Knixkik wrote:newyorker4ever wrote:Knixkik wrote:newyorker4ever wrote:VCoug wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:Why are people using AA as a standard? He sucks and just because another player might be better than him in other areas doesn't mean they are good? Having the best below avg players isn't much to talk about. It's like when people called AA an improvement over JR/Shump, that's not saying much.
Seriously. He's decent as the 4th man on an ok Boston team that's going to win about 45 games. Guys like him, Brandon Jennings, Courtney Lee, etc. do absolutely nothing for us and if those are the kinds of guys we sign this Summer we should expect to have basically the same record (unless Porzingis makes some sort of leap next year).
Well you better be ready for us to sign those types of players cause we won't be signing any max guys this off season. Those 3 names you mentioned and guys like that are exactly what i'm expecting this off season and i really don't think some of them would be bad choices for what we can afford. If we get the right guys in that come in committed and we can get a head coach that the players will respect and can coach then i think if we added a E.Turner and B.Jennings or R.Rondo to Melo, KP and R.Lopez that they could absolutely compete for the playoffs next year. PG--R.Rondo or B.Jennings
SG--E.Turner
SF--Melo
PF--KP
C--R.Lopez
Bench--L.Thomas, D.Williams, Gallo, J.Grant, KOQ, W.Hermangomez and a couple of new lower priced veterans.
To be able to afford both Rondo or Jennings and E.Turner A.Afflalo will have to opt out and not re-sign but that team there would make the playoffs next year.
No one in the starting 5 is a great outside shooter. In today's league, that would be a huge problem.
Yeah that's a good point and for some reason i didn't even think about that when i was making that team. So we would need to get a point guard or SG that can shoot the rock. E.Turner can play the 2 or the 3 as well.
To me if we assume the front court will remain the same next season, than we need a PG who can penetrate and create for them while keeping the defense honest on his outside shot, and a SG who is a 2-way player and knock down outside shooter. The most fitting players on the open market are Jennings and Bazemore, especially considering age. They might not be perfect, but they make the most sense if we are trying to upgrade both positions this off season. Turner fits as a nice 6th man type with his all-around skills.
I agree with what you're saying (what are needs are), I just don't want to overspend on the "premium" choices -- Jennings, Rondo, Batum, Conley Jr...Bazemore and Crabbe are even gonna cost a pretty penny off their productive seasons. I'd prefer to target guys that fill our needs while remaining mindful of the cap.
For a lead guard upgrade, just looking at what's out there, I think I prefer Jerryd Bayless. I think he fulfills what we need at that spot--experienced but nowhere near over the hill, good speed/penetration/creativity, and he can keep guys honest with his jumper which has always been solid. Very solid overall talent level--an athletic, capable ball-handler who would add offensive punch--has the skills to succeed in the triangle and also get out and play in transition. I feel this dude is capable of running his own team--that could be the hook to get him. The big thing I like here is that he should cost less than these other guys, maybe a lot less the more I think about it--I don't know if anyone around the league would offer Bayless 30+ mins and a starting spot like I'm recommending. If we offered that along with a decent/fair contract, that might help keep the price in our favor. I think Bayless together with someone like Yogi Ferrell who I'd hope to get in the draft somehow (unlike other projected 1st rounders and the like, this is a guy we'd actually have a shot at getting)--I like that combo as far as bang for the buck...At 2G, same deal with Bazemore, Batum etc. -- nice players but they'll cost a premium. I'd rather turn my attention to PJ Hairston/Terrico White for a 2G--these dudes would cost less yet possess a very similar ceiling as an Allen Crabbe for example. Solomon Hill over Evan Turner for that type of player, same deal... Hey man, cap management is half the battle in the NBA. Wildly overspending for mediocrity is the worst possible thing you can do--we've all seen that approach far too many times. I'd prefer to keep costs down, maybe uncover a real good cost-effective player along the way while doing so (hopefully two or three of these types). And if Melo doesn't care for that approach, he can ask to leave at any point. Melo couldn't care less about the ramifications of mismanaging the cap but Phil certainly should. Loading up on overpriced players that doesn't = championship or in theory at least a deep playoff run just to placate Melo is the wrong approach if you ask me.