knicks1248 wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:

nixluva wrote:If they came to MELO with this deal he'd be a fool not to take it. It makes all kinds of sense for all involved.

Except for the fact that he'd have to leave New York City for Cleveland.

really, how many rings did LBJ win with his super friends, 2 out of 4. Again, It's a huge risk when you have a injury prone Kyrie as your option 1A, and with a guy like JR who pulls whodini acts in the playoffs, and shumpert who can't shoot..he would be rather stupid to waive his NTC for that deal. I would rather go to boston

I think the only place that would really make Melo stop and think is the LA Clippers and Chris Paul.

And on Saturday with NBA XM Sirius Radio, the Knicks star once again shut down that talk.

Angry Melo on Sirius: "Always some trade crap going around now. I'm not going anywhere."

That's pretty blunt. Anthony is one of the few players in the league that owns a no-trade clause, so ultimately, he gets to make this decision. It is, however, a little baffling that he's this dead set on staying with the Knicks. It's admirable, in that he loves the town and wants to be the franchise icon even if that means never winning a title and missing the playoffs regularly. There are also financial concerns in that Anthony has business and media opportunities he would not have elsewhere, and personal concerns, in that his family is now firmly rooted in New York.

But Anthony needs to seriously reconsider this if he's being honest that he's set against it. His legacy matters. He's one of the best scorers of his generation and has the potential at this point in his career, in a very small window, to add a title and change the narrative of his career. He won't be able to do that in New York. Meanwhile, the Knicks really need to go young. It made no sense to keep Melo two years ago, and it makes very little sense to keep Melo now. Kristaps Porzingis is a revelation, but he's still not going to be at "second-best player on a title team" for a few years. The Knicks' free agency pull has not been what it expected the last few years.

If Anthony just doesn't want to leave New York, that's his decision. But the opportunities that exist outside the bubble are something he seriously needs to consider, not just for his sake, but for what it could mean for the Knicks' future."

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/25482705/knicks-carmelo-anthony-on-trade-rumors-im-not-going-anywhere

gunsnewing wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:

nixluva wrote:If they came to MELO with this deal he'd be a fool not to take it. It makes all kinds of sense for all involved.

Except for the fact that he'd have to leave New York City for Cleveland.

really, how many rings did LBJ win with his super friends, 2 out of 4. Again, It's a huge risk when you have a injury prone Kyrie as your option 1A, and with a guy like JR who pulls whodini acts in the playoffs, and shumpert who can't shoot..he would be rather stupid to waive his NTC for that deal. I would rather go to boston

I think the only place that would really make Melo stop and think is the LA Clippers and Chris Paul.

Disagree. Much Better chance of winning in Cleveland unless Melo just wants to be in LA and not Cleveland. LAC is not getting by GS OR SA with an aging Melo. Lebron is still the best or 2nd best player in the game. He is still capable of carrying a team on his back. He already carried Miami to 2 championships with a broken down Wade. Melo is less broken down at this point and he will be more of a contributor. Still not lock to beat GS or SA but much better odds of winning than with the Clips

I didn't say best chance of winning a ring. I said the only place that would make Melo stop and think.

Partly because I don't think Melo wants to win a ring in Lebron's shadow. If he won a ring in Cleveland, it would be Bron's title. If he won in LA with CP3 - it would be a shared ring. CP3 has never even made the conference finals. If Melo helped him get over the top, it'd be a shared thing.

If Melo won with Bron, it'd be Bron bringing a title back to Cleveland.

CashMoney wrote:Bottom line is that Melo doesn't care about winning. If he did he would have went to the Bulls during free agency. I believe Melo would be a great fit with LBJ in Cleveland but there is no way Melo would agree to go to Cleveland. I read something some time ago where Melo said that when he goes to Cleveland on road trips he doesn't leave the hotel.

He's here to stay fells. Guess he feels that NYC is the best place for his "brand."

You're assuming quite a lot here. Maybe Melo would rather win in NY than go to Cleveland. Any ring in Cleveland would be Lebron bringing a chip "back to the 'Land". Maybe Melo would rather bring a chip back to NY, a place he has a connection to.

And, frankly, my parents lived outside Cleveland for three years and it was terrible. I wouldn't want to live there. It's one of the most depressing cities I've ever visited.

CrushAlot wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

CashMoney wrote:Bottom line is that Melo doesn't care about winning. If he did he would have went to the Bulls during free agency. I believe Melo would be a great fit with LBJ in Cleveland but there is no way Melo would agree to go to Cleveland. I read something some time ago where Melo said that when he goes to Cleveland on road trips he doesn't leave the hotel.

He's here to stay fells. Guess he feels that NYC is the best place for his "brand."

