knickscity wrote:Jimmer's defense defense might be as bad as Calderon's. But since all of our guards are trash, might as well bring in another. He could possibly play any worse than the ones we got.

fitzfarm wrote:

EnySpree wrote:Don't sleep on the kids ability to get to the basket. I can see him doing what Galloway and Calderón do but more prolific.

Agreed jimmer brings a lot of elements that the back court is missing... Scoring, getting to the hoop, pushing the tempo, transition 3's. I hope they give him the ball and let him do what he can do... Sorry frank jimmer is about to hit his prime basketball age and brings a hell of a lot more to the Knicks then Jose ... Jose might not even make a dleague rotation let alone start ... Jose it's time to retire.

I don't like Jose as a starting PG, but I think he can be serviceable if used as THE backup SG

nyknickzingis wrote:Fredette knows the Triangle, knows how to shoot and also can penetrate a defense. He's best off with the starters though, where you have 2 bigs to cover for you on defense and also have lots more freedom with defenses geared towards stopping KP, Melo etc.

Can't hate Jose. Ultimate team player. He'll be coming off the bench next year if he's a Knick.

You could say that about the posters here on UK, but can any of us help the big club win games? We are just not NBA talent, and neither is Jimmer. I think we are all stuck in the sink hole of - anything is better then what we are getting now from our guards now.

Personally my only interest in Fredette is that he is someone of interest that I will watch a game just to see if he gets minutes and what he does. I am a fan and I am bored, that's pretty much it. Jimmer is not a PG for a playoff team, but we suck so lets give him a turn. We will all wait till the last 2 minutes of a game to see if coach puts him in. We will all groan when he doesn't even dress for a game. It's Jimmer time!

nixluva wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/FisolaNYDN/status/700806726128283649

Isola doesn't usually go after Begley.

Yeah this guy is something else. Plus he's wrong in that there will remain interest in Jimmer and if he does actually play well that will lead to more stories. Isola, some media guys and some fans are so convinced this is a bad team. They can't imagine that the Knicks could go on a run. It's not impossible as they try to make it sound. Any team that has lost as many super close games has a chance to go on a run if they get rolling.

He's 100% right.

Jimmer has been garbage since he's been in the league, and if you take away jose and grants minutes for some d leaguer who has blown every chance he had to be on a NBA roster even as a 15th man, what does that say about 11 yr vet, and a promising rookie, that there not even d league material.

What does that say about phil who traded for both those players only to have a d leaguer replace them

knicks1248 wrote:

nixluva wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/FisolaNYDN/status/700806726128283649

Isola doesn't usually go after Begley.

Yeah this guy is something else. Plus he's wrong in that there will remain interest in Jimmer and if he does actually play well that will lead to more stories. Isola, some media guys and some fans are so convinced this is a bad team. They can't imagine that the Knicks could go on a run. It's not impossible as they try to make it sound. Any team that has lost as many super close games has a chance to go on a run if they get rolling.

He's 100% right.

Jimmer has been garbage since he's been in the league, and if you take away jose and grants minutes for some d leaguer who has blown every chance he had to be on a NBA roster even as a 15th man, what does that say about 11 yr vet, and a promising rookie, that there not even d league material.

What does that say about phil who traded for both those players only to have a d leaguer replace them

I'd have to say Jose probably not starting material in even the d league ... Can't penetrate, needs at least 4 feet of room just to be 50 % from downtown when he's givin 2 feet of room 20% . Cant defend probably makes jimmer look like a good defender... Jose can't even create for himself or his teammates on offense. Jose is a 15th man on most NBA teams and no one would ever pay 7 mil for a 15th man ... Jimmer is not a star but to say he's worse then the worst starting pg in the NBA after winning mvp is a down right insult to jimmer ... Jimmer would destroy Jose one on one all day long

nyknickzingis wrote:Fredette has NBA level shooting ability and also has good speed on the break. Given the opportunity Jose has, it wouldn't surprise me that he'd score 13-15 points on a consistent basis. The issue is that his defense is just as bad as Jose and that he is streaky. He can go for 25 one night, 3 the next. He's like Galloway in that regard.

Except that Galloway has grit and can actually defend to an extent.

Yea Jose can't do what this kid can do even in the dleague ...can't wait to see this kid change our back court ... He at least can hit open shots and drive to the hole ...24-9assists,7rebs

Who cares if his defense isn't great. Jose is the worst defensive pg and worst all around pg in the league.

I hope they give this kid the ball and say go have fun.