Bonn1997 wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

crzymdups wrote:I said he might be in danger a few weeks back and someone said no way, no chance.

But this isn't surprising. Their scheme wastes Kevin Love and doesn't take advantage of Kyrie's pressence enough.

Also, I watched some of the LAC/CLE game last night and Blatt kept looking to Tyronne Lue and asking him what to do, which I thought was strange.

I bet they name Lue head coach, at least for the rest of the year.

Bet you are right about Lue. From afar it looks like Lue has been bailing Blatt out since he became coach. Impressive credentials coming in, looked like a bad combination of having a contender thrust upon him instead of the rebuilding job Blatt thought he would be working on, and a lack of experience. Seemed out of his element from the start.

Blatt was an experienced coach overseas, but never had to deal with someone like James. My gut feeling is that Lebron, from the start, was unwilling to play the kind of offense Blatt wanted to install...and there was no way Blatt was going to win that battle.

If I remember correctly, I think James had issues with Spolestra at first, but in that situation the coach was backed by Riley's rings and Wade, another superstar, who had already taken Miami to a title.

James want Love...the Cavs make the trade.

James wants the Cavs to overpay blue collar guys like Thompson and Shump with limited, but important, skills who don't get into Lebron's way on offense...the Cavs sign them.

James is tired, and wants to take himself out...he does it without permission.

Shumpert probably hurts himself doing some show-off stuff before the season and is out for the first part of the season...must be Blatt's fault.

Irving unable to start for most of the season...Mosgov not the same player since his operation- got to find someone to blame this stuff on.

Blatt was going to be hired by Kerr in GS as his offensive guru, I think, but James and the Cavs seem unable to run a sophisticated offense, and frequently revert to 1/1 ball.

Look at the Knicks and how it should be done. Got to give Phil, Fish, and Anthony credit for not putting the team through the same stuff the Cavs are going through.

Just heard that Blatt was .500 vs teams with .600 or better record this year. I have no doubt that LeBron was a handful, thats why I mentioned Blatt having a contender thrust upon him.

If Blatt had the time to learn the NBA game while the team was rebuilding, I believe over time he would have been successful. Blatt admitted that he was getting used to the length of the NBA game, had problem with rotations because of it. On a rebuilding team its not a big deal, on a contender, it is.

How many teams have above .500 records against the .600 or better teams? Also, you're probably looking at a sample of only like 15 games.
It's hard to say a coach wasn't successful when the team was winning 75% of its games.

Dont know either. Do know that the Cavs want home court advantage for their playoff run, they're .500 in their own division, and have the 4th best record in the league. Less than half a season to go, they decided to go with someone who isnt afraid to call out the stars, who they thought would do a better job vs. other coaches in the playoffs.

If Lue hadnt stopped Blatt from calling that TO in the playoffs, Blatt would have likely been out of a job. Lue seems like the smart, take charge, no BS coach they need.

GustavBahler wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

crzymdups wrote:I said he might be in danger a few weeks back and someone said no way, no chance.

But this isn't surprising. Their scheme wastes Kevin Love and doesn't take advantage of Kyrie's pressence enough.

Also, I watched some of the LAC/CLE game last night and Blatt kept looking to Tyronne Lue and asking him what to do, which I thought was strange.

I bet they name Lue head coach, at least for the rest of the year.

Bet you are right about Lue. From afar it looks like Lue has been bailing Blatt out since he became coach. Impressive credentials coming in, looked like a bad combination of having a contender thrust upon him instead of the rebuilding job Blatt thought he would be working on, and a lack of experience. Seemed out of his element from the start.

Blatt was an experienced coach overseas, but never had to deal with someone like James. My gut feeling is that Lebron, from the start, was unwilling to play the kind of offense Blatt wanted to install...and there was no way Blatt was going to win that battle.

If I remember correctly, I think James had issues with Spolestra at first, but in that situation the coach was backed by Riley's rings and Wade, another superstar, who had already taken Miami to a title.

James want Love...the Cavs make the trade.

James wants the Cavs to overpay blue collar guys like Thompson and Shump with limited, but important, skills who don't get into Lebron's way on offense...the Cavs sign them.

