mreinman wrote:

bigbasketballs wrote:

mreinman wrote:

fishmike wrote:

mreinman wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

mreinman wrote:

Knixkik wrote:These threads start every time we lose and Melo doesn't shoot well. Nothing to see here.

while that may be happening way too often the last few years, this thread has nothing to do with just one game. Its just a prediction since I don't think that he is happy (enough) here, wants to win now, and may want out.

No need to get defensive for melo so easily.

You wouldn't have started this thread if we won the last 2 games for example, that is my point.

probably not because then Melo would not have sounded so defected and make those comments about NY.

they were in reference to Deron and his inability to hack it here.

If you think Melo is waiving his no trade you have payed attention to nothing that player says and does. A grumpy post game interview does not translate to life changing decisions. Please. This is nothing more than Chuckbuck's normal day dreams around 420pm

this is not just about his post game comments. what are the chances that you think that he waves the NTC to go to a contender?

Not sure that they could ever pull off a deal but I believe that melo is definitely open to waving if its the right situation.

Some of us won't see this decline or ill fit until we are trading Ewing for Glenn Rice again.

Buy low, sell high.

Don't make claims you can't keep consistent for 2 pages.

First you claim it has nothing to do with one game and it's all about Melo's peace of mind. Then you switch gears and interject it about his decline and selling high, an obvious expression of YOU wanting to get rid of him.

Melo could be traded tomorrow for all I care. But you can't even keep your story straight for a few paragraphs.

If you don't like my posts or my consistency, just ignore and move on.

Nope, I'm going to hold out hope you can still be reached and improv your game. Some talent in there, you just haven't tapped into it yet. We need Olympic mreinman,

mreinman wrote:

bigbasketballs wrote:

mreinman wrote:

bigbasketballs wrote:

mreinman wrote:

fishmike wrote:

mreinman wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

mreinman wrote:

Knixkik wrote:These threads start every time we lose and Melo doesn't shoot well. Nothing to see here.

while that may be happening way too often the last few years, this thread has nothing to do with just one game. Its just a prediction since I don't think that he is happy (enough) here, wants to win now, and may want out.

No need to get defensive for melo so easily.

You wouldn't have started this thread if we won the last 2 games for example, that is my point.

probably not because then Melo would not have sounded so defected and make those comments about NY.

they were in reference to Deron and his inability to hack it here.

If you think Melo is waiving his no trade you have payed attention to nothing that player says and does. A grumpy post game interview does not translate to life changing decisions. Please. This is nothing more than Chuckbuck's normal day dreams around 420pm

this is not just about his post game comments. what are the chances that you think that he waves the NTC to go to a contender?

Not sure that they could ever pull off a deal but I believe that melo is definitely open to waving if its the right situation.

Some of us won't see this decline or ill fit until we are trading Ewing for Glenn Rice again.

Buy low, sell high.

Don't make claims you can't keep consistent for 2 pages.

First you claim it has nothing to do with one game and it's all about Melo's peace of mind. Then you switch gears and interject it about his decline and selling high, an obvious expression of YOU wanting to get rid of him.

Melo could be traded tomorrow for all I care. But you can't even keep your story straight for a few paragraphs.

If you don't like my posts or my consistency, just ignore and move on.

Nope, I'm going to hold out hope you can still be reached and improv your game. Some talent in there, you just haven't tapped into it yet. We need Olympic mreinman,

that was funny actually. Even you weren't such a dik most of the time that was just out to show up other posters who you seemed to have an agenda with, I would find you more tolerable. Especially if you started a post just once a month that actually had some original content.

Passive aggression. In the beginning its hard to spot initially and you have only been here for a month and change but it will show. Probably why you had to come back under another handle as you mentioned.

Have a good night.

With all courtesy, I'm just here to talk basketball, I'm not seeking your approval.

You've yet to dispute my criticism of your posts here. You spoke of starting yet another trade melo thread after a loss because of a change of heart you observed, sticking to your premise when challenged.

A few posts later you changed course. I didn't solicit that or trap you into it, you did it all by yourself. I only identified it.

