clyderules wrote:So Anthony's plan was to draw a foul and to have the refs who he's been complaining about call it to win the game on the road? Is that the best that his apologists can come up with?

That was clearly his plan. I don't think it was a good plan at all, but he pretty clear thought he'd get a foul call.

fishmike wrote:

SwishAndDish13 wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:I said KP was open. Yes he should have thrown it to him but if you look at the video you posted KP broke open when Melo was pulling up. He still should have tried to zip a pass by Cousins. That pass would be a gamble because of Demarcus Wingspan but I think that would have been the best move.

Then again looking at my Video how do you throw that pass to Zingis while adjusting around Rondo and Gay fouling you? You would have to go up **** the ball back to generate the power needed to get it to KP.

I am not going to fault a guy on that play though. I will fault him for missing bunnies and Fts though. However late in that game he was still passing his tail off before that to Calderon(brick), KP(brick), Afflalo(brick, Brick), and came up short late with his Clank special.

+1 - A pass attempt out of that woulda been a likely turnover. Also, nobody was that open until after the ball was released. Affair has some space but that was really it. Again time wouleft have been an issue since he gathered to shoot with 2 sec left.

some have this thing called hate blinding them from seeing the obvious like this. Melo passed very well and often creating open looks for teammates who didnt hit. Than at the end he tried to do it himself, took a bad shot and clanged it. Not sure what is so hard to see. Knicks are struggling. Last night was actually a good sign. Lets see if they can win this last and start to dig out of the hole.

last night had positive signs but your defense of hate is much more biased than the actual hammering that he gets

dk7th wrote:

fishmike wrote:

SwishAndDish13 wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:I said KP was open. Yes he should have thrown it to him but if you look at the video you posted KP broke open when Melo was pulling up. He still should have tried to zip a pass by Cousins. That pass would be a gamble because of Demarcus Wingspan but I think that would have been the best move.

Then again looking at my Video how do you throw that pass to Zingis while adjusting around Rondo and Gay fouling you? You would have to go up **** the ball back to generate the power needed to get it to KP.

I am not going to fault a guy on that play though. I will fault him for missing bunnies and Fts though. However late in that game he was still passing his tail off before that to Calderon(brick), KP(brick), Afflalo(brick, Brick), and came up short late with his Clank special.

+1 - A pass attempt out of that woulda been a likely turnover. Also, nobody was that open until after the ball was released. Affair has some space but that was really it. Again time wouleft have been an issue since he gathered to shoot with 2 sec left.

some have this thing called hate blinding them from seeing the obvious like this. Melo passed very well and often creating open looks for teammates who didnt hit. Than at the end he tried to do it himself, took a bad shot and clanged it. Not sure what is so hard to see. Knicks are struggling. Last night was actually a good sign. Lets see if they can win this last and start to dig out of the hole.

if that is your attempt at reading melo's mind as to why he did not pass all your doing is approving a stupid line of so-called reasoning. a smart player would see an open man and make the best play possible regardless of history.

kp6 was WIDE OPEN UNDER THE BASKET.

Melo never looked up at all - he never saw KP. Once Rondo grabbed him you could tell he committed to shooting and thought he'd get the call. For someone who just recently complained he never gets calls... it's pretty astounding that he assumed he'd get the call on the last shot of the game.

mreinman wrote:

fishmike wrote:

SwishAndDish13 wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:I said KP was open. Yes he should have thrown it to him but if you look at the video you posted KP broke open when Melo was pulling up. He still should have tried to zip a pass by Cousins. That pass would be a gamble because of Demarcus Wingspan but I think that would have been the best move.

Then again looking at my Video how do you throw that pass to Zingis while adjusting around Rondo and Gay fouling you? You would have to go up **** the ball back to generate the power needed to get it to KP.

I am not going to fault a guy on that play though. I will fault him for missing bunnies and Fts though. However late in that game he was still passing his tail off before that to Calderon(brick), KP(brick), Afflalo(brick, Brick), and came up short late with his Clank special.

