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This is a bad time to trade Melo. He's hobbled from knee problems, probably wouldnt get a great deal out of him in a playoff run. Griffin is younger and his injury is less severe and chronic.

Give Melo time to heal before possibly trading him, value is low right now for a player who could fund a fast rebuild with youth and experience.

He had 33pts 13rebs on Tuesday. He's not hobbled all that much.

This is the best time to trade him for our team.

Clippers, for instance, would overpay now and not in the summer.

Not the point, Melo is having knee problems at the all star break, he wont be traded to anything but a contender. If I were a GM who had to take on Melo's long term deal at 32 , I would rather wait until the end of the season to see how his knee is doing before making the call. I would need some enticement to do something now.

Would Taj Gibson be enticing enough, along with Melo?

Melo is a huge cap hit for multiple years, I doubt he's traded until a team does some due diligence. I could be wrong but if Phil was willing to trade Melo now, they might wonder just how bad the knee is doing. Just my guess.

You really think teams around the league aren't paying attention to the Knicks? The reason to trade Melo would be to get Melo to a good team and to start a real rebuild of the Knicks. Of course anyone would look at his knee.

And Melo is 30, not 32. CP3 is also 30, don't know why I thought he was 33.

It makes perfect sense to pair Melo and CP3 - the Clippers would be crazy not to try it.

Melo is 31, he turns 32 in May according to wikipedia. They would have more time to look into it. I dont see Rivers doing this now because Melo's knee could be worse in a few months and GS will probably be at full strength. They also have to get on the same page.

I wouldnt trade for Melo until I had a more complete picture.

yellowboy90 wrote:If Phil loves ball movement does this mean that Afflalo will be traded? The old Melo is hurting ball movement routine is really a thing of the past.

Melo moves the ball much more often than he moves his body --- Phil (triangle) wants ball/people movement --- triangle basically stops when Melo on court.

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yellowboy90 wrote:If Phil loves ball movement does this mean that Afflalo will be traded? The old Melo is hurting ball movement routine is really a thing of the past.

Melo moves the ball much more often than he moves his body --- Phil (triangle) wants ball/people movement --- triangle basically stops when Melo on court.

I think you really can't make a case that Melo is bad for the Triangle. He can post and pass effectively and he can also run PnR really well. In any event he's a good fit in the Triangle. He doesn't have to be in constant motion cuz he's the post player that can draw doubles and pass out. When Melo is the ball handler our offense works so much better and that just shows that he's a good fit.

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LivingLegend wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:If Phil loves ball movement does this mean that Afflalo will be traded? The old Melo is hurting ball movement routine is really a thing of the past.

Melo moves the ball much more often than he moves his body --- Phil (triangle) wants ball/people movement --- triangle basically stops when Melo on court.

I think you really can't make a case that Melo is bad for the Triangle. He can post and pass effectively and he can also run PnR really well. In any event he's a good fit in the Triangle. He doesn't have to be in constant motion cuz he's the post player that can draw doubles and pass out. When Melo is the ball handler our offense works so much better and that just shows that he's a good fit.

I disagree. The triangle puts Melo in position to make plays but Melo doesn't run the triangle -- I haven't seen him make a hard cut this year -- the teams basically plays in triangle concepts around Melo and it's a glaring reason why our running of the triangle has often looked so disjointed. Even Phil stated the other day how good the team looked without Melo -- that statement was a clear reference to Knicks offense flowing better without Melo regardless if he is their most talented player. Those are 2 different things. Melo has always got his on his own in his own way -- he still does that today outside the parameters of th triangle.

Cannot teach the old dog new tricks.
Melo is way beyond established player.
He is playing on instinct all his carrier and expect him to play in the system is absurd.
He will be a great bench player for us one day when he will not be able to play more that 20 min.
But this is 2 years wait.

93BUICK wrote:The New York sports media is so stupid and reactive with what a team "should" do with a huge move for their highest paid player- The are always pushing teams to sell low on the biggest star - Smart teams never do that- Melo is a perfect David Robinson to KP's Duncan here- panicking on a sore knee 1st year after surgery and forcing the issue W a trade- I don't see it helping. Afflack Jose I don't see them on a great team. KP and Melo yes. Rolo Jerian maybe Lance yes off the bench- it's seeing who could be there at the great moment- KP and Melo can shine and are team players. I don't throw that away. Too rare in Knicks history.

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LivingLegend wrote:

nixluva wrote:

LivingLegend wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:If Phil loves ball movement does this mean that Afflalo will be traded? The old Melo is hurting ball movement routine is really a thing of the past.

Melo moves the ball much more often than he moves his body --- Phil (triangle) wants ball/people movement --- triangle basically stops when Melo on court.

I think you really can't make a case that Melo is bad for the Triangle. He can post and pass effectively and he can also run PnR really well. In any event he's a good fit in the Triangle. He doesn't have to be in constant motion cuz he's the post player that can draw doubles and pass out. When Melo is the ball handler our offense works so much better and that just shows that he's a good fit.

I disagree. The triangle puts Melo in position to make plays but Melo doesn't run the triangle -- I haven't seen him make a hard cut this year -- the teams basically plays in triangle concepts around Melo and it's a glaring reason why our running of the triangle has often looked so disjointed. Even Phil stated the other day how good the team looked without Melo -- that statement was a clear reference to Knicks offense flowing better without Melo regardless if he is their most talented player. Those are 2 different things. Melo has always got his on his own in his own way -- he still does that today outside the parameters of th triangle.

Cannot teach the old dog new tricks.
Melo is way beyond established player.
He is playing on instinct all his carrier and expect him to play in the system is absurd.
He will be a great bench player for us one day when he will not be able to play more that 20 min.
But this is 2 years wait.

Please explain Melo's increasing number of assists per month. Or don't; just trade Melo for lower value and embrace your hate. Maybe you can spend some time explaining even why Melo is primarily responsible for the 6 or 7 losses that he hasn't even played in.

exactly this.
assists in nov - 3 per game
assists in dec - 4 per game
assists in jan - 5 per game
4 games played in Feb - Assists 4,8,7,2 that's an average of 5+