WaltLongmire wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:

nixluva wrote:Fish could also change his sub pattern so that he subs out RoLo earlier than usual. It protects RoLo's pride while still addressing the changes that need to be made. They can treat RoLo like he is on the Dirk sub plan. Dirk comes out early in 1st quarters.

Tonight, fish did a better job with the rotation. He had RoLo on the floor late for rebound because KP had a tough night, but he didn't dare to have Calderon on the floor. Had he have Calderon on the floor, Lilliard would have eaten him alive. KO and Williams played more then 10 minutes each, so we ripped the benefit

For that, I will layoff conversing about this team until the proper changes are made.

?????????????????????????????

So if you are still "conversing" that would indicate that either:

1) Proper changes were made;

2) You were lying about your layoff;

3) You are simply not a man of your word.

So which one is it?

We saw less of calderon, didn't we? More of RoLo and Williams,didn't we?

So this will be a situational thing...and you will not converse if you don't feel the right things are being done in a particular game?

The problem is that I think you posted BEFORE this game, but AFTER this thread, so the correct changes could not have been made!

I think you've shattered my deep faith in mankind and especially UK posters.

Dude, I have no idea what ur talking about. Fisher in my opinion is still a horrible coach. He just happened to finally listen to the calls to play Williams and KO; two of the dude who found themselves in the dog house. My views still remain unchanged. Play a ten men rotation; which he has finally adopted, and play the selected players or no less then 15 minutes per. Let's see how patient he can be with that rotation. I bet you he will revert to his old ways in the next game:))). You will see a lot more RoLo and Calderon, less Williams and KO, more Seraphin and Sasha

You do understand that I'm playing with your head and using your own comments to do so.

I'm not the one who said I would not be posting until certain changes were made...and then posted anyway.

If I can annoy you as much as you annoyed me the other game with your continued meaningless posts about Fisher, then I'm satisfied...and now finished for now.

Take a step back and embrace the absurdness.

You are missing a page if you actually think that you can play with my head:::)))

Knicks1969 wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:

nixluva wrote:Fish could also change his sub pattern so that he subs out RoLo earlier than usual. It protects RoLo's pride while still addressing the changes that need to be made. They can treat RoLo like he is on the Dirk sub plan. Dirk comes out early in 1st quarters.

Tonight, fish did a better job with the rotation. He had RoLo on the floor late for rebound because KP had a tough night, but he didn't dare to have Calderon on the floor. Had he have Calderon on the floor, Lilliard would have eaten him alive. KO and Williams played more then 10 minutes each, so we ripped the benefit

For that, I will layoff conversing about this team until the proper changes are made.

?????????????????????????????

So if you are still "conversing" that would indicate that either:

1) Proper changes were made;

2) You were lying about your layoff;

3) You are simply not a man of your word.

So which one is it?

We saw less of calderon, didn't we? More of RoLo and Williams,didn't we?

So this will be a situational thing...and you will not converse if you don't feel the right things are being done in a particular game?

The problem is that I think you posted BEFORE this game, but AFTER this thread, so the correct changes could not have been made!

I think you've shattered my deep faith in mankind and especially UK posters.

Dude, I have no idea what ur talking about. Fisher in my opinion is still a horrible coach. He just happened to finally listen to the calls to play Williams and KO; two of the dude who found themselves in the dog house. My views still remain unchanged. Play a ten men rotation; which he has finally adopted, and play the selected players or no less then 15 minutes per. Let's see how patient he can be with that rotation. I bet you he will revert to his old ways in the next game:))). You will see a lot more RoLo and Calderon, less Williams and KO, more Seraphin and Sasha

You do understand that I'm playing with your head and using your own comments to do so.

I'm not the one who said I would not be posting until certain changes were made...and then posted anyway.

If I can annoy you as much as you annoyed me the other game with your continued meaningless posts about Fisher, then I'm satisfied...and now finished for now.

Take a step back and embrace the absurdness.

You are missing a page if you actually think that you can play with my head:::)))

If you were played, and it was successful, you would not realize it. Looks like you did.

He just happened to finally listen to the calls to play Williams and KO

Gotta ask, who did Fish listen to? Who made the "Calls"?

Knicks1969 wrote:

ekstarks94 wrote:What chane is going to speed up our line up. KP is not playing the starting 5 because you will wear him down that much faster. Start a Grant?....he is not ready....NEXT! Start Galloway over Calderon....possibly but then your bench becomes a plodding unit...also Caledron is a better point. There is not many answers here within the team....if a Grant had KPs confidence I start him and thank Santa for allowing me to get my gift early....he has the tools but is not ready.....needs confidence and experience

Gallo, AA, Williams,Carmelo and KP= speed

Gallo, AA, Carmelo, KP, and KO= also equal SPEED

Williams is to mistake prone to start on the 1st unit...he cannot freelance as much and would be required to think the game which would defeat the purpose of having him start.... I like it in theory but I have to see him play on the 2nd unit like he played in preseason on a regular basis...that has not happened since we steam rolled Milwaukee.

