nixluva wrote:I think it should be noted that Monroe only had 8 pts. Sure it's disappointing on the surface that RoLo only grabbed 2 Rebs but he was clearly focused on battling Monroe. For the game NY had 43 Rebs and Mil 41. The Bucks are a very long and athletic team. We didn't lose because of RoLo that's for sure.

Which 2 rebound game against the Bucks are you referring to, Friday's game or the first game of the season?

nychamp wrote:

knickscity wrote:Gotta agree with Holfresh, Lopez has been an awful rebounder here. I recall when Porzingis was boxing out well in preseason but not getting the rebounds, and guess what he did? Put in the effort to concentrate on getting those boxed out rebounding chances. Lopez should do the same, and it's rather silly for anyone to defend such poor efforts especially when the opposing centers are outrebounding him. He's not winning his matchup and his team isnt winning the game. Imagine if he gets outrebounded by Hibbert. Hope the team wins despite this.

Not saying that Lopez has been great overall, because he hasn't, but if this is your takeaway from his performance in the first six games you're either 1) not watching the games, only looking at the stats 2) not understanding what you're seeing when watching (i.e. Lopez often clearing out opponents under the board and letting others get the actual rebound).

Lopez's shot has looked awful at times, but his effort has been there. He is also a physical force under the glass, in constant struggle against the beefiest opponents, a job that if not done results in the Knicks being physically dominated throughout the game. It's revealing (about you) that you try equate his low rebounding numbers to effort. The effort is there. If you're watching, Rolo obviously prioritizing taking his man out of the play and doesn't care about padding his rebounding stats.

http://stats.nba.com/tracking/#!/player/defensive-rebounding/?sort=DREB_CHANCE_DEFER&dir=1

BRIGGS wrote:

nixluva wrote:I think it should be noted that Monroe only had 8 pts. Sure it's disappointing on the surface that RoLo only grabbed 2 Rebs but he was clearly focused on battling Monroe. For the game NY had 43 Rebs and Mil 41. The Bucks are a very long and athletic team. We didn't lose because of RoLo that's for sure.

Nixluva. I don't really count game 1 as the Bucks had 4 of their top 6 out. Since that time we are 1-4 with the one of worst offensive metrics in the nba. Why wouldn't moving Lopez to unit 2 Sasha and Jose straight out and moving Oquinn Galloway and Early in( until Affalo gets back to 35 minutes)

RoLo was brought in to be your starting C. He has been a starting C on 2 50 win teams. You don't make such a drastic move after 6 games! This isn't a Fantasy league where you can just snatch guys in and out of your SL. I think it would be a mistake to do that inside of the 1st 10 games.

Jose is a different story. There's reason to believe he may not ever be able to get his game back tho even in his case it's also very early to make the final call that he's done. I can understand being patient given that we're talking about 6 games here. Sasha was never in the plans to be starting so really moving him isn't an issue.

BRIGGS wrote:

nixluva wrote:I think it should be noted that Monroe only had 8 pts. Sure it's disappointing on the surface that RoLo only grabbed 2 Rebs but he was clearly focused on battling Monroe. For the game NY had 43 Rebs and Mil 41. The Bucks are a very long and athletic team. We didn't lose because of RoLo that's for sure.

Nixluva. I don't really count game 1 as the Bucks had 4 of their top 6 out. Since that time we are 1-4 with the one of worst offensive metrics in the nba. Why wouldn't moving Lopez to unit 2 Sasha and Jose straight out and moving Oquinn Galloway and Early in( until Affalo gets back to 35 minutes)

Wait, you can do that? Take something fanciful and add it to the arrangement mix and it's an automatic legit thing to say?

How about, we don't really count Hawks, Cavs or Spurs cause they are like top 3 in the league and we shouldn't win those games anyway. That way the Knicks are 2-1?

Bucks were without Parker for most of last year, so really the Bucks were without 1 starter, same as the Knicks.

mreinman wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Robin Lopez doesn't seem to want to rebound the ball and o quinn has

13 rebounds today. 14 points. 4 assists.

WRONG AS USUAL

Sigh! . SMDH at the unnecessary panic. RoLo has been a starting C on a team that made the playoffs in the West. You would think there would be some patience and a sense of perspective about this early point in the season. We all love KOQ but he's still developing and is fine in the role he has right now.

mreinman wrote:does anyone remember how Koq was abused in the SA game? He really has a hard time guarding big men in the post.

Yes, and we just saw Henson go off against him too. He is good back up that has a particular set of skills. With Lopez and O'quinn I am reall surprised that the knicks didn't try to get an athletic big instead of Serephin.

back to Kyle. I think him and Porzi need to trade 10-15 lbs. He also needs to learn not to stay on his feet and use his reach instead of jumping at every fake.