ChuckBuck wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:Trade him and use the 23 mil per year cap money wisely. I chose option A even though it's way too early to know that either of those players are ones to build a franchise around.

we had 27 million this yr, and the improvement is lousy, KP is shooting 41% on the season and is head south of his development. Once the full scouting report was out, just like LIN, its been a struggle for him.

And if you don't know for certain how it will turned out, what sense would it make to trade surety for uncertainty

See bold

See Dolan

LOL!
We did add Rolo. So it's not impossible for FA money to be spent well but we have had a low success rate with FAs (and draft picks and trades) under Dolan.

I see, so with our cap space we are going to sign pure bargains and values. And with our draft picks we are going to hit on multiple franchise players.

With this ownership and management? I doubt it but it's not going to get any worse than the sub .300 winning percentage since Melo signed the largest basketball contract in the world (at the time). They're going to need new people or at least new methods for making decisions.

Philly has had no big contracts and multiple upon multiple lotto picks over the years. And they have less then .300% win %

There aren't many teams in the league that have a team full of bargain contracts and franchise picks they landed in the draft. Because it's freaking hard.

All plans are great if you execute and or get lucky.

I never said we need to avoid big contracts. I just wouldn't have given the largest contract on the planet to Melo.

You should know the circumstances that came with that though. Which has been gone over plenty of times.

Resigning Melo was a mistake simple and plain. If anything we should've done a sign and trade like what we did with David Lee before we signed Amare, if we were afraid of Melo walking without compensation.

Just a dumb management decision by Phil, and now we're forced to do a half ass rebuild "Are we doing playoffs or not?" Instead doing a proper rebuild youth movement with tons of cap space.

Resigning was the 1st mistake, compounding it with the NTC was a true death blow for our team's flexibilty and near future prospects of getting decent return for Melo.

Yet after we resigned Melo we still were able to land KP, still had cap space last off season, and still have cap space going into this off season because the cap raised 20mil which was expected. There haven't been any FAs that we missed out on due to Melo's contract. But let me guess, if we had the extra 23mil this past off season then we would have landed Butler and Leonard. Or value players like Crowder would bypass a playoff team like Celtics to come to our completely bare team.

But which free agents will sign with 31 year Melo? That's the loaded question. (Hint, No one good)

Should've rebuilt proper and get a bunch of younger hungry free agents and aim big for the 2017 draft lottery to pair with KP. Instead we're fake competing and ruining our draft spot to like the teens or worst to salvage Melo's "prime".

After we resigned Melo we were able to land KP at #4 in the draft, had cap space to sign young hungry FAs anyway(Lopez, D.Williams, KOQ, Seraphin,SG position was kind shallow) Also added another draft pick last draft to take Grant to pair with Galloway who is in his 2nd yr.

Now what if that 2017 lotto pick that we basically would have to put all our hope into becomes just an OK player?

ChuckBuck wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:Trade him and use the 23 mil per year cap money wisely. I chose option A even though it's way too early to know that either of those players are ones to build a franchise around.

we had 27 million this yr, and the improvement is lousy, KP is shooting 41% on the season and is head south of his development. Once the full scouting report was out, just like LIN, its been a struggle for him.

And if you don't know for certain how it will turned out, what sense would it make to trade surety for uncertainty

See bold

See Dolan

LOL!
We did add Rolo. So it's not impossible for FA money to be spent well but we have had a low success rate with FAs (and draft picks and trades) under Dolan.

I see, so with our cap space we are going to sign pure bargains and values. And with our draft picks we are going to hit on multiple franchise players.

With this ownership and management? I doubt it but it's not going to get any worse than the sub .300 winning percentage since Melo signed the largest basketball contract in the world (at the time). They're going to need new people or at least new methods for making decisions.

Philly has had no big contracts and multiple upon multiple lotto picks over the years. And they have less then .300% win %

There aren't many teams in the league that have a team full of bargain contracts and franchise picks they landed in the draft. Because it's freaking hard.

