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crzymdups
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12/24/2015  3:12 PM
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meloanyk wrote:I like Holiday, he has skills, size and youth.

What's the line on his personality and IQ (?)

He's 6'4" and 25 years old and has a current PER of 19.5.

He's no longer starting in New Orleans . . . recovering from injury . . . and the team is surprisingly bad this year. So maybe there's not a lot of commitment to him there.

He's making $11 million for each of next 2 years. That would be acceptable for what he brings, I would think.

But what can Knicks offer to get him (?)

Only hope might be that the injury makes him a risk and that New Orleans would like to get out from underneath that.

But again: what can Knick offer (?)

I think you would have to send them Gallo or Grant in some kind of package with Jose. Not sure if that would be smart or not. Last year Shved was just a part of a move to help Pablo get to a contender and the Knicks get picks but he turned out to be a really good fit.

I love the idea of Jrue Holiday here. I like his game a lot. He's had a hard time staying healthy though.

But you get the sense that Pelicans team has to majorly restructure at some point soon.

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12/25/2015  10:14 PM
Jrue Holliday????? I don't know about him. Can he pass the ball to the open men or is he a scoring guard ??
Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
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12/27/2015  1:45 AM
Y'all still don't want Rondo???? He is the only dude who can transform this team into a contender by next season.
Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
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1/2/2016  7:06 PM
The more I study Rondo's game is the more I see how important he can be in the triangle. He is not an over dribbler; he is methodical and cerebral as a passer. He can pick his spot at the top of the triangle to distribute the ball in areas that Calderon is overly inefficient. Calderon often holds the ball mainly because he is afraid to turn it over, whereas rondo is unafraid of placing a pinpoint pass to an open shooter for a positive conversion. Defensively we know he is a pest; and he has always been one of the best rebounders in the league at his position. In Rondo I trust
Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
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1/4/2016  1:11 PM
http://hoopshype.com/2016/01/03/is-rajon-rondo-really-helping-the-kings/
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1/4/2016  1:14 PM
rondo loves karl and boogie...why would he come to the knicks?
Knicks should be improved: win about 40 games and maybe sneak into the playoffs. Melo, Rose and even Noah will have some nice moments however this team should be about PORZINGUS. the sooner they make him the primary player, the better
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1/4/2016  1:16 PM
Rondo might leave the Kings because the Kings might trade Boogie and blow it all up.

But I don't see Rondo fitting here - besides he's gonna want close to the max next season. He wants more money.


I think Mike Conley would be a much better fit here. And I think he might consider leaving the Grizz - they're only 2 games better than us in W-L. With ZBO 34 yrs old, the Grizz have some major thinking to do.

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1/4/2016  1:24 PM
crzymdups wrote:Rondo might leave the Kings because the Kings might trade Boogie and blow it all up.

But I don't see Rondo fitting here - besides he's gonna want close to the max next season. He wants more money.


I think Mike Conley would be a much better fit here. And I think he might consider leaving the Grizz - they're only 2 games better than us in W-L. With ZBO 34 yrs old, the Grizz have some major thinking to do.

whats rondo gets his money, back to sh1t head.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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1/4/2016  1:46 PM
crzymdups wrote:Rondo might leave the Kings because the Kings might trade Boogie and blow it all up.

But I don't see Rondo fitting here - besides he's gonna want close to the max next season. He wants more money.


I think Mike Conley would be a much better fit here. And I think he might consider leaving the Grizz - they're only 2 games better than us in W-L. With ZBO 34 yrs old, the Grizz have some major thinking to do.

but the owner LOVES boogie lol. rondo was rudy gay's best man at his wedding. i doubt rondo leaves

conley could leave though? would you be willing to spend $20mil?

Knicks should be improved: win about 40 games and maybe sneak into the playoffs. Melo, Rose and even Noah will have some nice moments however this team should be about PORZINGUS. the sooner they make him the primary player, the better
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1/4/2016  1:48 PM
callmened wrote:
crzymdups wrote:Rondo might leave the Kings because the Kings might trade Boogie and blow it all up.

But I don't see Rondo fitting here - besides he's gonna want close to the max next season. He wants more money.


I think Mike Conley would be a much better fit here. And I think he might consider leaving the Grizz - they're only 2 games better than us in W-L. With ZBO 34 yrs old, the Grizz have some major thinking to do.

but the owner LOVES boogie lol. rondo was rudy gay's best man at his wedding. i doubt rondo leaves

conley could leave though? would you be willing to spend $20mil?

That's the big question. I don't know. It seems high to me, but will Phil look at Conley as a sort of final piece with Year 2 KP, Melo, Rolo, Afflalo.

Cap will be going to $103M or so... but $20M is still a lot.

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1/4/2016  1:51 PM
Knicks1969 wrote:Jrue Holliday????? I don't know about him. Can he pass the ball to the open men or is he a scoring guard ??

I like Jrue...level headed Andre Miller type...doesn't do anything fantastic, but does ALL things good...including defense.

Nixluva is posting triangle screen grabs, even when nobody asks - Fishmike. LOL So are we going to reference that thread like the bible now? "The thread of Wroten Page 14 post 9" - EnySpree
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1/4/2016  1:58 PM
Cartman718 wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:Jrue Holliday????? I don't know about him. Can he pass the ball to the open men or is he a scoring guard ??

