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10/26/2015  6:22 PM
smackeddog wrote:The Mavs just waived a very promising young player called NDour- I remember reading on some forums over the summer that he was a future star who should be offered 2 to 3 years guaranteed.
He was supposed to be this years Galloway. I do wonder if the Knicks were enamored with him enough to claim him off of waivers. They chased him even after he reportedly had a deal with Dallas. I think they should grab Jabari Brown but it will be interesting to see what they do with that open spot.
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10/26/2015  6:32 PM

From what I have read Philly loves Wood. Apparently he has been highly motivated since his draft night snub and has put in the work. T. J. played great for them. Hinkie waiving a lot of his second round draft picks.
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10/26/2015  7:06 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
smackeddog wrote:The Mavs just waived a very promising young player called NDour- I remember reading on some forums over the summer that he was a future star who should be offered 2 to 3 years guaranteed.
He was supposed to be this years Galloway. I do wonder if the Knicks were enamored with him enough to claim him off of waivers. They chased him even after he reportedly had a deal with Dallas. I think they should grab Jabari Brown but it will be interesting to see what they do with that open spot.

Dallas wanted to keep N'Dour but you rarely see players keep an undrafted player that's injured.

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10/26/2015  7:12 PM
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CrushAlot wrote:
smackeddog wrote:The Mavs just waived a very promising young player called NDour- I remember reading on some forums over the summer that he was a future star who should be offered 2 to 3 years guaranteed.
He was supposed to be this years Galloway. I do wonder if the Knicks were enamored with him enough to claim him off of waivers. They chased him even after he reportedly had a deal with Dallas. I think they should grab Jabari Brown but it will be interesting to see what they do with that open spot.

Dallas wanted to keep N'Dour but you rarely see players keep an undrafted player that's injured.


Dallas looks a bit foolish if they don't try to bring him on to their DL team. Almost positive that they gave him about $.5M guaranteed.

The emergence of Williams and Early makes it doubtful that we pick up Ndour at this point, IMO.

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10/26/2015  7:13 PM
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Finestrg wrote:The Lakers waived Jabari Brown:

http://www.latimes.com/sports/lakers/lakersnow/la-sp-ln-metta-world-peace-not-jabari-brown-gets-lakers-final-roster-spot-20151026-story.html
http://www.nba.com/lakers/releases/151026_jabariWaived

Go get this guy, Phil. Great fit. We need guard help, esp. at SG with Afflalo down (maybe for 2 weeksc or more). I've heard all the knocks on this kid: not big enough, not athletic enough, too one-dimensional. All true to a certain degree. Well you know what, though? I like that dimension he brings. This dude's a potent little scorer. Can go get his own shot whenever he wants, he gets to the FT line at a good rate and he's not some volume shooter--he's a quality outside shooter. Abouve average 3-pt shooter wherever he's been--college, DL, Lakers...Perfect addition to make right now with Afflalo down. Not even sure he'd play a ton but we grab him now as the 15th guy (the opposite of Thanasis btw--people didn't like TA because he didn't have enough offensive polish. Well this guy's offensive game is NBA-ready) and either acclimate him to play within a few days or we assign him to Westchester and have him develop further there along with Travis Trice (hopefully nobody else signs Trice). That'd be two nice guards to have tucked away that are capable of playing at the NBA level. Again though, Jabari's good enough to contribute for us right now. There's no doubt.. We could use more scoring punch with AA down--that's what this kid brings. he even reminds me of AA a little. Afflalo/Shannon Brown (less athletic).

I was watching that Laker backcourt some in pre-season because they seemed to have a log-jam going on there and I thought Brown might be cut.

The have Clarkson, Russell, Swaggy-P, Sweet Lou Williams and Huertas ahead of him so not like he didn't have any competition.

He somewhat reminds me of Courtney Lee as a smaller/combo guard who can score some --- probably a more aggressive scorer and worse defender than Lee.