You're assuming quite a lot here. Maybe Melo would rather win in NY than go to Cleveland. Any ring in Cleveland would be Lebron bringing a chip "back to the 'Land". Maybe Melo would rather bring a chip back to NY, a place he has a connection to.

And, frankly, my parents lived outside Cleveland for three years and it was terrible. I wouldn't want to live there. It's one of the most depressing cities I've ever visited.

Have you been to Buffalo?

Hahaha touché. I haven't. Getting to know Cleveland only made it worse though.

CrushAlot wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

CashMoney wrote:Bottom line is that Melo doesn't care about winning. If he did he would have went to the Bulls during free agency. I believe Melo would be a great fit with LBJ in Cleveland but there is no way Melo would agree to go to Cleveland. I read something some time ago where Melo said that when he goes to Cleveland on road trips he doesn't leave the hotel.

He's here to stay fells. Guess he feels that NYC is the best place for his "brand."

You're assuming quite a lot here. Maybe Melo would rather win in NY than go to Cleveland. Any ring in Cleveland would be Lebron bringing a chip "back to the 'Land". Maybe Melo would rather bring a chip back to NY, a place he has a connection to.

And, frankly, my parents lived outside Cleveland for three years and it was terrible. I wouldn't want to live there. It's one of the most depressing cities I've ever visited.

Have you been to Buffalo?

Of course I was there in the late 70's, and I was young and stupid.

Don't know how it is today.

CashMoney wrote:Bottom line is that Melo doesn't care about winning. If he did he would have went to the Bulls during free agency. I believe Melo would be a great fit with LBJ in Cleveland but there is no way Melo would agree to go to Cleveland. I read something some time ago where Melo said that when he goes to Cleveland on road trips he doesn't leave the hotel.

He's here to stay fells. Guess he feels that NYC is the best place for his "brand."

Have to figure that the recent weeks have taken a toll on him...who knows what he is thinking now.

CashMoney wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

CashMoney wrote:Bottom line is that Melo doesn't care about winning. If he did he would have went to the Bulls during free agency. I believe Melo would be a great fit with LBJ in Cleveland but there is no way Melo would agree to go to Cleveland. I read something some time ago where Melo said that when he goes to Cleveland on road trips he doesn't leave the hotel.

He's here to stay fells. Guess he feels that NYC is the best place for his "brand."

You're assuming quite a lot here. Maybe Melo would rather win in NY than go to Cleveland. Any ring in Cleveland would be Lebron bringing a chip "back to the 'Land". Maybe Melo would rather bring a chip back to NY, a place he has a connection to.

And, frankly, my parents lived outside Cleveland for three years and it was terrible. I wouldn't want to live there. It's one of the most depressing cities I've ever visited.

The problem is Melo is not going to win in NY. He's already breaking down and as each year passes he's another year older. No draft picks this year but cap room. Another problem is that no one looks like they want to play for the Knicks.

I'm a Melo fan but he's not a fit for the Knicks. We are no where close to putting together a championship roster anytime soon. Melo moved to Baltimore when he was 8. He has as much of a connection to the Wizards as he does the Knicks.

CashMoney wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

CashMoney wrote:Bottom line is that Melo doesn't care about winning. If he did he would have went to the Bulls during free agency. I believe Melo would be a great fit with LBJ in Cleveland but there is no way Melo would agree to go to Cleveland. I read something some time ago where Melo said that when he goes to Cleveland on road trips he doesn't leave the hotel.

He's here to stay fells. Guess he feels that NYC is the best place for his "brand."

You're assuming quite a lot here. Maybe Melo would rather win in NY than go to Cleveland. Any ring in Cleveland would be Lebron bringing a chip "back to the 'Land". Maybe Melo would rather bring a chip back to NY, a place he has a connection to.

And, frankly, my parents lived outside Cleveland for three years and it was terrible. I wouldn't want to live there. It's one of the most depressing cities I've ever visited.

The problem is Melo is not going to win in NY. He's already breaking down and as each year passes he's another year older. No draft picks this year but cap room. Another problem is that no one looks like they want to play for the Knicks.

I'm a Melo fan but he's not a fit for the Knicks. We are no where close to putting together a championship roster anytime soon. Melo moved to Baltimore when he was 8. He has as much of a connection to the Wizards as he does the Knicks.

We can't say MELO isn't going to win in NY. With KP already showing so much promise it's very possible this team can get going with the right additions. This team is competitive but lacking the right ingredients to get over the top. It's not impossible for them to fill their needs.

callmened wrote:but you just said it...they "lack the right ingredients"...Melo is getting older. i just think he has a better chance on winning elsewhere - specifically on a team with better ingredients.

True. But again it's Melo's decision