HofstraBBall wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

SwishAndDish13 wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Fans are beginning to equate melo with losing. My bet is he never heard a fan go at him like they did last night. He had 1 good year as a knick and he has not been able to elevate his game to the point where we win games. Right now we are way down on the totem pole and melo is our main guy. He needs to be removed

The Knicks Management has constructed hands down the worst backcourt averaged our over the past decade. You simply can't compete with that. We can direct our anger at Melo but in general we have lacked NBA talent during his tenure here. We can run him out of town and honestly, if I were him I would want out at this point, but as fans we need to keep in mind how bad that will look for the franchise. NY isn't the most attractive destination to the modern athlete to begin with. We need to be careful what we wish for.

This. People can't get a grip on the premise that it takes more than just one star player to win a team sport. Most of these fanatics live in a dreamland where they think one guy should be able to come in here and take them to the promise land. Then they whine like little babies when their unrealistic expectations are not met. They just dont realize the talent level and consistency you need at all 5 positions, specially the back court, as well as solid bench play. Things one guy can't provide by himself. Then they look to make that guy the fall guy and try to replace him with another pipe dream. We just can't keep doing that. I am sure all the teams with losing records are not looking to trade their best player. Just would not make sense. Think this has been the biggest problem with us. Always looking for quick fix.

Would be first to say that Melo is obviously not at his best after coming off knee surgery. But he is still leading in scoring and assists, playing his ass off in D and up there in rebounds on a nightly basis. With bad knees. You need Melo gping forward. And its funny how the guys that knock him and dismiss knee issues as a cause are the same that make excuaes for a 20 year olds drop in numbers due to firat full season. Or claim a guy like Lin, Jimmer, every waived player, mid level draft pick is the answer.

Think we need another big name and an upgrade in the back court. Unfortunately, i dont think its going to happen by next year.

Obviously it takes more than one player to win. You are not telling fans something they don't know. What winning team has a $124mil 31yr old broken down player who no free agents of any significance want to play with. A player who finally after 13yrs in the league started showing signs of playing the right way but is starting to break down from all the wear and tear of playing professionally since 19?

Don't think it's obvious. Specially with your response in which all you do is talk about one guy! Who exactly didn't want to come here? You mean everyone that stayed with their previous team to take advantage of extra year. Or those we told they would have to play a position they did not want to play and had offers from a possible chip winner? Or Monroe who picked a squad with more than one good player and a winning record the year before? Yep, it was cuz of Melo. Come on man, stop. And if you think the triangle and weak roster is not the main reason your just not seeing things straight. And yes, all good teams have at least one max player, ussually more. And btw that broken down 31 yr old with bad knees is still leading this sack of **** roster (in points, assist and up there in bounds) that you feel will attract free agents without him.

+1 - Well said. I'm not really sure what's Ewing's question was but I think it's fair to say Melo isn't the reason we are not getting FAs. At some point we will need to come to the realization that maybe NY isn't that attractive to the modern athlete. We have a pretty unreasonable and aggressive fanbase and the worst media. With fixed salaries we can't overpay so it's a tough sell. The only 2 guys we've obtained were Amare and Chandler. In both instances we paid more than any other team was really willing too.

CrushAlot wrote:

arkrud wrote:For some reason it is all about Melo with the fans.
Which is wrong.
He is no savor but not an obstacle any more.
For a lot of fans he is the only thing they want to see with the Knicks as he is kind of only one remaining false promise for miracles we have.
Put this to rest. He is not. He cannot make mediocre team 50%+ as he used to. And bad team for sure cannot compete just because he is around.
His prime time behind him. Time to adjust for him, for MSG, Dolan, and fans.

Probably has something to do with the thread title.

Title is the firewall to the dream. Knicks Melo dream.
And welcome to post-dream era if Melo wants to participate.
For now he wants. So kudos to him for this sacrifice.

