Knicks1969 wrote:The dude I believe truly fits the system is Shawn Livingston from the Warriors, but I don't believe they will never let this dude go. There ain't another tall versatile PG out there

Yeah he's the right kind of guard, but he's not likely going to be available. I really don't see an issue with taking a look at a Jimmer or Wroten. We do have a spot for that purpose it would seem. With Phil taking his time about filling that spot it seems like he's making calls and seeing what is out there in the way of deals. Otherwise I don't see why he'd leave the open roster spot unfilled in addition to Early being out. Seems like he's trying to work on something.

nixluva wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:The dude I believe truly fits the system is Shawn Livingston from the Warriors, but I don't believe they will never let this dude go. There ain't another tall versatile PG out there

Yeah he's the right kind of guard, but he's not likely going to be available. I really don't see an issue with taking a look at a Jimmer or Wroten. We do have a spot for that purpose it would seem. With Phil taking his time about filling that spot it seems like he's making calls and seeing what is out there in the way of deals. Otherwise I don't see why he'd leave the open roster spot unfilled in addition to Early being out. Seems like he's trying to work on something.

earthmansurfer wrote:

nixluva wrote:IMO Jose is more of a Pure PG mentally and you know this because they have to BEG him to look for his shot and be aggressive! In this offense we don't need a pure PG that needs to pound the ball for long periods of time in order to be effective. This is why Shved was so successful. He's not a pure PG but rather a Scoring guard. Shved was VERY effective in attacking the defense and still passing effectively to his teammates! He plays more like a Tony Parker which is the kind of guard this system needs.

Well said regarding Shved. I really liked him in this system. He would have been a HUGE HUGE help this year. The way he breaks down defenses was fun to watch, he just had a nack at that. But he was able to shoot ok too, so that really made him nice. He finished well but his defense wasn't the best but he used his length quite well. Honestly, we would be solidly over .500 if he was here. I think he would have really helped make this team more a TEAM. And all over Seraphin, lol.

Speaking of which, here is the latest highlight vid of him (I think he had back issues earlier on in the season). I think he's averaging 16pts and 4 assists.

tj23 wrote:Afflalo and Melo have been just as terrible fighting through screens as Jose. I just want a point guard that can actually create a bit on offense. Our starting unit is horrendously slow on both ends.

The game does start with the PG spot my friend. If your PG is slow, you are prone to have a slow team in all facets of the game

smackeddog wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:

nixluva wrote:IMO Jose is more of a Pure PG mentally and you know this because they have to BEG him to look for his shot and be aggressive! In this offense we don't need a pure PG that needs to pound the ball for long periods of time in order to be effective. This is why Shved was so successful. He's not a pure PG but rather a Scoring guard. Shved was VERY effective in attacking the defense and still passing effectively to his teammates! He plays more like a Tony Parker which is the kind of guard this system needs.

Well said regarding Shved. I really liked him in this system. He would have been a HUGE HUGE help this year. The way he breaks down defenses was fun to watch, he just had a nack at that. But he was able to shoot ok too, so that really made him nice. He finished well but his defense wasn't the best but he used his length quite well. Honestly, we would be solidly over .500 if he was here. I think he would have really helped make this team more a TEAM. And all over Seraphin, lol.

Speaking of which, here is the latest highlight vid of him (I think he had back issues earlier on in the season). I think he's averaging 16pts and 4 assists.

smackeddog wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:

nixluva wrote:IMO Jose is more of a Pure PG mentally and you know this because they have to BEG him to look for his shot and be aggressive! In this offense we don't need a pure PG that needs to pound the ball for long periods of time in order to be effective. This is why Shved was so successful. He's not a pure PG but rather a Scoring guard. Shved was VERY effective in attacking the defense and still passing effectively to his teammates! He plays more like a Tony Parker which is the kind of guard this system needs.

Well said regarding Shved. I really liked him in this system. He would have been a HUGE HUGE help this year. The way he breaks down defenses was fun to watch, he just had a nack at that. But he was able to shoot ok too, so that really made him nice. He finished well but his defense wasn't the best but he used his length quite well. Honestly, we would be solidly over .500 if he was here. I think he would have really helped make this team more a TEAM. And all over Seraphin, lol.

Speaking of which, here is the latest highlight vid of him (I think he had back issues earlier on in the season). I think he's averaging 16pts and 4 assists.

Thanks for this. I was gonna ask on here if anyone could find out how he's been doing. I miss him and would love to see what he could do on a good team cause we didn't have that when he was playing with us before. After watching the video i want him back even more now.

newyorker4ever wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:The dude I believe truly fits the system is Shawn Livingston from the Warriors, but I don't believe they will never let this dude go. There ain't another tall versatile PG out there

Well holy crapola.....we obviously don't agree on much but i think Livingston would be a nice fit. He's got good length and good athleticism. Good call.

We are not supposed to agree or disagree on everything, but we can always be respectful of each others views; which u don't do very well:::))

Yeah well if your views were more realistic and not just ALWAYS negative against everything the knicks try to do then i wouldn't have to comment on your fictional posts. I just don't like it when fans on a message board actually think that they can do a better job of coaching the Knicks and fixing the Knicks better than guys that have spent their lives in the NBA in some way or another and that's what you and a few others do and it's not only fictional but it's also ridiculous. Just be a Knicks fan and realize that that's all you are is a fan and not a coach or a GM or a player.

How are my views always negative? I often point out solutions to everything I criticize around here. I was not in agreement with Fisher due to the misuse of the talents on the roster. Have you seen any negativity out of me since Fisher decided to finally stop messing with the rotation? I will answer for you; Hell no. I had issues with Calderon, because he was horrible early on, he is still a poor defender, but now that he is taking and making shots, I advocate for him to remain on the floor. I am a fair person my man. I will criticize and praise when necessary::)))

newyorker4ever wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:The dude I believe truly fits the system is Shawn Livingston from the Warriors, but I don't believe they will never let this dude go. There ain't another tall versatile PG out there

Well holy crapola.....we obviously don't agree on much but i think Livingston would be a nice fit. He's got good length and good athleticism. Good call.

We are not supposed to agree or disagree on everything, but we can always be respectful of each others views; which u don't do very well:::))

Yeah well if your views were more realistic and not just ALWAYS negative against everything the knicks try to do then i wouldn't have to comment on your fictional posts. I just don't like it when fans on a message board actually think that they can do a better job of coaching the Knicks and fixing the Knicks better than guys that have spent their lives in the NBA in some way or another and that's what you and a few others do and it's not only fictional but it's also ridiculous. Just be a Knicks fan and realize that that's all you are is a fan and not a coach or a GM or a player.

How are my views always negative? I often point out solutions to everything I criticize around here. I was not in agreement with Fisher due to the misuse of the talents on the roster. Have you seen any negativity out of me since Fisher decided to finally stop messing with the rotation? I will answer for you; Hell no. I had issues with Calderon, because he was horrible early on, he is still a poor defender, but now that he is taking and making shots, I advocate for him to remain on the floor. I am a fair person my man. I will criticize and praise when necessary::)))

So you say i haven't seen any negativity from you since Fisher stuck with his 9 man rotation and of course i have cause you still talk negatively about Calderon on the gameday threads and you just got on Fisher for only having a 8 man rotation against the Nets so there's that. I made that post that you're commenting on like a week ago so lets just let that go cause you've absolutely been better since we've been winning and playing better.

Winning cures all ilnesses:). But if you are honest with yourself, you will see that I gravely curtailed my criticism since the reduction in the rotation. I will ride or die with a 9 to 10 me. Rotation. Just play Williams heavy minutes and I will be happy.