All plans are great if you execute and or get lucky.

I never said we need to avoid big contracts. I just wouldn't have given the largest contract on the planet to Melo.

You should know the circumstances that came with that though. Which has been gone over plenty of times.

Resigning Melo was a mistake simple and plain. If anything we should've done a sign and trade like what we did with David Lee before we signed Amare, if we were afraid of Melo walking without compensation.

Just a dumb management decision by Phil, and now we're forced to do a half ass rebuild "Are we doing playoffs or not?" Instead doing a proper rebuild youth movement with tons of cap space.

Resigning was the 1st mistake, compounding it with the NTC was a true death blow for our team's flexibilty and near future prospects of getting decent return for Melo.

Yet after we resigned Melo we still were able to land KP, still had cap space last off season, and still have cap space going into this off season because the cap raised 20mil which was expected. There haven't been any FAs that we missed out on due to Melo's contract. But let me guess, if we had the extra 23mil this past off season then we would have landed Butler and Leonard. Or value players like Crowder would bypass a playoff team like Celtics to come to our completely bare team.

But which free agents will sign with 31 year Melo? That's the loaded question. (Hint, No one good)

Should've rebuilt proper and get a bunch of younger hungry free agents and aim big for the 2017 draft lottery to pair with KP. Instead we're fake competing and ruining our draft spot to like the teens or worst to salvage Melo's "prime".

Brah, is there anything else you can add to make your argument "Simple amd Plain" because all I see is you having a hard on for Melo. Just let the hate go brah.

Ussually mistakes:
Don't lead team in points, rebounds and assists.
Arent just deemed mistakes because they command a Max. Or Davis wpuld be a mistake because NO doesn't win? Brook Lopez?, etc etc long list of max contracts on losing squads.
If we just let him walk during contract year, how would we be? And don't say we could of picked up franchise changing players with rhat cap space, as there were none rhat were coming. Specially without him.
With the new TV money coming in, Melo's deal will prove to be decent in terms of money. Have you seen what some of these short carreer players are slatted to make?
But your right, with Melo money we could of picked up someone like Gallinari and Afflalo.

Btw. Jeremy Lin the reason you hate Melo? You guys still dating?

ChuckBuck wrote:You need to pickup cornerstones in the draft, not free agency. We have KP, so that's 1, we need another. If we're semi-competitive this year, we're pretty much blowing our shot at getting our 2nd stud in the 2017 draft.

Free agency is great to add that final piece for a title run like an Aldridge or Love. You need to build from within first and add younger role players along the way that might pan out, not this bullshyt we're doing now.

Seems like you only need to pick 1 through draft, if that. There is no hard and fast rule to building a championship team.

martin wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:You need to pickup cornerstones in the draft, not free agency. We have KP, so that's 1, we need another. If we're semi-competitive this year, we're pretty much blowing our shot at getting our 2nd stud in the 2017 draft.

Free agency is great to add that final piece for a title run like an Aldridge or Love. You need to build from within first and add younger role players along the way that might pan out, not this bullshyt we're doing now.

Seems like you only need to pick 1 through draft, if that. There is no hard and fast rule to building a championship team.

Typically the top teams have multiple first rounders or draftees as starters or core members.

San Antonio had Duncan, a 1st overall pick, Kawhi a 15th pick, Parker a 28th pick, and Manu a draft gem in the 2nd round.

Golden State has Curry, 7th overall, Klay, 11th overall, Barnes, 7th overall, and Green another diamond in the rough in the 2nd round.

OKC has Durant, 2nd overall, Westbrook, 4th overall, and Ibaka, 24th overall.

Only real exception is Cleveland and it has Lebron going back to the team that drafted him. Otherwise, Kyrie was 1st overall, and Tristan Thompson was 4th overall.

You have to hit a home run in the draft first, before adding the free agent cherries on top second.