SwishAndDish13 wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

SwishAndDish13 wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Fans are beginning to equate melo with losing. My bet is he never heard a fan go at him like they did last night. He had 1 good year as a knick and he has not been able to elevate his game to the point where we win games. Right now we are way down on the totem pole and melo is our main guy. He needs to be removed

The Knicks Management has constructed hands down the worst backcourt averaged our over the past decade. You simply can't compete with that. We can direct our anger at Melo but in general we have lacked NBA talent during his tenure here. We can run him out of town and honestly, if I were him I would want out at this point, but as fans we need to keep in mind how bad that will look for the franchise. NY isn't the most attractive destination to the modern athlete to begin with. We need to be careful what we wish for.

This. People can't get a grip on the premise that it takes more than just one star player to win a team sport. Most of these fanatics live in a dreamland where they think one guy should be able to come in here and take them to the promise land. Then they whine like little babies when their unrealistic expectations are not met. They just dont realize the talent level and consistency you need at all 5 positions, specially the back court, as well as solid bench play. Things one guy can't provide by himself. Then they look to make that guy the fall guy and try to replace him with another pipe dream. We just can't keep doing that. I am sure all the teams with losing records are not looking to trade their best player. Just would not make sense. Think this has been the biggest problem with us. Always looking for quick fix.

Would be first to say that Melo is obviously not at his best after coming off knee surgery. But he is still leading in scoring and assists, playing his ass off in D and up there in rebounds on a nightly basis. With bad knees. You need Melo gping forward. And its funny how the guys that knock him and dismiss knee issues as a cause are the same that make excuaes for a 20 year olds drop in numbers due to firat full season. Or claim a guy like Lin, Jimmer, every waived player, mid level draft pick is the answer.

Think we need another big name and an upgrade in the back court. Unfortunately, i dont think its going to happen by next year.

Obviously it takes more than one player to win. You are not telling fans something they don't know. What winning team has a $124mil 31yr old broken down player who no free agents of any significance want to play with. A player who finally after 13yrs in the league started showing signs of playing the right way but is starting to break down from all the wear and tear of playing professionally since 19?

Don't think it's obvious. Specially with your response in which all you do is talk about one guy! Who exactly didn't want to come here? You mean everyone that stayed with their previous team to take advantage of extra year. Or those we told they would have to play a position they did not want to play and had offers from a possible chip winner? Or Monroe who picked a squad with more than one good player and a winning record the year before? Yep, it was cuz of Melo. Come on man, stop. And if you think the triangle and weak roster is not the main reason your just not seeing things straight. And yes, all good teams have at least one max player, ussually more. And btw that broken down 31 yr old with bad knees is still leading this sack of **** roster (in points, assist and up there in bounds) that you feel will attract free agents without him.

+1 - Well said. I'm not really sure what's Ewing's question was but I think it's fair to say Melo isn't the reason we are not getting FAs. At some point we will need to come to the realization that maybe NY isn't that attractive to the modern athlete. We have a pretty unreasonable and aggressive fanbase and the worst media. With fixed salaries we can't overpay so it's a tough sell. The only 2 guys we've obtained were Amare and Chandler. In both instances we paid more than any other team was really willing too.

+1 and 1
Isn't it great? When Ewing was breaking down (and before the MeloHate Police get their panties in a knot, I'm in no way saying Melo = Ewing) he went south statistically in everything. Melo's leading the team in everything, has improved his defense, is being touted as a team leader and a mentor, but he's a broken down old waste who:
- should go win a chip with some other team. If he's a broken down waste of salary, why would he be able to do this anywhere?
- unlike Ewing, came here of his own free will, not via the draft. And unlike any other FA stars who take the BS route and go wherever they can play with multiple other starphuchs/friends, Melo came here. And remained here. But that doesn't matter because he got paid. Every other star in the NBA plays for the teams their with instead of NY because they...ummmm...don't like Melo. Because who would want to play with a guy who ... does really well with them when they do play with him, right?