I like Jrue...level headed Andre Miller type...doesn't do anything fantastic, but does ALL things good...including defense.

Health is his issue.

Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
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1/4/2016  1:59 PM
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Knicks1969 wrote:Jrue Holliday????? I don't know about him. Can he pass the ball to the open men or is he a scoring guard ??

I like Jrue...level headed Andre Miller type...doesn't do anything fantastic, but does ALL things good...including defense.

the problem with Jrue is that he know longer has good wheels (as the pelicans are finding out). philly traded damaged goods and the pels were victims. sure hes ok but hes now injury prone and a shell of himself

if im the knicks, id focus on trying to pry conley away from memphis. unfortunately, money will talk the most and hell ask for at least 20 mill

Knicks should be improved: win about 40 games and maybe sneak into the playoffs. Melo, Rose and even Noah will have some nice moments however this team should be about PORZINGUS. the sooner they make him the primary player, the better
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1/4/2016  2:04 PM
Nalod wrote:http://hoopshype.com/2016/01/03/is-rajon-rondo-really-helping-the-kings/

Rondo is who i want. If he can keep his head straight i'd love to have him and what he brings on the court and Melo wants him to. Who knows if Melo still wants him and if phil talks to melo at all about who he'd like to play with then Phil may have had melo already get in contact with rondo to see if he's interested. I guess we'll know that if Phil trades for a legit point guard at the trade deadline this year then Phil most likely isn't interested in Rondo.

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1/4/2016  2:05 PM
callmened wrote:
Cartman718 wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:Jrue Holliday????? I don't know about him. Can he pass the ball to the open men or is he a scoring guard ??

I like Jrue...level headed Andre Miller type...doesn't do anything fantastic, but does ALL things good...including defense.

the problem with Jrue is that he know longer has good wheels (as the pelicans are finding out). philly traded damaged goods and the pels were victims. sure hes ok but hes now injury prone and a shell of himself

if im the knicks, id focus on trying to pry conley away from memphis. unfortunately, money will talk the most and hell ask for at least 20 mill

Bingo...As much as some here don't like Rondo, he will be THE best available FA out there next season. I hope we put aside the TRIANGLE and offer this dude a contract.

Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
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1/4/2016  2:26 PM
Knicks1969 wrote:
callmened wrote:
Cartman718 wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:Jrue Holliday????? I don't know about him. Can he pass the ball to the open men or is he a scoring guard ??

I like Jrue...level headed Andre Miller type...doesn't do anything fantastic, but does ALL things good...including defense.

the problem with Jrue is that he know longer has good wheels (as the pelicans are finding out). philly traded damaged goods and the pels were victims. sure hes ok but hes now injury prone and a shell of himself

if im the knicks, id focus on trying to pry conley away from memphis. unfortunately, money will talk the most and hell ask for at least 20 mill

Bingo...As much as some here don't like Rondo, he will be THE best available FA out there next season. I hope we put aside the TRIANGLE and offer this dude a contract.

Doesnt even matter what system we play, RONDO is so crafty at finding seams to pass the ball, which is absolutely essential in the triangle

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1/4/2016  2:30 PM
callmened wrote:rondo loves karl and boogie...why would he come to the knicks?

great shrinks in the city

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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1/4/2016  2:34 PM
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Knicks1969 wrote:
callmened wrote:
Cartman718 wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:Jrue Holliday????? I don't know about him. Can he pass the ball to the open men or is he a scoring guard ??

I like Jrue...level headed Andre Miller type...doesn't do anything fantastic, but does ALL things good...including defense.

the problem with Jrue is that he know longer has good wheels (as the pelicans are finding out). philly traded damaged goods and the pels were victims. sure hes ok but hes now injury prone and a shell of himself

if im the knicks, id focus on trying to pry conley away from memphis. unfortunately, money will talk the most and hell ask for at least 20 mill

Bingo...As much as some here don't like Rondo, he will be THE best available FA out there next season. I hope we put aside the TRIANGLE and offer this dude a contract.

Doesnt even matter what system we play, RONDO is so crafty at finding seams to pass the ball, which is absolutely essential in the triangle

Precisely.....what folks here can't seem to understand about Rondo is that he is not a ballhawger. The dude does not dominate possessions like CP or other pure PGs. He is a PG that can fit in any system as long as you are restricting his ability to improvise

Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
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1/4/2016  3:07 PM
mreinman wrote:
callmened wrote:rondo loves karl and boogie...why would he come to the knicks?

great shrinks in the city

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Knicks should be improved: win about 40 games and maybe sneak into the playoffs. Melo, Rose and even Noah will have some nice moments however this team should be about PORZINGUS. the sooner they make him the primary player, the better
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1/4/2016  3:21 PM
mreinman wrote:
callmened wrote:rondo loves karl and boogie...why would he come to the knicks?

great shrinks in the city

Nixluva is posting triangle screen grabs, even when nobody asks - Fishmike. LOL So are we going to reference that thread like the bible now? "The thread of Wroten Page 14 post 9" - EnySpree
Rondo or Conley????

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