Bonn1997 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:Trade him and use the 23 mil per year cap money wisely. I chose option A even though it's way too early to know that either of those players are ones to build a franchise around.

we had 27 million this yr, and the improvement is lousy, KP is shooting 41% on the season and is head south of his development. Once the full scouting report was out, just like LIN, its been a struggle for him.

And if you don't know for certain how it will turned out, what sense would it make to trade surety for uncertainty

See bold

See Dolan

LOL!
We did add Rolo. So it's not impossible for FA money to be spent well but we have had a low success rate with FAs (and draft picks and trades) under Dolan.

I see, so with our cap space we are going to sign pure bargains and values. And with our draft picks we are going to hit on multiple franchise players.

With this ownership and management? I doubt it but it's not going to get any worse than the sub .300 winning percentage since Melo signed the largest basketball contract in the world (at the time). They're going to need new people or at least new methods for making decisions.

Philly has had no big contracts and multiple upon multiple lotto picks over the years. And they have less then .300% win %

There aren't many teams in the league that have a team full of bargain contracts and franchise picks they landed in the draft. Because it's freaking hard.

All plans are great if you execute and or get lucky.

I never said we need to avoid big contracts. I just wouldn't have given the largest contract on the planet to Melo.

You should know the circumstances that came with that though. Which has been gone over plenty of times.

I've listed below all of the circumstances that would cause me to give out a bad contract:

I mean that's kind of easy to say on a message board. You try and make it seem like Carmelo's contract has prevented the Knicks from having any flexibility which hasn't been the case.

It's taken up space that could have been better used. I think there's strong evidence that Melo's production does not match his contract. And the problem is that you don't want players to simply match their contracts (which he doesn't even do). Average production per dollar spent is what a .500 team does. The top teams have most of their salary spent on players whose production exceeds their contracts. We actually have the 17th highest payroll and 22nd best record. So we're getting below average return on money spent. That's not just Melo. Almost every player on the roster is producing below their contract. He's just the biggest symptom of a problem that pertains to the entire roster.
To be clear, I didn't want to lose Melo for nothing either. It should have never gotten to the point of his free agency. Back when Melo was winning player of the month awards, I was saying it was time to sell high and trade him.

This would mean more if the Knicks were capped out beyond belief with a bunch of unmovable players and no wiggle room to improve the roster which isn't the case. Just because hypothetically money could maybe be spent on higher returns if they were available doesn't mean it would happen. You have to compete for FAs with other teams. You could hypothetically end up having to overpay or continue with stop gap players waiting for that value to come all the same rather then actually building a team.

newyorknewyork wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:Trade him and use the 23 mil per year cap money wisely. I chose option A even though it's way too early to know that either of those players are ones to build a franchise around.

we had 27 million this yr, and the improvement is lousy, KP is shooting 41% on the season and is head south of his development. Once the full scouting report was out, just like LIN, its been a struggle for him.

And if you don't know for certain how it will turned out, what sense would it make to trade surety for uncertainty

See bold

See Dolan

LOL!
We did add Rolo. So it's not impossible for FA money to be spent well but we have had a low success rate with FAs (and draft picks and trades) under Dolan.

I see, so with our cap space we are going to sign pure bargains and values. And with our draft picks we are going to hit on multiple franchise players.

With this ownership and management? I doubt it but it's not going to get any worse than the sub .300 winning percentage since Melo signed the largest basketball contract in the world (at the time). They're going to need new people or at least new methods for making decisions.

Philly has had no big contracts and multiple upon multiple lotto picks over the years. And they have less then .300% win %

There aren't many teams in the league that have a team full of bargain contracts and franchise picks they landed in the draft. Because it's freaking hard.

All plans are great if you execute and or get lucky.

I never said we need to avoid big contracts. I just wouldn't have given the largest contract on the planet to Melo.

You should know the circumstances that came with that though. Which has been gone over plenty of times.

I've listed below all of the circumstances that would cause me to give out a bad contract:

I mean that's kind of easy to say on a message board. You try and make it seem like Carmelo's contract has prevented the Knicks from having any flexibility which hasn't been the case.

