg% and 41% from 3 with 2.5ast per game. Beasley avearged 19.2pts 5.7rebs 2.2ast 45fg% 36$ from 3. Ridnour averaged 11.8 5.4ast 46.6fg% 44% from 3 with 1.3stls.

Ridnour was the oldest player on the team at age 29. And that was Beasley's best season of his career.

The other players on the team were guys like Wesley Johnson, Corey Brewer, Darko Milicic, Anthony Tolliver. They lost games due to poor defense.

The problem with a coach like ramby is that, you will get individual success from a few bigs on the roster, and a player here and there on the roster.

His problem is preparation,in game adjustments, and rotations, the 3 major categories for a head coach. ramby does have a solid roll on any coaching staff, but he is no where near head coach level.

I don't know if Rambis is a good coach or not but my main point here is that he hasnt been given much to work with in his 2.25 yrs coaching.

Flynn Ridnour Calderon for a couple games Grant. Wesley Johnson Affalo Sasha have been his Guards. If Minny drafted Steph Curry and Derozen Instead of Flynn and Rubio...

When he had the short stint as head coach for LA with kobe shaq, he got swept in the 1st rnd, the next yr phil took over with the same roster and won the championship

You keep saying swept in 1st round. It was second round, they beat Houston 3-1 in first round. Timmy's second year in the league when the DRob still had a lot of legs left in him. Oh, and Spurs won that year, so they were no pushover's

This is not the first time this guy has made stuff up just to try and prove his point. Google it before you post dude


Give me one good reason you would extend rambis, You and I both both know he wouldn't Be here if it wasn't for Phil, He doesn't have the super all star roster, or triangle ready players, his proven that he can't do anything without it. He can not take a decent roster and elvate them to the next level,so if Phil doesn't make a massive up grade, were going to be in the same position next yr, and them Phil would look even more in ept

So you're saying the current Knicks roster wouldn't be 32-50 under your favorite coach? Your favorite coach is going to inspire guys to what 37-45? 40-42? Or do you think the wonderful wizard of Oz Thibbs or Mark Jackson or Luke Walton will make this same team 45-37? 50-32? If you believe that then stop trashing Rambis and get on the tickle train to starphuchville and just make a thread about those coaches.

Nothing wrong with preferring a certain coach, but don't lie to try to prove a point when you do not have a point.

I asked you to give me a reason

I gave my reasons in these forums enough that I don't have to keep repeating them just for you.

Rambis immediately reorganized everything from the first day he took over. That first game you can see a professional coach was in charge of the 3 things you said he didn't do and that's game plan, in game decisions and substitutions... he too a stand and put guys in the lune up that deserved to be. He took a stand for hard work and what the coaching staff is trying to instill in the team. Affalo was not doing that so Sasha deservedly took his spot. He took a stand for defense and energy. He did not play gits just because. When guys said Rambis couldn't coach the players he had and just wanted to run the triangle, he proved that wrong with how the team has been playing with Jerian Grant starting. He turned to the two man game of the triangle and let Grant pick and roll with Rolo.

Is that enough reason for me to want to extend Rambis? I happen to like what I see in him. I like how he pulls guys to the side during time outs and substitutions to point out things. I like what he's saying in the huddle. I like his overall demeanor. He's 100% about working with Phil because they share the same philosophy. Thibbs and Mark Jackson would both clash with Phil and we don't need that as a team. I wouldn't mind Luke Walton because he's basically a young Rambis. Same demeanor, same type of role player in his day. He's also in the same coaching tree that Steve Kerr is and that leads to Phil.

Anyway.... bye phylicia

It had zero impact as a team, and it didn't result in wins.

You are ignorant as hell

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EnySpree wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
EnySpree wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
EnySpree wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
EnySpree wrote:
martin wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
nixluva wrote:Knicks have some good options with Blatt, Thibs, Messina and Mark Jackson to name a few. It certainly not a situation where the team has no options, so why panic about it right now. Let the process play out. Even if Phil did stick with Rambis, it's not the end of the world as some people try to make it out to be.

This will be another important summer and there is a lot that can happen between now and the start of Training Camp.

why would keeping rambis be a good thing?

If your willing to keep rambis as a head coach, then martin, chuck, dj music, or anyone on this board can do just as good of job if not better.

In other words pick the worse coach in the league, and make him our head coach, because apparently there coach credentials/resume don't matter to you

Rambis may or may not be a good head coach. But in Minny and here in NY its not like he has been put in position to succeed. The 2 teams he coached in Minny talent was was pretty crap other then Kevin Love and if you consider Beasley that. They did score the 10th most points per game in the league and held the fast pace his 2nd yr. Love, Beasley, Ridnour all had pretty good statistical yrs. There defense sucked though.

