Posted by fishmike:

good points all around. I think Islesfan and Briggs summed it up best. Dampier's upside of 12/12/3 for the next 4 years or so simply awesome... he's a good 2-way player and would an awesome fit. The downside is its tough to gage players that have spent 7 years on losing teams and have great seasons in contract years.

Rip made a good point though... 9mm seems awefully steep but w/ Camby getting 10mm, Kmart max, Foyal gets an insane 8mm-9mm, even guys like Doleac and Divac are getting solid paydays. Honestly I think 6 years 65mm is about market value for a 30 year old center coming off the year he had. If the deal's for Othella and Nazr its a no brainer to me.

Rip is BRIGGS? man, I gotta keep up.

Excellent two way player?! Well, I don't think he's that offensively polished. However, he seems to have a good enough feel to exploit teams if they leave him open. He's also big enough that he can manhandle those PFs masquerading as centers.

Interestingly, looking at the stats, Dampier actually had BETTER numbers against Western Conference teams than eastern conference teams.

check out this usenet scouting report on him from the 1996 draft:
http://www.ibiblio.org/craig/draft/1996_draft/scout/c.html

Unlike many of these chumpy centers--- it seems like Dampier also has had a high FG%, meaning he doesn't take too many bad shots. (or conversely, he takes a lot of easy shots!)

STRANGELY, he put up some of his worst numbers against the Knicks--- however GS blew us out both games.

David Aldridge says that Dampier is unlikely to sign with ATL.
here's the link
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=1842804

The more I think about it, the more excited I am about this Dampier deal. Not only are we getting (in theory) a better player, we're also opening up another roster spot for some experimental league-min-type players.

Rich, I really think this is the first of a few... I think this gets done tomorrow and then Zeke goes for Carter and a forward.

I don't see how he says no. The Knicks are offering him more money than Atlanta per year, and a chance to win.

Isola is reporting that there is no deal between the Knicks and Golden State. He has an attitude. I would like to see him look like a jerk:

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/story/213856p-184154c.html


Shaq v. Dampier head to head:

http://www.newsday.com/sports/basketball/ny-spknix203900242jul20,0,6511174.story?coll=ny-basketball-headlines

According to the Elias Sports Bureau, O'Neal shot 58.4 percent from the field and averaged 25.1 points, 11.5 rebounds, 3.1 assists and 2.9 blocks. Dampier shot 39.8 percent with 7.8 points and 7.1 rebounds

http://www.nj.com/sports/ledger/index.ssf?/base/sports-0/1090311001224120.xml

Knicks: Door open for them to acquire Dampier
Tuesday, July 20, 2004
BY DAVE D'ALESSANDRO
Star-Ledger Staff

The final barrier preventing the Knicks from acquiring Golden State's Erick Dampier could be lifted today, as Atlanta is expected to pass on making a substantial offer to the free-agent center -- or any offer at all, according to an Eastern Conference executive familiar with the Hawks' game plan.

The Hawks, the only team with abundant cap space left in this free-agent market, can offer Dampier more money than any other team, but they don't regard the 7-footer as a reliable building block, and are more likely to invest their bankroll in Memphis forward Stromile Swift.

That opens the door for the Knicks to complete a sign-and-trade acquisition with the Warriors for Dampier, though no agreement had been reached last night. The Knicks are offering Nazr Mohammed and Othella Harrington in the deal, which would enable them to pay Dampier $9 million in his first season.

Warriors GM Chris Mullin wouldn't tip his hand yesterday: "We talked to several other teams," he said, referring to Memphis and Indiana. "Nothing is imminent right now."

But Mullin, new on the job, has political ramifications to consider. Dampier is handled by Dan Fegan, one of the top agents in the game, and he favors his client landing in New York. Fegan already did Mullin a favor by having Dampier opt out of his contract, and he expects the GM to reciprocate by closing a deal with the Knicks -- otherwise, Fegan can make life miserable for the Warriors next summer, when two more clients, Jason Richardson and Troy Murphy, become free agents.

"He's certainly not setting Dampier up to play for somebody's midlevel exception," the executive said of Fegan, "or someone is going to be in serious trouble."

While Dampier could be a force in the East, he would represent the latest in a long line of mediocre Knicks players getting superstar contracts. Though Dampier had a career season last year (his 12.0 rebounds per game ranked fourth in the league), most GMs believe he was motivated by his opt-out opportunity, and more resembles the player who has averaged 8.9 points and 7.2 rebounds over his eight NBA seasons.

No plans have been made for Dampier to visit New York, a Knicks official said. Knicks president Isiah Thomas was home in Indianapolis yesterday, and was expected to return to New York later this week.

It's a concern. The mitigating factor is that it makes more sense to overpay for a starting C, like Dampier, than a back up PG, like Eisley, or a back up SF, like Anderson, or a back up PF, like Weatherpoon.

the Post article today has Dampier's agent trying to squeeze a 7th year out of Isiah by talking to the Hawks...Dampier at 38 making ~$12-$13 million dollars? i don't know about that one.

when you see other guy's paydays its market value. Interesting issue w/ GS and the fact that Dampier has the same agent as Troy Murphy and Jason Richardson. This tells me GS will lean towards giving Dampier what he wants.