It's taken up space that could have been better used. I think there's strong evidence that Melo's production does not match his contract. And the problem is that you don't want players to simply match their contracts (which he doesn't even do). Average production per dollar spent is what a .500 team does. The top teams have most of their salary spent on players whose production exceeds their contracts. We actually have the 17th highest payroll and 22nd best record. So we're getting below average return on money spent. That's not just Melo. Almost every player on the roster is producing below their contract. He's just the biggest symptom of a problem that pertains to the entire roster.
To be clear, I didn't want to lose Melo for nothing either. It should have never gotten to the point of his free agency. Back when Melo was winning player of the month awards, I was saying it was time to sell high and trade him.

+1. Knicks should've signed and traded Melo long ago if they were afraid to lose him in free agency without compensation.

We would have had to trade him during the 54 win season or the yr prior when MDA tried to move him for D.Williams. Wasn't happening. This is the same era that amnestied Billups over Amare and traded our draft pick for Bargs.

No, they could've traded him the 2013-2014 37 win season when he still had some decent value and he was a pending free agent. Or even signed and traded him to LA, Houston, or Chicago before he resigned to $124m and trapped us with the NTC.

ChuckBuck wrote:

martin wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:You need to pickup cornerstones in the draft, not free agency. We have KP, so that's 1, we need another. If we're semi-competitive this year, we're pretty much blowing our shot at getting our 2nd stud in the 2017 draft.

Free agency is great to add that final piece for a title run like an Aldridge or Love. You need to build from within first and add younger role players along the way that might pan out, not this bullshyt we're doing now.

Seems like you only need to pick 1 through draft, if that. There is no hard and fast rule to building a championship team.

Typically the top teams have multiple first rounders or draftees as starters or core members.

San Antonio had Duncan, a 1st overall pick, Kawhi a 15th pick, Parker a 28th pick, and Manu a draft gem in the 2nd round.

Golden State has Curry, 7th overall, Klay, 11th overall, Barnes, 7th overall, and Green another diamond in the rough in the 2nd round.

OKC has Durant, 2nd overall, Westbrook, 4th overall, and Ibaka, 24th overall.

Only real exception is Cleveland and it has Lebron going back to the team that drafted him. Otherwise, Kyrie was 1st overall, and Tristan Thompson was 4th overall.

You have to hit a home run in the draft first, before adding the free agent cherries on top second.

Only OKC was a tear everything down rebuild. Mostly because they were moving for Seattle to Oklahoma and didn't want any cap attached for the sale. Spurs were already a good team who lost there franchise player for the season. Golden State traded for David Lee to pair with Ellis and Curry hoping to be a playoff team. Then when they draft Klay they moved Ellis for Bogut to again try and be a playoff team. They didn't trade everyone for pure draft picks hoping to collect stars through the draft. They tried to be a playoff team failed and used there lotto pick to improve the team.

newyorknewyork wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:Trade him and use the 23 mil per year cap money wisely. I chose option A even though it's way too early to know that either of those players are ones to build a franchise around.

we had 27 million this yr, and the improvement is lousy, KP is shooting 41% on the season and is head south of his development. Once the full scouting report was out, just like LIN, its been a struggle for him.

And if you don't know for certain how it will turned out, what sense would it make to trade surety for uncertainty

See bold

See Dolan

LOL!
We did add Rolo. So it's not impossible for FA money to be spent well but we have had a low success rate with FAs (and draft picks and trades) under Dolan.

I see, so with our cap space we are going to sign pure bargains and values. And with our draft picks we are going to hit on multiple franchise players.

With this ownership and management? I doubt it but it's not going to get any worse than the sub .300 winning percentage since Melo signed the largest basketball contract in the world (at the time). They're going to need new people or at least new methods for making decisions.

Philly has had no big contracts and multiple upon multiple lotto picks over the years. And they have less then .300% win %

There aren't many teams in the league that have a team full of bargain contracts and franchise picks they landed in the draft. Because it's freaking hard.

All plans are great if you execute and or get lucky.