In the Tri it has shown to be the most successful with ball movers at the forward position. Can't say that Minny supplied Rambis with those tools.

In other words, he failed to adjust to his roster, and continued banging home a system that not only didn't fit, but made his players look like garbage...

Don't know enough about what he tried to do in Minny. But again in his second yr the team scored the 10th most points per game in the NBA and had the leagues fastest pace. Kevin Love averaged 20.6 15.2 rebs on 47fg% and 41% from 3 with 2.5ast per game. Beasley avearged 19.2pts 5.7rebs 2.2ast 45fg% 36$ from 3. Ridnour averaged 11.8 5.4ast 46.6fg% 44% from 3 with 1.3stls.

Ridnour was the oldest player on the team at age 29. And that was Beasley's best season of his career.

The other players on the team were guys like Wesley Johnson, Corey Brewer, Darko Milicic, Anthony Tolliver. They lost games due to poor defense.

The problem with a coach like ramby is that, you will get individual success from a few bigs on the roster, and a player here and there on the roster.

His problem is preparation,in game adjustments, and rotations, the 3 major categories for a head coach. ramby does have a solid roll on any coaching staff, but he is no where near head coach level.

I don't know if Rambis is a good coach or not but my main point here is that he hasnt been given much to work with in his 2.25 yrs coaching.

Flynn Ridnour Calderon for a couple games Grant. Wesley Johnson Affalo Sasha have been his Guards. If Minny drafted Steph Curry and Derozen Instead of Flynn and Rubio...

When he had the short stint as head coach for LA with kobe shaq, he got swept in the 1st rnd, the next yr phil took over with the same roster and won the championship

You keep saying swept in 1st round. It was second round, they beat Houston 3-1 in first round. Timmy's second year in the league when the DRob still had a lot of legs left in him. Oh, and Spurs won that year, so they were no pushover's

This is not the first time this guy has made stuff up just to try and prove his point. Google it before you post dude


Give me one good reason you would extend rambis, You and I both both know he wouldn't Be here if it wasn't for Phil, He doesn't have the super all star roster, or triangle ready players, his proven that he can't do anything without it. He can not take a decent roster and elvate them to the next level,so if Phil doesn't make a massive up grade, were going to be in the same position next yr, and them Phil would look even more in ept

So you're saying the current Knicks roster wouldn't be 32-50 under your favorite coach? Your favorite coach is going to inspire guys to what 37-45? 40-42? Or do you think the wonderful wizard of Oz Thibbs or Mark Jackson or Luke Walton will make this same team 45-37? 50-32? If you believe that then stop trashing Rambis and get on the tickle train to starphuchville and just make a thread about those coaches.

Nothing wrong with preferring a certain coach, but don't lie to try to prove a point when you do not have a point.

I asked you to give me a reason

I gave my reasons in these forums enough that I don't have to keep repeating them just for you.

Rambis immediately reorganized everything from the first day he took over. That first game you can see a professional coach was in charge of the 3 things you said he didn't do and that's game plan, in game decisions and substitutions... he too a stand and put guys in the lune up that deserved to be. He took a stand for hard work and what the coaching staff is trying to instill in the team. Affalo was not doing that so Sasha deservedly took his spot. He took a stand for defense and energy. He did not play gits just because. When guys said Rambis couldn't coach the players he had and just wanted to run the triangle, he proved that wrong with how the team has been playing with Jerian Grant starting. He turned to the two man game of the triangle and let Grant pick and roll with Rolo.

Is that enough reason for me to want to extend Rambis? I happen to like what I see in him. I like how he pulls guys to the side during time outs and substitutions to point out things. I like what he's saying in the huddle. I like his overall demeanor. He's 100% about working with Phil because they share the same philosophy. Thibbs and Mark Jackson would both clash with Phil and we don't need that as a team. I wouldn't mind Luke Walton because he's basically a young Rambis. Same demeanor, same type of role player in his day. He's also in the same coaching tree that Steve Kerr is and that leads to Phil.

Anyway.... bye phylicia

It had zero impact as a team, and it didn't result in wins.

You are ignorant as hell

and you should star in the next movie dumber and dumber, as yourself.

nothing rambis did suggest he's head coach worthy, maybe assistant like phil new in the beginning, which is why he gave him THAT job, and his still searching for a better option.