James is tired, and wants to take himself out...he does it without permission.

Shumpert probably hurts himself doing some show-off stuff before the season and is out for the first part of the season...must be Blatt's fault.

Irving unable to start for most of the season...Mosgov not the same player since his operation- got to find someone to blame this stuff on.

Blatt was going to be hired by Kerr in GS as his offensive guru, I think, but James and the Cavs seem unable to run a sophisticated offense, and frequently revert to 1/1 ball.

Look at the Knicks and how it should be done. Got to give Phil, Fish, and Anthony credit for not putting the team through the same stuff the Cavs are going through.

Just heard that Blatt was .500 vs teams with .600 or better record this year. I have no doubt that LeBron was a handful, thats why I mentioned Blatt having a contender thrust upon him.

If Blatt had the time to learn the NBA game while the team was rebuilding, I believe over time he would have been successful. Blatt admitted that he was getting used to the length of the NBA game, had problem with rotations because of it. On a rebuilding team its not a big deal, on a contender, it is.

How many teams have above .500 records against the .600 or better teams? Also, you're probably looking at a sample of only like 15 games.
It's hard to say a coach wasn't successful when the team was winning 75% of its games.

Dont know either. Do know that the Cavs want home court advantage for their playoff run, they're .500 in their own division, and have the 4th best record in the league. Less than half a season to go, they decided to go with someone who isnt afraid to call out the stars, who they thought would do a better job vs. other coaches in the playoffs.

If Lue hadnt stopped Blatt from calling that TO in the playoffs, Blatt would have likely been out of a job. Lue seems like the smart, take charge, no BS coach they need.

CrushAlot wrote:Reading some of the articles here:http://www.slicksports.com/nba/cavaliers/. Lue sounds like a very thoughtful guy and a guy that will make a good head coach.

I heard Lue in an interview yesterday, he talked about balancing having two great ISO players on the team, and his desire to run more. Fisher aside, we've had coaches who didn't try to find a balance between their offensive schemes, and the strenghts of their team. Lue has spent a lot of time getting ready for this opportunity, he looks like he's ready for it.

Clean wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

markvmc wrote:I have no idea what's going on here either way, and it does seem like the obvious thing is that this is down to Lebron, but the article is rather big on claims and short on sources.

I came in here to post that article. Woj has more sources than anyone in the entire league. He also ocassionally has an axe to grind with Lebron though - so it might be taken with a grain of salt. I remember a post-Decision (taking my talents to South Beach) article that was pretty damning of Lebron.

I don't doubt most of the facts of the article are accurate - though I think Woj presented them in a kind of negative light. Of course Lebron is going to try to angle to get a coach of his choosing in there. Of course he's going to have a say in roster construction. He's the greatest basketball player of his generation and came back to Cleveland, a franchise that had no rudder and no direction after he left and immediately got back to the Finals when he returned.

I think it's clear he had input in Blatt's removal - but it was also clear that Blatt was outmatched when they played teams like San Antonio and Golden State - the two teams they have to beat if they want to win a ring. Cleveland has no system, no real offense. They need one. Is Lue the guy to do it? Can any coach really challenge Lebron with him having total power? It seems like a messy situation.

The one era I disliked Melo was when it seemed like he and CAA were calling all the shots in NY from the end of the 2012 season (Lin's exit) to the Bargnani trade. I think it doesn't work to run an organization like that. Phil has come in and got Melo to buy in to a better style of play and made moves like the Porzingis pick that Melo would never have been on board with in the CAA days. I'm glad that era passed here.

Dudes who gave Riley no credit in Miami are about to see what it looks like when Lebron is truly running the ship.

The last line you typed is so true. I remember the 1st season with the Heat Lebron wanted Coach Spo fired. He was doing the same things he later did with Blatt. He would never actually say he wanted a new coach but he would make it very clear through his actions. Lebrons pouting came to an end once it was known that Riley was not about to fire the coach he groomed for that very moment.

Here is a tweet of a Heat owner confirming Lebron tried to get Coach Spo fired.

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/IAmDPick/status/692064760595095552