I never said we need to avoid big contracts. I just wouldn't have given the largest contract on the planet to Melo.

You should know the circumstances that came with that though. Which has been gone over plenty of times.

I've listed below all of the circumstances that would cause me to give out a bad contract:

I mean that's kind of easy to say on a message board. You try and make it seem like Carmelo's contract has prevented the Knicks from having any flexibility which hasn't been the case.

It's taken up space that could have been better used. I think there's strong evidence that Melo's production does not match his contract. And the problem is that you don't want players to simply match their contracts (which he doesn't even do). Average production per dollar spent is what a .500 team does. The top teams have most of their salary spent on players whose production exceeds their contracts. We actually have the 17th highest payroll and 22nd best record. So we're getting below average return on money spent. That's not just Melo. Almost every player on the roster is producing below their contract. He's just the biggest symptom of a problem that pertains to the entire roster.
To be clear, I didn't want to lose Melo for nothing either. It should have never gotten to the point of his free agency. Back when Melo was winning player of the month awards, I was saying it was time to sell high and trade him.

+1. Knicks should've signed and traded Melo long ago if they were afraid to lose him in free agency without compensation.

We would have had to trade him during the 54 win season or the yr prior when MDA tried to move him for D.Williams. Wasn't happening. This is the same era that amnestied Billups over Amare and traded our draft pick for Bargs.

No, they could've traded him the 2013-2014 37 win season when he still had some decent value and he was a pending free agent. Or even signed and traded him to LA, Houston, or Chicago before he resigned to $124m and trapped us with the NTC.

He was a pending free agent meaning he would have to give the team he is being traded to clearance that he would resign with them before they give up any assets.

Or they could've traded him on draft day with no assurances needed. At All.

newyorknewyork wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:Trade him and use the 23 mil per year cap money wisely. I chose option A even though it's way too early to know that either of those players are ones to build a franchise around.

we had 27 million this yr, and the improvement is lousy, KP is shooting 41% on the season and is head south of his development. Once the full scouting report was out, just like LIN, its been a struggle for him.

And if you don't know for certain how it will turned out, what sense would it make to trade surety for uncertainty

See bold

See Dolan

LOL!
We did add Rolo. So it's not impossible for FA money to be spent well but we have had a low success rate with FAs (and draft picks and trades) under Dolan.

I see, so with our cap space we are going to sign pure bargains and values. And with our draft picks we are going to hit on multiple franchise players.

With this ownership and management? I doubt it but it's not going to get any worse than the sub .300 winning percentage since Melo signed the largest basketball contract in the world (at the time). They're going to need new people or at least new methods for making decisions.

Philly has had no big contracts and multiple upon multiple lotto picks over the years. And they have less then .300% win %

There aren't many teams in the league that have a team full of bargain contracts and franchise picks they landed in the draft. Because it's freaking hard.

All plans are great if you execute and or get lucky.

I never said we need to avoid big contracts. I just wouldn't have given the largest contract on the planet to Melo.

You should know the circumstances that came with that though. Which has been gone over plenty of times.

I've listed below all of the circumstances that would cause me to give out a bad contract:

I mean that's kind of easy to say on a message board. You try and make it seem like Carmelo's contract has prevented the Knicks from having any flexibility which hasn't been the case.

It's taken up space that could have been better used. I think there's strong evidence that Melo's production does not match his contract. And the problem is that you don't want players to simply match their contracts (which he doesn't even do). Average production per dollar spent is what a .500 team does. The top teams have most of their salary spent on players whose production exceeds their contracts. We actually have the 17th highest payroll and 22nd best record. So we're getting below average return on money spent. That's not just Melo. Almost every player on the roster is producing below their contract. He's just the biggest symptom of a problem that pertains to the entire roster.
To be clear, I didn't want to lose Melo for nothing either. It should have never gotten to the point of his free agency. Back when Melo was winning player of the month awards, I was saying it was time to sell high and trade him.