SwishAndDish13 wrote:

y2zipper wrote:

SwishAndDish13 wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:
Don't think it's obvious. Specially with your response in which all you do is talk about one guy! Who exactly didn't want to come here? You mean everyone that stayed with their previous team to take advantage of extra year. Or those we told they would have to play a position they did not want to play and had offers from a possible chip winner? Or Monroe who picked a squad with more than one good player and a winning record the year before? Yep, it was cuz of Melo. Come on man, stop. And if you think the triangle and weak roster is not the main reason your just not seeing things straight. And yes, all good teams have at least one max player, ussually more. And btw that broken down 31 yr old with bad knees is still leading this sack of **** roster (in points, assist and up there in bounds) that you feel will attract free agents without him.

+1 - Well said. I'm not really sure what's Ewing's question was but I think it's fair to say Melo isn't the reason we are not getting FAs. At some point we will need to come to the realization that maybe NY isn't that attractive to the modern athlete. We have a pretty unreasonable and aggressive fanbase and the worst media. With fixed salaries we can't overpay so it's a tough sell. The only 2 guys we've obtained were Amare and Chandler. In both instances we paid more than any other team was really willing too.

I think it's fair to place some blame on Melo for the Knicks not getting free agents. He's clearly not a player that top guys want to play with because if he was, they'd come play with him. There are other reasons for it, too, which mostly have to do with what went on before Phil Jackson got here. With the Knicks drained of their asset this year because it was traded before Phil got here, Phil has to wait out the year and then re-stock the cupboard when he does have assets. They've got Porzingis, who is hopefully gonna be a cornerstone player in the next 3-4 years, but that's about it unless Grant starts to develop and until they get more picks. You do the Melo deal because maybe you'll get somebody and because Melo won't win a lot of games so you can be in the lottery anyway. On top of that, it takes some of the pressure off of Porzingis. But this is not a situatin where the Knicks are going to try to build around Melo and they shouldn't.

I also think that free agents generally don't move so it's an unrealistic expectation to think that New York was going to get guys anyway. Most of the time, the players you really want just don't move because of the extra year and the extra money. That's just the way the CBA works.

Out of curiosity, who has been available that would actually help this roster that has gone elsewhere? Specifically, in the backcourt. Monroe didn't come, which was a blessing, but others weren't really an option. I am in full agreement that the current CBA has a lot to do with it. Just asking the question of who we think Melo could have realistically brought here that he failed too.

The Knicks are clearly drained of assets with little options. It's depressing.

The only way Melo would be able to help with FAs is not resign here.
And back then by signing as FA not get himself traded in for the whole farm.
Now we have no assets... Surprise.

HofstraBBall wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

SwishAndDish13 wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Fans are beginning to equate melo with losing. My bet is he never heard a fan go at him like they did last night. He had 1 good year as a knick and he has not been able to elevate his game to the point where we win games. Right now we are way down on the totem pole and melo is our main guy. He needs to be removed

The Knicks Management has constructed hands down the worst backcourt averaged our over the past decade. You simply can't compete with that. We can direct our anger at Melo but in general we have lacked NBA talent during his tenure here. We can run him out of town and honestly, if I were him I would want out at this point, but as fans we need to keep in mind how bad that will look for the franchise. NY isn't the most attractive destination to the modern athlete to begin with. We need to be careful what we wish for.

This. People can't get a grip on the premise that it takes more than just one star player to win a team sport. Most of these fanatics live in a dreamland where they think one guy should be able to come in here and take them to the promise land. Then they whine like little babies when their unrealistic expectations are not met. They just dont realize the talent level and consistency you need at all 5 positions, specially the back court, as well as solid bench play. Things one guy can't provide by himself. Then they look to make that guy the fall guy and try to replace him with another pipe dream. We just can't keep doing that. I am sure all the teams with losing records are not looking to trade their best player. Just would not make sense. Think this has been the biggest problem with us. Always looking for quick fix.