+1 - A pass attempt out of that woulda been a likely turnover. Also, nobody was that open until after the ball was released. Affair has some space but that was really it. Again time wouleft have been an issue since he gathered to shoot with 2 sec left.

some have this thing called hate blinding them from seeing the obvious like this. Melo passed very well and often creating open looks for teammates who didnt hit. Than at the end he tried to do it himself, took a bad shot and clanged it. Not sure what is so hard to see. Knicks are struggling. Last night was actually a good sign. Lets see if they can win this last and start to dig out of the hole.

last night had positive signs but your defense of hate is much more biased than the actual hammering that he gets

You ride Briggs for a daily draft thread but you start the same thread about Melo just as often. Knicks have some work to do, and this season would be an easier transition if Melo shot better but clueless? Watch what unfolded. Team couldnt score. Nix is right... the PG hole is really hurting us right now so lets see what they come up with. Clueless? Disgusting maybe... You watch those last 8 minutes and come away with "Melo lost us the game" then clueless seems about right. You hate Melo... I get it. Thanks for sharing. No matter how many threads you start its not going to facilitate him being traded. Its just annoying.

crzymdups wrote:NBA ref report - says refs officially should've called a foul on Rondo on last shot.

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/HerringWSJ/status/675424903521280000

of course they "should have."

but... rule #1 of end-of-game scenarios: NEVER make the refs have to make a call. it was a STUPID DECISION.

dk7th wrote:

crzymdups wrote:NBA ref report - says refs officially should've called a foul on Rondo on last shot.

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/HerringWSJ/status/675424903521280000

of course they "should have."

but... rule #1 of end-of-game scenarios: NEVER make the refs have to make a call. it was a STUPID DECISION.

Would you have said that if he got the call and hit three free throws to win the game?

dk7th wrote:

crzymdups wrote:NBA ref report - says refs officially should've called a foul on Rondo on last shot.

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/HerringWSJ/status/675424903521280000

of course they "should have."

but... rule #1 of end-of-game scenarios: NEVER make the refs have to make a call. it was a STUPID DECISION.

This is the NBA.....not city league or little league. NBA has different rules. In the NBA, you play for the foul.....Melo is 1 of many...if not all NBA players that do this! Stick your arm out there, and the shot is going up.....regardless if someone is open or not. Thats what shooters do. They learn how to use the rules in their favor.

crzymdups wrote:

dk7th wrote:

crzymdups wrote:NBA ref report - says refs officially should've called a foul on Rondo on last shot.

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/HerringWSJ/status/675424903521280000

of course they "should have."

but... rule #1 of end-of-game scenarios: NEVER make the refs have to make a call. it was a STUPID DECISION.

Would you have said that if he got the call and hit three free throws to win the game?

if this sort of conjecture makes you feel better then great. sure... IF he had gotten the call and made ALL three free throws i would have said "we were lucky and dodged a bullet."

doesn't change the fact that it was a dumb play, a stupid decision. basketball is about hitting the open man. you rise and focus on the front of the rim or the back of the rim, you see a 7'3" target standing there and you fire a pass!!!

look at the timing: there's three seconds on the clock when he goes into his shooting motion and 2 seconds when he's at the top of his jump. a world of time to pass or lob.

blkexec wrote:

dk7th wrote:

crzymdups wrote:NBA ref report - says refs officially should've called a foul on Rondo on last shot.

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/HerringWSJ/status/675424903521280000

of course they "should have."

but... rule #1 of end-of-game scenarios: NEVER make the refs have to make a call. it was a STUPID DECISION.

This is the NBA.....not city league or little league. NBA has different rules. In the NBA, you play for the foul.....Melo is 1 of many...if not all NBA players that do this! Stick your arm out there, and the shot is going up.....regardless if someone is open or not. Thats what shooters do. They learn how to use the rules in their favor.

his arm was grabbed BEFORE he went into his shooting motion and his shot attempt was pretty much free and clear, AND his vision was not impaired. his entire focus is on the basket because he never intended to pass the ball no matter what. do you not see anything wrong with this approach???

dk7th wrote:

blkexec wrote:

dk7th wrote:

crzymdups wrote:NBA ref report - says refs officially should've called a foul on Rondo on last shot.

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/HerringWSJ/status/675424903521280000

of course they "should have."

but... rule #1 of end-of-game scenarios: NEVER make the refs have to make a call. it was a STUPID DECISION.

This is the NBA.....not city league or little league. NBA has different rules. In the NBA, you play for the foul.....Melo is 1 of many...if not all NBA players that do this! Stick your arm out there, and the shot is going up.....regardless if someone is open or not. Thats what shooters do. They learn how to use the rules in their favor.

his arm was grabbed BEFORE he went into his shooting motion and his shot attempt was pretty much free and clear, AND his vision was not impaired. his entire focus is on the basket because he never intended to pass the ball no matter what. do you not see anything wrong with this approach???

it's the NBA, thats a shooting foul. The NBA acknowledged he should have gone to the line for 3 free throws. There is no arguing that.