KO is intriguing but this Adrain would require KP to play some center. Also until KO jumper starts to become money like Oakleys I would not feel comfortable...he can back down his defender like Rolo..and as ugly as Rolo low post game is it is at least somewhat effective

Knicks1969 wrote:

ekstarks94 wrote:What chane is going to speed up our line up. KP is not playing the starting 5 because you will wear him down that much faster. Start a Grant?....he is not ready....NEXT! Start Galloway over Calderon....possibly but then your bench becomes a plodding unit...also Caledron is a better point. There is not many answers here within the team....if a Grant had KPs confidence I start him and thank Santa for allowing me to get my gift early....he has the tools but is not ready.....needs confidence and experience

Gallo, AA, Williams,Carmelo and KP= speed

Gallo, AA, Carmelo, KP, and KO= also equal SPEED

Transferring both Calderon and RoLo to the second unit would further solidify that unit. Play Grant strictly at the point, with Calderon as SG, Lance, and RoLo; would give that unit fire power and a defensive identity

The second unit I like Grant at SG less thinking more reacting....

I Dunno about Gallo at lead guard...but we could do worse...his defense will be an upgrade but his shooting needs to come back

Knicks1969 wrote:

ekstarks94 wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:

ekstarks94 wrote:What chane is going to speed up our line up. KP is not playing the starting 5 because you will wear him down that much faster. Start a Grant?....he is not ready....NEXT! Start Galloway over Calderon....possibly but then your bench becomes a plodding unit...also Caledron is a better point. There is not many answers here within the team....if a Grant had KPs confidence I start him and thank Santa for allowing me to get my gift early....he has the tools but is not ready.....needs confidence and experience

Gallo, AA, Williams,Carmelo and KP= speed

Gallo, AA, Carmelo, KP, and KO= also equal SPEED

Williams is to mistake prone to start on the 1st unit...he cannot freelance as much and would be required to think the game which would defeat the purpose of having him start.... I like it in theory but I have to see him play on the 2nd unit like he played in preseason on a regular basis...that has not happened since we steam rolled Milwaukee.

KO is intriguing but this Adrain would require KP to play some center. Also until KO jumper starts to become money like Oakleys I would not feel comfortable...he can back down his defender like Rolo..and as ugly as Rolo low post game is it is at least somewhat effective

williams doesnt really freelance. Specifically, if he knows he will be the forth option. He would be with that unit to provide speed, agility, and much needed athleticism which we are sorely missing. That unit is in desperate need for a strong finisher or a guy other then Carmelo that can put the ball on the floor and absorb contact and take it to the rack. He is by far the one dude who is constantly on the charity line, because of his activity.

KO provides a key element that the triangle needs to fully function. He is a hell of a passer from the lowpost and puts a lot of pressure on the opposing bigs. Defensively, that dude is a beast; he puts fear on the opposing players. Further, he is the most vocal player on our roster. He is constantly shouting instructions to the other dudes,and he backs it up as well. A part from the inconsistent jumper, this dude is an asset. We have enough shot makers in the starting 5 with KP, Carmelo, and Aflalo, but not enough play makers, especially from the high post area

Good points I agree with everything....only thing is with Williams is does he attack like he did before...he is not doing it in the second unit where he is required to do that.. What makes you think he will turn the afterburners on with the first unit

Knicks1969 wrote:

ekstarks94 wrote:You are starting to win me over on this...He is Carmelo's JR Smith. He would have to play like he did in preseason because he is not a defender and his offense would have to tip the scales to make it worth while.

We will never know until it is tried. The one thing that is for certain: from the little we've seen of KO and Williams, when they are on the floor the intensity picks up tremendously. They should be allowed to make mistakes.

Furthermore, Williams is more level headed then JR. Carmelo might enjoy playing with that talent

mreinman wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:

ekstarks94 wrote:You are starting to win me over on this...He is Carmelo's JR Smith. He would have to play like he did in preseason because he is not a defender and his offense would have to tip the scales to make it worth while.

We will never know until it is tried. The one thing that is for certain: from the little we've seen of KO and Williams, when they are on the floor the intensity picks up tremendously. They should be allowed to make mistakes.

Furthermore, Williams is more level headed then JR. Carmelo might enjoy playing with that talent

Do you think that Williams is a smarter player than JR smith?

mreinman wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

mreinman wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:

ekstarks94 wrote:You are starting to win me over on this...He is Carmelo's JR Smith. He would have to play like he did in preseason because he is not a defender and his offense would have to tip the scales to make it worth while.

We will never know until it is tried. The one thing that is for certain: from the little we've seen of KO and Williams, when they are on the floor the intensity picks up tremendously. They should be allowed to make mistakes.

Furthermore, Williams is more level headed then JR. Carmelo might enjoy playing with that talent

Do you think that Williams is a smarter player than JR smith?

He definitely is able to regulate his emotions better.

yes. but he can't really play smart enough to get PT. JR was a very very good player for many years. He is just a bit crazy and it got out of hand here.

So far the only thing that we know about williams is that he has failed so far. He has also showed some good signs and some bad signs here. We have no clue as to how much PT he deserves.

If JR ran naked accross the court during the finals he could not get any streakier... Couple with his loose cannon attitude he was completely undependable.... Williams has been undependable with the weight of #2 pick on him....different story