Would be first to say that Melo is obviously not at his best after coming off knee surgery. But he is still leading in scoring and assists, playing his ass off in D and up there in rebounds on a nightly basis. With bad knees. You need Melo gping forward. And its funny how the guys that knock him and dismiss knee issues as a cause are the same that make excuaes for a 20 year olds drop in numbers due to firat full season. Or claim a guy like Lin, Jimmer, every waived player, mid level draft pick is the answer.

Think we need another big name and an upgrade in the back court. Unfortunately, i dont think its going to happen by next year.

Obviously it takes more than one player to win. You are not telling fans something they don't know. What winning team has a $124mil 31yr old broken down player who no free agents of any significance want to play with. A player who finally after 13yrs in the league started showing signs of playing the right way but is starting to break down from all the wear and tear of playing professionally since 19?

Don't think it's obvious. Specially with your response in which all you do is talk about one guy! Who exactly didn't want to come here? You mean everyone that stayed with their previous team to take advantage of extra year. Or those we told they would have to play a position they did not want to play and had offers from a possible chip winner? Or Monroe who picked a squad with more than one good player and a winning record the year before? Yep, it was cuz of Melo. Come on man, stop. And if you think the triangle and weak roster is not the main reason your just not seeing things straight. And yes, all good teams have at least one max player, ussually more. And btw that broken down 31 yr old with bad knees is still leading this sack of **** roster (in points, assist and up there in bounds) that you feel will attract free agents without him.

Ummm pardon me but wtf are you talking about. You do realize this thread if about Melo regarding Amare's comments about Lin. All I said was that Amare just reaffirmed everything single thing I said about the Lin fiasco 4yrs ago.

I also said Dolan and the fans who bashed Lin deserve a laughing stock organization for years to come. I was right about that one too

gunsnewing wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

SwishAndDish13 wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Fans are beginning to equate melo with losing. My bet is he never heard a fan go at him like they did last night. He had 1 good year as a knick and he has not been able to elevate his game to the point where we win games. Right now we are way down on the totem pole and melo is our main guy. He needs to be removed

The Knicks Management has constructed hands down the worst backcourt averaged our over the past decade. You simply can't compete with that. We can direct our anger at Melo but in general we have lacked NBA talent during his tenure here. We can run him out of town and honestly, if I were him I would want out at this point, but as fans we need to keep in mind how bad that will look for the franchise. NY isn't the most attractive destination to the modern athlete to begin with. We need to be careful what we wish for.

This. People can't get a grip on the premise that it takes more than just one star player to win a team sport. Most of these fanatics live in a dreamland where they think one guy should be able to come in here and take them to the promise land. Then they whine like little babies when their unrealistic expectations are not met. They just dont realize the talent level and consistency you need at all 5 positions, specially the back court, as well as solid bench play. Things one guy can't provide by himself. Then they look to make that guy the fall guy and try to replace him with another pipe dream. We just can't keep doing that. I am sure all the teams with losing records are not looking to trade their best player. Just would not make sense. Think this has been the biggest problem with us. Always looking for quick fix.

Would be first to say that Melo is obviously not at his best after coming off knee surgery. But he is still leading in scoring and assists, playing his ass off in D and up there in rebounds on a nightly basis. With bad knees. You need Melo gping forward. And its funny how the guys that knock him and dismiss knee issues as a cause are the same that make excuaes for a 20 year olds drop in numbers due to firat full season. Or claim a guy like Lin, Jimmer, every waived player, mid level draft pick is the answer.

Think we need another big name and an upgrade in the back court. Unfortunately, i dont think its going to happen by next year.

Obviously it takes more than one player to win. You are not telling fans something they don't know. What winning team has a $124mil 31yr old broken down player who no free agents of any significance want to play with. A player who finally after 13yrs in the league started showing signs of playing the right way but is starting to break down from all the wear and tear of playing professionally since 19?