I could also bet you any amount of $ you have, that Rambis WILL NOT BE THE KNICKS HEAD COACH NEXT YR

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4/13/2016  2:39 PM
Some people don't understand that a coach can get his team to do everything right and still lose due to not having enough talent or development to win games. The Knicks are just such a team. They improved their execution but they still have to get better. They often ran the plays correctly but missed the shot or layup. You have to be able to discern proper execution from finishing the play by making the shot. If you do everything right and get Sasha a wide open shot in rhythm and he misses, THAT'S NOT BAD COACHING!!! So yes you can still lose even if your coach does a good job.
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4/13/2016  2:40 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
EnySpree wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
EnySpree wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
EnySpree wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
EnySpree wrote:
martin wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
nixluva wrote:Knicks have some good options with Blatt, Thibs, Messina and Mark Jackson to name a few. It certainly not a situation where the team has no options, so why panic about it right now. Let the process play out. Even if Phil did stick with Rambis, it's not the end of the world as some people try to make it out to be.

This will be another important summer and there is a lot that can happen between now and the start of Training Camp.

why would keeping rambis be a good thing?

If your willing to keep rambis as a head coach, then martin, chuck, dj music, or anyone on this board can do just as good of job if not better.

In other words pick the worse coach in the league, and make him our head coach, because apparently there coach credentials/resume don't matter to you

Rambis may or may not be a good head coach. But in Minny and here in NY its not like he has been put in position to succeed. The 2 teams he coached in Minny talent was was pretty crap other then Kevin Love and if you consider Beasley that. They did score the 10th most points per game in the league and held the fast pace his 2nd yr. Love, Beasley, Ridnour all had pretty good statistical yrs. There defense sucked though.

In the Tri it has shown to be the most successful with ball movers at the forward position. Can't say that Minny supplied Rambis with those tools.

In other words, he failed to adjust to his roster, and continued banging home a system that not only didn't fit, but made his players look like garbage...

Don't know enough about what he tried to do in Minny. But again in his second yr the team scored the 10th most points per game in the NBA and had the leagues fastest pace. Kevin Love averaged 20.6 15.2 rebs on 47fg% and 41% from 3 with 2.5ast per game. Beasley avearged 19.2pts 5.7rebs 2.2ast 45fg% 36$ from 3. Ridnour averaged 11.8 5.4ast 46.6fg% 44% from 3 with 1.3stls.

Ridnour was the oldest player on the team at age 29. And that was Beasley's best season of his career.

The other players on the team were guys like Wesley Johnson, Corey Brewer, Darko Milicic, Anthony Tolliver. They lost games due to poor defense.

The problem with a coach like ramby is that, you will get individual success from a few bigs on the roster, and a player here and there on the roster.

His problem is preparation,in game adjustments, and rotations, the 3 major categories for a head coach. ramby does have a solid roll on any coaching staff, but he is no where near head coach level.

I don't know if Rambis is a good coach or not but my main point here is that he hasnt been given much to work with in his 2.25 yrs coaching.

Flynn Ridnour Calderon for a couple games Grant. Wesley Johnson Affalo Sasha have been his Guards. If Minny drafted Steph Curry and Derozen Instead of Flynn and Rubio...

When he had the short stint as head coach for LA with kobe shaq, he got swept in the 1st rnd, the next yr phil took over with the same roster and won the championship

You keep saying swept in 1st round. It was second round, they beat Houston 3-1 in first round. Timmy's second year in the league when the DRob still had a lot of legs left in him. Oh, and Spurs won that year, so they were no pushover's

This is not the first time this guy has made stuff up just to try and prove his point. Google it before you post dude


Give me one good reason you would extend rambis, You and I both both know he wouldn't Be here if it wasn't for Phil, He doesn't have the super all star roster, or triangle ready players, his proven that he can't do anything without it. He can not take a decent roster and elvate them to the next level,so if Phil doesn't make a massive up grade, were going to be in the same position next yr, and them Phil would look even more in ept

So you're saying the current Knicks roster wouldn't be 32-50 under your favorite coach? Your favorite coach is going to inspire guys to what 37-45? 40-42? Or do you think the wonderful wizard of Oz Thibbs or Mark Jackson or Luke Walton will make this same team 45-37? 50-32? If you believe that then stop trashing Rambis and get on the tickle train to starphuchville and just make a thread about those coaches.

Nothing wrong with preferring a certain coach, but don't lie to try to prove a point when you do not have a point.

I asked you to give me a reason

I gave my reasons in these forums enough that I don't have to keep repeating them just for you.

Rambis immediately reorganized everything from the first day he took over. That first game you can see a professional coach was in charge of the 3 things you said he didn't do and that's game plan, in game decisions and substitutions... he too a stand and put guys in the lune up that deserved to be. He took a stand for hard work and what the coaching staff is trying to instill in the team. Affalo was not doing that so Sasha deservedly took his spot. He took a stand for defense and energy. He did not play gits just because. When guys said Rambis couldn't coach the players he had and just wanted to run the triangle, he proved that wrong with how the team has been playing with Jerian Grant starting. He turned to the two man game of the triangle and let Grant pick and roll with Rolo.

