crzymdups wrote:

martin wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:If the Knicks signed a FA(Batum) to a salary starting at $19m how much would you want the knicks to try to keep D.Will? Yes, he has to continue to play like he has been. Would you stretch Calderon to give him $10m and try to get AA to resign for a 120% increase? Another option would be to trade O'Quinn for peanuts and try to being Willy H over for a rookie min. So what would you want the knicks to do? Waive goodbye?

Your assumption is that DWill is going to want $10M per? For me, even with cap of $89M, that is overpaying by about $5M.

I offer DWill the %20 raise we can give him - so up to $6M annually. IF we can get Batum, my priority is to keep one of AAA or DWill - not necessarily both.

The ideal scenario would be to give both AA, Thomas and D will that 20% raise in 2016 with a player option for one more year and then use their bird rights to go over the cap after signing a marquee FA in 2017.

That would leave the knicks about 14 - 16 Mil in cap space to go after Batum or Conley. The kick is both guys could (and would) likely receive bigger offers where they are now. The only reason they would come is because they would see NY as a better destination. That doesn't happen in NY but who knows maybe Melo, KP, and the rest of the roster (along with the playing in the triangle) is enough to convince somebody to take a slight pay cut. Give Phil credit it seems to be a theme in FA that people come here and leave some money on the table to help make room for others.

I think for basketball triangle reasons outside of resigning the guys we have now to decent deals, Batum or Conley are the two most obvious fits for the triangle and what the current roster needs.

martin wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:If the Knicks signed a FA(Batum) to a salary starting at $19m how much would you want the knicks to try to keep D.Will? Yes, he has to continue to play like he has been. Would you stretch Calderon to give him $10m and try to get AA to resign for a 120% increase? Another option would be to trade O'Quinn for peanuts and try to being Willy H over for a rookie min. So what would you want the knicks to do? Waive goodbye?

Your assumption is that DWill is going to want $10M per? For me, even with cap of $89M, that is overpaying by about $5M.

It's just a question to gage the thinking of the board and how they would feel about D.Will if he kept up his play all year. What I really want to know is if you would sacrifice an older vet for D/Will you still has upside. He might be just coming into his natural growth trajectory. The best case is he excepts and low offer but the best case last summer where team options on a lesser salary. D.Will received almost $5m coming off several bad years with slight personal improvements in areas here but with a step back there. So how much would he get if he came off a good year?

As an armchair GM I just like to look at different scenarios.

mreinman wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

martin wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:If the Knicks signed a FA(Batum) to a salary starting at $19m how much would you want the knicks to try to keep D.Will? Yes, he has to continue to play like he has been. Would you stretch Calderon to give him $10m and try to get AA to resign for a 120% increase? Another option would be to trade O'Quinn for peanuts and try to being Willy H over for a rookie min. So what would you want the knicks to do? Waive goodbye?

Your assumption is that DWill is going to want $10M per? For me, even with cap of $89M, that is overpaying by about $5M.

It's just a question to gage the thinking of the board and how they would feel about D.Will if he kept up his play all year. What I really want to know is if you would sacrifice an older vet for D/Will you still has upside. He might be just coming into his natural growth trajectory. The best case is he excepts and low offer but the best case last summer where team options on a lesser salary. D.Will received almost $5m coming off several bad years with slight personal improvements in areas here but with a step back there. So how much would he get if he came off a good year?

As an armchair GM I just like to look at different scenarios.

I would dog house him until the off season so we have a shot.

Heck the nets are liable to give him money just on last night game. Someone needs to get AA some "legit" local endoresement money so he can take a David West pay cut. AA takes one for the team and takes the room exception.(never happen).

AA I think about it more, the main reason I would like to keep AA is because he would make a nice offensive 6th man but that's exactly the role D.Will would continue to play as he (hopefully) continues to get better.

BRIGGS wrote:
Guys like Noah(always always hurt) and Batum(extreme expensive who also is injury prone)

yet Tyler Johnson is ALWAYSSSSSSSSSSSS hurt. talented dude but id stay away from him