Don't think it's obvious. Specially with your response in which all you do is talk about one guy! Who exactly didn't want to come here? You mean everyone that stayed with their previous team to take advantage of extra year. Or those we told they would have to play a position they did not want to play and had offers from a possible chip winner? Or Monroe who picked a squad with more than one good player and a winning record the year before? Yep, it was cuz of Melo. Come on man, stop. And if you think the triangle and weak roster is not the main reason your just not seeing things straight. And yes, all good teams have at least one max player, ussually more. And btw that broken down 31 yr old with bad knees is still leading this sack of **** roster (in points, assist and up there in bounds) that you feel will attract free agents without him.

Ummm pardon me but wtf are you talking about. You do realize this thread if about Melo regarding Amare's comments about Lin. All I said was that Amare just reaffirmed everything single thing I said about the Lin fiasco 4yrs ago.

I also said Dolan and the fans who bashed Lin deserve a laughing stock organization for years to come. I was right about that one too

You would have been right if Lin amounted to more than just another journeyman PG. No one on the Knicks "ruined" him.

GustavBahler wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

SwishAndDish13 wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Fans are beginning to equate melo with losing. My bet is he never heard a fan go at him like they did last night. He had 1 good year as a knick and he has not been able to elevate his game to the point where we win games. Right now we are way down on the totem pole and melo is our main guy. He needs to be removed

The Knicks Management has constructed hands down the worst backcourt averaged our over the past decade. You simply can't compete with that. We can direct our anger at Melo but in general we have lacked NBA talent during his tenure here. We can run him out of town and honestly, if I were him I would want out at this point, but as fans we need to keep in mind how bad that will look for the franchise. NY isn't the most attractive destination to the modern athlete to begin with. We need to be careful what we wish for.

This. People can't get a grip on the premise that it takes more than just one star player to win a team sport. Most of these fanatics live in a dreamland where they think one guy should be able to come in here and take them to the promise land. Then they whine like little babies when their unrealistic expectations are not met. They just dont realize the talent level and consistency you need at all 5 positions, specially the back court, as well as solid bench play. Things one guy can't provide by himself. Then they look to make that guy the fall guy and try to replace him with another pipe dream. We just can't keep doing that. I am sure all the teams with losing records are not looking to trade their best player. Just would not make sense. Think this has been the biggest problem with us. Always looking for quick fix.

Would be first to say that Melo is obviously not at his best after coming off knee surgery. But he is still leading in scoring and assists, playing his ass off in D and up there in rebounds on a nightly basis. With bad knees. You need Melo gping forward. And its funny how the guys that knock him and dismiss knee issues as a cause are the same that make excuaes for a 20 year olds drop in numbers due to firat full season. Or claim a guy like Lin, Jimmer, every waived player, mid level draft pick is the answer.

Think we need another big name and an upgrade in the back court. Unfortunately, i dont think its going to happen by next year.

Obviously it takes more than one player to win. You are not telling fans something they don't know. What winning team has a $124mil 31yr old broken down player who no free agents of any significance want to play with. A player who finally after 13yrs in the league started showing signs of playing the right way but is starting to break down from all the wear and tear of playing professionally since 19?

Don't think it's obvious. Specially with your response in which all you do is talk about one guy! Who exactly didn't want to come here? You mean everyone that stayed with their previous team to take advantage of extra year. Or those we told they would have to play a position they did not want to play and had offers from a possible chip winner? Or Monroe who picked a squad with more than one good player and a winning record the year before? Yep, it was cuz of Melo. Come on man, stop. And if you think the triangle and weak roster is not the main reason your just not seeing things straight. And yes, all good teams have at least one max player, ussually more. And btw that broken down 31 yr old with bad knees is still leading this sack of **** roster (in points, assist and up there in bounds) that you feel will attract free agents without him.

Ummm pardon me but wtf are you talking about. You do realize this thread if about Melo regarding Amare's comments about Lin. All I said was that Amare just reaffirmed everything single thing I said about the Lin fiasco 4yrs ago.