+1. Knicks should've signed and traded Melo long ago if they were afraid to lose him in free agency without compensation.

We would have had to trade him during the 54 win season or the yr prior when MDA tried to move him for D.Williams. Wasn't happening. This is the same era that amnestied Billups over Amare and traded our draft pick for Bargs.

No, they could've traded him the 2013-2014 37 win season when he still had some decent value and he was a pending free agent. Or even signed and traded him to LA, Houston, or Chicago before he resigned to $124m and trapped us with the NTC.

He was a pending free agent meaning he would have to give the team he is being traded to clearance that he would resign with them before they give up any assets.

Or they could've traded him on draft day with no assurances needed. At All.

When he was a free agent?

NBA Draft is in June. Free Agency begins in July usually. Knicks would still hold his rights before free agency began.

Bonn1997 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:Trade him and use the 23 mil per year cap money wisely. I chose option A even though it's way too early to know that either of those players are ones to build a franchise around.

we had 27 million this yr, and the improvement is lousy, KP is shooting 41% on the season and is head south of his development. Once the full scouting report was out, just like LIN, its been a struggle for him.

And if you don't know for certain how it will turned out, what sense would it make to trade surety for uncertainty

See bold

See Dolan

LOL!
We did add Rolo. So it's not impossible for FA money to be spent well but we have had a low success rate with FAs (and draft picks and trades) under Dolan.

I see, so with our cap space we are going to sign pure bargains and values. And with our draft picks we are going to hit on multiple franchise players.

With this ownership and management? I doubt it but it's not going to get any worse than the sub .300 winning percentage since Melo signed the largest basketball contract in the world (at the time). They're going to need new people or at least new methods for making decisions.

Philly has had no big contracts and multiple upon multiple lotto picks over the years. And they have less then .300% win %

There aren't many teams in the league that have a team full of bargain contracts and franchise picks they landed in the draft. Because it's freaking hard.

All plans are great if you execute and or get lucky.

I never said we need to avoid big contracts. I just wouldn't have given the largest contract on the planet to Melo.

You should know the circumstances that came with that though. Which has been gone over plenty of times.

I've listed below all of the circumstances that would cause me to give out a bad contract:

I mean that's kind of easy to say on a message board. You try and make it seem like Carmelo's contract has prevented the Knicks from having any flexibility which hasn't been the case.

It's taken up space that could have been better used. I think there's strong evidence that Melo's production does not match his contract. And the problem is that you don't want players to simply match their contracts (which he doesn't even do). Average production per dollar spent is what a .500 team does. The top teams have most of their salary spent on players whose production exceeds their contracts. We actually have the 17th highest payroll and 22nd best record. So we're getting below average return on money spent. That's not just Melo. Almost every player on the roster is producing below their contract. He's just the biggest symptom of a problem that pertains to the entire roster.
To be clear, I didn't want to lose Melo for nothing either. It should have never gotten to the point of his free agency. Back when Melo was winning player of the month awards, I was saying it was time to sell high and trade him.

This would mean more if the Knicks were capped out beyond belief with a bunch of unmovable players and no wiggle room to improve the roster which isn't the case. Just because hypothetically money could maybe be spent on higher returns if they were available doesn't mean it would happen. You have to compete for FAs with other teams. You could hypothetically end up having to overpay or continue with stop gap players waiting for that value to come all the same rather then actually building a team.

A smart team spends every penny well. You can't just designate a large portion of the team salary (like Melo's 23 mil per) and say we're going to get poor return out of that portion but we'll use the other part of the cap space well. If a player is not going to outproduce his contract, then you have to find better ways to use the money. There's no point in discussing what "would happen" under Dolan. Then as might as well just list all the ways we can think of to construct a .400 team. The point is to discuss what should happen.

Even though Melo's $23m will seem like say $17m or $18m under the new TV deal, it's still throwing money out the window.

That $23m could easily be 2 young hungry free agent role players that could grow with the Knicks and build the team with, instead of diminishing returns and less wins each year in 31 year old Anthony.