I wouldn't be upset if we picked up Brown. Also like Lorenzo Brown because he is a pure PG plus like N-Johnson.

I like the Courtney Lee comparison...I think I'd actually prefer Jabari Brown over Lorenzo Brown or Nick Johnson. I'd rather have a guy really good at something over guys that seem average at everything. NJ has a lot to offer too, no question -- JB's just seems like the more efficient scorer than either of those other guys. Just more NBA ready. I betcha if we went out and got Jabari right now, got him up to speed the best we could and decided we were going to get him some immediate PT, he'd go out and score double figures opening night in Milwaukee. Good chance he could drop 20 if we got him enough shots. I like him as a scorer that much..Another thing I like about him is his demeanor -- he's just a relentless scorer out there that puts his head down and keeps coming at you. He seems very confident, calm, cool and collected. Being thrust right into a rotation spot with the Knicks wouldn't faze him at all. I think he'd thrive here...Just very good at what he does--and what he does, we need. We're not replacing Afflalo's scoring with Sasha V. Not happening. We need more reliable scoring beside Melo and D-Will. And we needed stronger SG depth anyway, even at full strength. With JB in the mix, we'd have better overall guard depth...What if Afflalo's injury lingers a lot longer than anticipated and/or pops up again throughout the season? What if Sasha's done as a player? What if Galloway regresses or hits that 2nd year wall? All that could happen...This a chance to stabilize the SG spot with a nice young prospect that's actually capable of contributing legit scoring punch right away. No brainer...Again, for the money he'd be making, if something better came along, just waive him and add the better player. For now though, he's a good choice to finalize this roster with.


Nick Johnson has the potential to be really good at D. His athleticism us already top tier. He just needs to find more consistency on his shot. I think he has better chance of becoming a decent shooter than Browm has of becoming a good defender
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10/26/2015  7:17 PM    LAST EDITED: 10/26/2015  7:46 PM
smackeddog wrote:The Mavs just waived a very promising young player called NDour- I remember reading on some forums over the summer that he was a future star who should be offered 2 to 3 years guaranteed.

He earned a training camp contract based on his play in SL, and maybe the kind of deal we gave Trice, Atkins, and Saunders...maybe a little more, in fact, so that he could make enough $$ playing on our DL team if he got cut in TC.

Edit...

From Bobby Marks on Twitter: Some of this is confusing.


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10/26/2015  9:31 PM
Utah waived PG Bryce Cotton a few days ago. I feel Jabari Brown's the better fit at this time but I like this kid Cotton. Another guard worth considering.
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10/26/2015  10:50 PM    LAST EDITED: 10/26/2015  10:55 PM
Some moves I'd love to see: waive Lance Thomas and sign both Jabari Brown and Bryce Cotton. Also immediately sign Maurice Ndour to a D-League deal. We'd upgrade the backcourt with nice young firepower at both spots and we rehab Ndour, a guy we initially found and liked. When Ndour makes it back 100%, we'd have a much better player than Lance Thomas on our hands. Depth chart at SF looks good in the meantime: Melo followed by D-Will and Early. If we ever needed another SF for some reason, we could always tap the DL for a better player than L Thomas. No reason for Thomas to occupy a roster spot. The Knicks already did him a huge solid by giving him a guaranteed NBA contract worth over $1mm. If they really value him and want him around, waive him and offer to hire him back as a coach. Tell him a coaching spot is waiting for him should he not catch on somewhere else as a player. He'd then be in the mix as a coach, an extra practice body, a solid locker room presence--all the qualities about him everyone is so enthralled with, only he wouldn't occupy a valuable roster spot.
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10/27/2015  6:16 AM
Finestrg wrote:Utah waived PG Bryce Cotton a few days ago. I feel Jabari Brown's the better fit at this time but I like this kid Cotton. Another guard worth considering.