I also said Dolan and the fans who bashed Lin deserve a laughing stock organization for years to come. I was right about that one too

You would have been right if Lin amounted to more than just another journeyman PG. No one on the Knicks "ruined" him.

Oh don't mention things like that. Huffing Melohate makes even overpaid, journeyman Toney Douglas backups look like HOF'rs.

On acid indeed.

Rubio and Shump in 2016! Making the Knicks GREAT again!

CrushAlot wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

SwishAndDish13 wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Fans are beginning to equate melo with losing. My bet is he never heard a fan go at him like they did last night. He had 1 good year as a knick and he has not been able to elevate his game to the point where we win games. Right now we are way down on the totem pole and melo is our main guy. He needs to be removed

The Knicks Management has constructed hands down the worst backcourt averaged our over the past decade. You simply can't compete with that. We can direct our anger at Melo but in general we have lacked NBA talent during his tenure here. We can run him out of town and honestly, if I were him I would want out at this point, but as fans we need to keep in mind how bad that will look for the franchise. NY isn't the most attractive destination to the modern athlete to begin with. We need to be careful what we wish for.

This. People can't get a grip on the premise that it takes more than just one star player to win a team sport. Most of these fanatics live in a dreamland where they think one guy should be able to come in here and take them to the promise land. Then they whine like little babies when their unrealistic expectations are not met. They just dont realize the talent level and consistency you need at all 5 positions, specially the back court, as well as solid bench play. Things one guy can't provide by himself. Then they look to make that guy the fall guy and try to replace him with another pipe dream. We just can't keep doing that. I am sure all the teams with losing records are not looking to trade their best player. Just would not make sense. Think this has been the biggest problem with us. Always looking for quick fix.

Would be first to say that Melo is obviously not at his best after coming off knee surgery. But he is still leading in scoring and assists, playing his ass off in D and up there in rebounds on a nightly basis. With bad knees. You need Melo gping forward. And its funny how the guys that knock him and dismiss knee issues as a cause are the same that make excuaes for a 20 year olds drop in numbers due to firat full season. Or claim a guy like Lin, Jimmer, every waived player, mid level draft pick is the answer.

Think we need another big name and an upgrade in the back court. Unfortunately, i dont think its going to happen by next year.

Obviously it takes more than one player to win. You are not telling fans something they don't know. What winning team has a $124mil 31yr old broken down player who no free agents of any significance want to play with. A player who finally after 13yrs in the league started showing signs of playing the right way but is starting to break down from all the wear and tear of playing professionally since 19?

Don't think it's obvious. Specially with your response in which all you do is talk about one guy! Who exactly didn't want to come here? You mean everyone that stayed with their previous team to take advantage of extra year. Or those we told they would have to play a position they did not want to play and had offers from a possible chip winner? Or Monroe who picked a squad with more than one good player and a winning record the year before? Yep, it was cuz of Melo. Come on man, stop. And if you think the triangle and weak roster is not the main reason your just not seeing things straight. And yes, all good teams have at least one max player, ussually more. And btw that broken down 31 yr old with bad knees is still leading this sack of **** roster (in points, assist and up there in bounds) that you feel will attract free agents without him.

Ummm pardon me but wtf are you talking about. You do realize this thread if about Melo regarding Amare's comments about Lin. All I said was that Amare just reaffirmed everything single thing I said about the Lin fiasco 4yrs ago.

I also said Dolan and the fans who bashed Lin deserve a laughing stock organization for years to come. I was right about that one too

Lin wanted to get paid. Nothing wrong with that but there is no need to spin things to say he was chased out of NY. Lin fired his agent and sat out of USA Basketball because it might jeopardize his free agency. The guy was making sure he got the best contract he could. Nothing wrong with that but there is also nothing wrong when other players negotiate the contract that they want.
In regards to Lin bashing, I could be wrong but I think that occurred as a result of his cult status as a hero figure here. I don't remember any fan at the time of Linsanity bashing Lin. I could be wrong but I think everyone was excited about him and the win streak.