Is that enough reason for me to want to extend Rambis? I happen to like what I see in him. I like how he pulls guys to the side during time outs and substitutions to point out things. I like what he's saying in the huddle. I like his overall demeanor. He's 100% about working with Phil because they share the same philosophy. Thibbs and Mark Jackson would both clash with Phil and we don't need that as a team. I wouldn't mind Luke Walton because he's basically a young Rambis. Same demeanor, same type of role player in his day. He's also in the same coaching tree that Steve Kerr is and that leads to Phil.

Anyway.... bye phylicia

It had zero impact as a team, and it didn't result in wins.

You are ignorant as hell

and you should star in the next movie dumber and dumber, as yourself.

nothing rambis did suggest he's head coach worthy, maybe assistant like phil new in the beginning, which is why he gave him THAT job, and his still searching for a better option.

I could also bet you any amount of $ you have, that Rambis WILL NOT BE THE KNICKS HEAD COACH NEXT YR

Only thing that you continue to prove is how ignorant you are.

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4/13/2016  2:43 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
nyknickzingis wrote:Phil Jackson has helped the Knicks completely re-build their roster and way they play.
They've gone from being a selfish, one dimensional team of chuckers like Melo, JR Smith, Amare,

Jason kidd had these guys passing the ball and we won 54 games and Jr was 6th man of the yr..who exactly was chucking?

yr 2 saw early injuries, and no more kidd..the lack leadership lead to a slow start and we couldn't recover despite finishing the season 19-6


JKidd was very good that year and really changed the culture. I do agree with that. It was a very good year for us.

But that wasn't the year Phil Jackson took over the team. That was like a 1 year anomaly. Outside of that 1 year, the Knicks were 35-40 win type of teams who played selfish basketball filled with selfish players. There wasn't growth. The Knicks right now have some continuity and potential to keep getting better as KP/Grant get better as well as how they approach free agency. If they keep picking up free agents like Robin Lopez, I stand by what I said. Come 2017 we'll be one of the most sound teams in the league, who have a good balance of talent, good payroll/cap situation and lots of draft picks to work with. This is how you build a franchise for the longrun.

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nyknickzingis wrote:Phil Jackson has helped the Knicks completely re-build their roster and way they play.
They've gone from being a selfish, one dimensional team of chuckers like Melo, JR Smith, Amare, Hardaway, (and more) in a situation where a teammate's success like Lin's breakout caused tension within the lockerroom (despite winning) vs now with Melo playing team first, showing leadership constantly, Porzingis emergence and media hype has only been welcomed by the team. There's so much better culture out there. That's part of the Triangle atmosphere. You go look at other re-building teams, many of them are full of players looking to get their own shot, to look like stars on a bad team to not get the blame for all the losing. You look at even more talented teams like Houston or Sacramento or Chicago an they've got completely different coaching staffs and systems than Triangle and they are struggling far worse than us (All 3 underachieved greatly).

Chicago and Houston are great examples of the polar opposite of the Triangle. You have teams there shooting an insane amount of 3 pointers, trying to play Golden State basketball, but they just don't have the talent for it. And they lose, lose more than they should have. Both teams would be better with a sound system like the Triangle and the type of coaching we have in NY.

It's not always the case that what works in one situation will work in another. What works in Golden State, may not work in Houston or Chicago. Not every team has the type of shooting that Curry/Thompson provide the Warriors. The Knicks are not good enough in the present, but they compete on a nightly basis, through half way into the season were within the playoff 8, and have at the same time developed some young players for the future in Porzingis and Grant. Phil had 2 very good draft selections last year with KP and Grant. Look at what Grant did as a starter to close the season. He can defeinitely play. Then you have Lopez, our main signing this past offseason. Another great move. It looks like Afflalo and D-Will will opt out. Perfect 1 year stop gap types. The Knicks will have 30$M in space this summer to go to work on the backcourt. A backcourt that already looks better now that Grant is showing he belongs in the NBA. If we can use the capspace this summer to focus on the backcourt - we already have 3 quality front court players in Melo, KP and RoLo - then I can definitely be excited about next season and moving forward. If Phil plays this right as he has so far, the Knicks can dip in this summer to add some talent to the backcourt, and in 2017 they can go at it for the top free agents in 2017. All while 2017 forward the Knicks have all their draft picks. I don't get all the hysteria. The Knicks by 2017 summer will be one of the most attractive destinations for free agents and be a very healthy franchise, so long as Phil doesn't alter from the plan this summer and do something very Knick-like (Giving a max contract to a Dwight Howard or something like that would qualify).

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