You speak of the community good, but you also should observe you and chuck buck get consistently called out on this particularly fixation. I've been here a few weeks and can see it's entirely deserved.

And that's your right. But it's my right to respond how I like when you do.

Again, you might have a case were I out of left field on this, but others have I.D.ed it too and you know it.

If you have the open mind you claim, perhaps try to understand how perception is reality and your role in that.

mreinman wrote:

bigbasketballs wrote:

mreinman wrote:

bigbasketballs wrote:

mreinman wrote:

bigbasketballs wrote:

mreinman wrote:

fishmike wrote:

mreinman wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

mreinman wrote:

Knixkik wrote:These threads start every time we lose and Melo doesn't shoot well. Nothing to see here.

while that may be happening way too often the last few years, this thread has nothing to do with just one game. Its just a prediction since I don't think that he is happy (enough) here, wants to win now, and may want out.

No need to get defensive for melo so easily.

You wouldn't have started this thread if we won the last 2 games for example, that is my point.

probably not because then Melo would not have sounded so defected and make those comments about NY.

they were in reference to Deron and his inability to hack it here.

If you think Melo is waiving his no trade you have payed attention to nothing that player says and does. A grumpy post game interview does not translate to life changing decisions. Please. This is nothing more than Chuckbuck's normal day dreams around 420pm

this is not just about his post game comments. what are the chances that you think that he waves the NTC to go to a contender?

Not sure that they could ever pull off a deal but I believe that melo is definitely open to waving if its the right situation.

Some of us won't see this decline or ill fit until we are trading Ewing for Glenn Rice again.

Buy low, sell high.

Don't make claims you can't keep consistent for 2 pages.

First you claim it has nothing to do with one game and it's all about Melo's peace of mind. Then you switch gears and interject it about his decline and selling high, an obvious expression of YOU wanting to get rid of him.

Melo could be traded tomorrow for all I care. But you can't even keep your story straight for a few paragraphs.

If you don't like my posts or my consistency, just ignore and move on.

Nope, I'm going to hold out hope you can still be reached and improv your game. Some talent in there, you just haven't tapped into it yet. We need Olympic mreinman,

that was funny actually. Even you weren't such a dik most of the time that was just out to show up other posters who you seemed to have an agenda with, I would find you more tolerable. Especially if you started a post just once a month that actually had some original content.

Passive aggression. In the beginning its hard to spot initially and you have only been here for a month and change but it will show. Probably why you had to come back under another handle as you mentioned.

Have a good night.

With all courtesy, I'm just here to talk basketball, I'm not seeking your approval.

You've yet to dispute my criticism of your posts here. You spoke of starting yet another trade melo thread after a loss because of a change of heart you observed, sticking to your premise when challenged.

A few posts later you changed course. I didn't solicit that or trap you into it, you did it all by yourself. I only identified it.

You speak of the community good, but you also should observe you and chuck buck get consistently called out on this particularly fixation. I've been here a few weeks and can see it's entirely deserved.

And that's your right. But it's my right to respond how I like when you do.

Again, you might have a case were I out of left field on this, but others have I.D.ed it too and you know it.

If you have the open mind you claim, perhaps try to understand how perception is reality and your role in that.

"other have id'd it", "you know it"

you got nothing and this thread is what it is a prediction based on something that I believe that he will want.

stop trying to be the board bully who tries to rally troops against other posters because you have a beef.

Someone question my posting this after a loss so you take that as a win in your smear campaign?

I get along with most posters here even if we don't agree but I can spot someone with an agenda from a mile away and you now saying it again about me and ChuckBuck (though we are pretty diff) here as you have a number of other times just proves that you are coming after posters.

Please cut it out or don't respond to my posts.

I will respond to whom I like. So you don't have a reputation among some other posters for turning topics into Melo topics? Is that your claim?

knicks1248 wrote:

mreinman wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

franco12 wrote:You know, if anyone is holding anyone back from a championship, its Melo that is costing KP with his poor play and lousy shooting.

so grant, galloway, and dwill are all shooting poorly because of melo, and KP gets open looks because of calderon, not melo..hmmm..hilarious

def not melo. He can possibly help teammates a bit more getting them the ball when he is doubled.