The only bashing I heard was when I suggested early on that Lin was going to come back down to earth. Thought he would still put up decent numbers, but not like we saw during that run.

HofstraBBall wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

SwishAndDish13 wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Fans are beginning to equate melo with losing. My bet is he never heard a fan go at him like they did last night. He had 1 good year as a knick and he has not been able to elevate his game to the point where we win games. Right now we are way down on the totem pole and melo is our main guy. He needs to be removed

The Knicks Management has constructed hands down the worst backcourt averaged our over the past decade. You simply can't compete with that. We can direct our anger at Melo but in general we have lacked NBA talent during his tenure here. We can run him out of town and honestly, if I were him I would want out at this point, but as fans we need to keep in mind how bad that will look for the franchise. NY isn't the most attractive destination to the modern athlete to begin with. We need to be careful what we wish for.

This. People can't get a grip on the premise that it takes more than just one star player to win a team sport. Most of these fanatics live in a dreamland where they think one guy should be able to come in here and take them to the promise land. Then they whine like little babies when their unrealistic expectations are not met. They just dont realize the talent level and consistency you need at all 5 positions, specially the back court, as well as solid bench play. Things one guy can't provide by himself. Then they look to make that guy the fall guy and try to replace him with another pipe dream. We just can't keep doing that. I am sure all the teams with losing records are not looking to trade their best player. Just would not make sense. Think this has been the biggest problem with us. Always looking for quick fix.

Would be first to say that Melo is obviously not at his best after coming off knee surgery. But he is still leading in scoring and assists, playing his ass off in D and up there in rebounds on a nightly basis. With bad knees. You need Melo gping forward. And its funny how the guys that knock him and dismiss knee issues as a cause are the same that make excuaes for a 20 year olds drop in numbers due to firat full season. Or claim a guy like Lin, Jimmer, every waived player, mid level draft pick is the answer.

Think we need another big name and an upgrade in the back court. Unfortunately, i dont think its going to happen by next year.

Obviously it takes more than one player to win. You are not telling fans something they don't know. What winning team has a $124mil 31yr old broken down player who no free agents of any significance want to play with. A player who finally after 13yrs in the league started showing signs of playing the right way but is starting to break down from all the wear and tear of playing professionally since 19?

Don't think it's obvious. Specially with your response in which all you do is talk about one guy! Who exactly didn't want to come here? You mean everyone that stayed with their previous team to take advantage of extra year. Or those we told they would have to play a position they did not want to play and had offers from a possible chip winner? Or Monroe who picked a squad with more than one good player and a winning record the year before? Yep, it was cuz of Melo. Come on man, stop. And if you think the triangle and weak roster is not the main reason your just not seeing things straight. And yes, all good teams have at least one max player, ussually more. And btw that broken down 31 yr old with bad knees is still leading this sack of **** roster (in points, assist and up there in bounds) that you feel will attract free agents without him.

Ummm pardon me but wtf are you talking about. You do realize this thread if about Melo regarding Amare's comments about Lin. All I said was that Amare just reaffirmed everything single thing I said about the Lin fiasco 4yrs ago.

I also said Dolan and the fans who bashed Lin deserve a laughing stock organization for years to come. I was right about that one too

Umm pardon me but WTF are you talking about?? Do you read your own.posts? Funny you stated its obvious. Responding to what you said above. Uhhh.no? And in case you haven't been on twitter today, STAT said he wasn't talking about Melo. So...

And if this is about Lin, what a waste of time. Rockets really came out ahead on that deal. Who would of paid that contract demand with the third year poison pill? It's a shame because he played so well in Houston they got rid of him. Then he played so well on the Lakers that they dropped him.too. Now Charlotte, stay tuned. It's been 4 years and your still blaming Melo for losing your Lin? Let it go bro.

wait... you didn't know that melo got the rockets and lakers to both drop lin too? melo has A LOT of pull around the league