Cotton is not even 6' but Phil did say he wanted a small change of pace, pesky PG (hence why he got what's his name last year.)
I wonder with the change of pace Grant brings if Phil still wants a smaller guy? We do need another guard.
Cotton can really D it up and can score as well. He was an all Big East PG, that says something. Could really be a pain in practice.
Decent college stats http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Bryce-Cotton-17832/stats/
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10/27/2015  9:12 AM    LAST EDITED: 10/27/2015  11:28 AM
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Finestrg wrote:Utah waived PG Bryce Cotton a few days ago. I feel Jabari Brown's the better fit at this time but I like this kid Cotton. Another guard worth considering.


Cotton is not even 6' but Phil did say he wanted a small change of pace, pesky PG (hence why he got what's his name last year.)
I wonder with the change of pace Grant brings if Phil still wants a smaller guy? We do need another guard.
Cotton can really D it up and can score as well. He was an all Big East PG, that says something. Could really be a pain in practice.
Decent college stats http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Bryce-Cotton-17832/stats/

Yeah, Shane Larkin...Good point--Phil did have positive things to say about Larkin and what he thought he could bring after that trade went down (soured on him by the end of the yr though). I actually think Cotton might be better than Larkin. I definitely think he'd perform better here in NY (Larkin couldn't handle it).. Again, I think Jabari Brown's the better fit right now -- I'd love to see us secure that guy first. But honestly, I'd go the whole 9 in terms of backcourt insurance--waive L Thomas and add Cotton as well. Or, if they're really intent on keeping Thomas and didn't want Brown, Cotton would be a pretty good fit by himself too. I wonder what Cotton at the point and Grant at the 2 would look like. Pretty darn dynamic...Brown AND Cotton both make a ton of sense to add. There's a chance that we could be dealing with injuries and ineffectiveness with Calderon and Vujacic all year long. Afflalo's already out with an injury and may miss around 2 weeks. I'd love to have young dynamic guards we could transition over to at a moment's notice. Brown and Cotton make some sense to add for trade purposes too, esp. if we managed to add them and they actually played and played well. Add both guys, Phil! I wouldn't pass this opportunity up. We get 15 spots to fill -- make the most of it!! Watch how we pass both guys up now.

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10/27/2015  4:35 PM
So of all the guys that we've mentioned none have been claimed by anybody?
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10/27/2015  9:15 PM    LAST EDITED: 10/27/2015  9:26 PM
Lakers waived Jabari Brown to keep Metta.

I think he should be the knicks target, especially with Afflalo's injury. Sign him to a team option and your good. If somebody nicer comes out he can still be waived no hassle. For now he can become an off the bench scorer and see if they can help him with his damn defense.

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10/27/2015  9:41 PM
I doubt that the Knicks grab him. He seems a little too undisciplined for their liking. We should grab one of these guards though as we have an open slot. Why not?
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10/28/2015  3:05 AM
wargames wrote:Lakers waived Jabari Brown to keep Metta.

I think he should be the knicks target, especially with Afflalo's injury. Sign him to a team option and your good. If somebody nicer comes out he can still be waived no hassle. For now he can become an off the bench scorer and see if they can help him with his damn defense.

Completely agree. No brainer.

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10/29/2015  5:01 PM    LAST EDITED: 10/29/2015  5:04 PM
Thannasis is signing with westchester Knicks according to Begley tweet
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10/29/2015  8:05 PM
smackeddog wrote:Thannasis is signing with westchester Knicks according to Begley tweet
Wow. I would think he would want to move on.
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10/30/2015  8:31 PM
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10/30/2015  10:23 PM
We could still use Lorenzo Brown to, er, relieve the pressure off of Calderon (by that I mean turn him into Steve Kerr or Paxson). PG with excellent D, size, great assist to turnover ratio, experience. Why not?
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10/31/2015  4:23 AM
Any news about who we may be looking at for the 15th spot? There's not been a single rumor or mention as far as I am aware
Some interesting guys getting waived

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