Yeah because the 8 assist coming from your forward is not enough, he needs to avg 10.

Your number one scoring option is avg 18 attempts a game, far less than any other number #1 scoring option in the league..what fckng more do you want...Is that all you got

Is Melo averaging 8 assists? Is he even averaging half of that?

I'd like to see a starting 5 of

Gallo Afflalo Thomas Melo Porzingis get some run.

Grant Lopez Williams off the bench.

Shorten the rotation to 8 guys.

CrushAlot wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

mreinman wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

franco12 wrote:You know, if anyone is holding anyone back from a championship, its Melo that is costing KP with his poor play and lousy shooting.

so grant, galloway, and dwill are all shooting poorly because of melo, and KP gets open looks because of calderon, not melo..hmmm..hilarious

def not melo. He can possibly help teammates a bit more getting them the ball when he is doubled.

Yeah because the 8 assist coming from your forward is not enough, he needs to avg 10.

Your number one scoring option is avg 18 attempts a game, far less than any other number #1 scoring option in the league..what fckng more do you want...Is that all you got

Is Melo averaging 8 assists? Is he even averaging half of that?

He had 8 last night. He was leading the team in assists earlier in the year but is now second on the team behind Jose.

He has also had zero on at least one game - he is averaging 3.1 I think. The poster was asking why his assists are being criticized and sited the one game where he had 8 assists. A little too much cherry picking.
For a guy who touches the ball almost every possession, and apparently always gets double teamed - he should average around 5 a game especially when KP is shooting lights out and Affalo is playing well. His shooting is inconsistent and he is doing nothing else particularly well.

If Melo leaves it will be very difficult to get a star player to come to New York. The refs don't even like us. Our only hope is to get this team to play better. and the more we build up KP the worst this team will get

mreinman wrote:If any of you listened to his post game last night he was talking about why Deron looks so much better and happy.

He said:

"because he is not playing in NY. He looks much more at peace now"

Melo is getting fed up here and is starting to convince himself (possibly) that he can be happier and perhaps win somewhere else.

Phil I am sure will listen intently to offers but the market and value may not be there. Phil should have traded him right when he took over when his value was through the roof. Spilled milk ...

Melo actually gave a very good honest post game interview and this is not a thread to knock him. This is about what may be best for all parties.

Why does every post need a "I'm not trying to knock him" disclaimer? Melo gets ZERO sympathy from me. He made his bed a long time ago and the past 3yrs he's been laying in it

ChuckBuck wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

mreinman wrote:

Knixkik wrote:These threads start every time we lose and Melo doesn't shoot well. Nothing to see here.

while that may be happening way too often the last few years, this thread has nothing to do with just one game. Its just a prediction since I don't think that he is happy (enough) here, wants to win now, and may want out.

No need to get defensive for melo so easily.

You wouldn't have started this thread if we won the last 2 games for example, that is my point.

But it's been a constant the whole season. Melo hasn't played well the whole season.

KP's surpassed him already as Alpha on the team, rather easily I might add. His win shares is at .155 WS/48 while Melo's is slowly declining each game and currently at .129. Win or loss, if Melo shoots or plays well it's getting more uncommon.

And let's not start the "surgical knee repair getting back into shape" excuse now, it's been preseason and 22 games already. He is what he is at this point. Old, wrong side of prime, declining, albatross contract.

This.
Pretty much what everyone against resigning Melo to max money feared would happen

fishmike wrote:

mreinman wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

mreinman wrote:

Knixkik wrote:These threads start every time we lose and Melo doesn't shoot well. Nothing to see here.

while that may be happening way too often the last few years, this thread has nothing to do with just one game. Its just a prediction since I don't think that he is happy (enough) here, wants to win now, and may want out.

No need to get defensive for melo so easily.

You wouldn't have started this thread if we won the last 2 games for example, that is my point.

probably not because then Melo would not have sounded so defected and make those comments about NY.

they were in reference to Deron and his inability to hack it here.

If you think Melo is waiving his no trade you have payed attention to nothing that player says and does. A grumpy post game interview does not translate to life changing decisions. Please. This is nothing more than Chuckbuck's normal day dreams around 420pm