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KP draining 3's working out with Melo
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BRIGGS
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8/17/2015  12:12 PM
Meyers Leonard. The Blazers did not develop him the right way he should b much better than he is right now. I still think he can be a very nice player but if his development went inside/out he'd be much farther ahead.
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dk7th
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8/17/2015  12:13 PM
blkexec wrote:
nixluva wrote:The crazy thing is WE JUST SAW KP6 in Summer League and he was playing his normal versatile game. He was used everywhere. That's the nature of the Triangle. You need to be versatile as possible because you could end up with the ball at any spot on the floor. Doesn't mean you have to try to score from 3 if you're RoLo but if you have that kind of game like KP6 does, it's an option.

KP6 himself said that he needs to work on his post game. He clearly needs to refine some go to moves. It would be awesome if he could come in with a clearer idea of how he wants to set his man up in the post. For now I think he may want to face up his man and use the threat of his jumper. Jab step fadeaway seems like a possibility with his size. Jump Hook is already looking pretty smooth. I feel pretty good about the kids potential since he already shows the agility and coordination to perform just about any move. Just needs reps and to get stronger.

Knick fans are on a different time scale.....Everything must happen in a NY minute. Which is why it's so damn difficult to develop home grown talent. Only a few can handle this type of pressure. I think KP is one of those few!

the fans? it's ownership that is responsible. dolan is a greedy coward and a basketball simpleton.

the only people up in arms at this point about the jackson era are the diehard melo ball-garglers, and that starts with stephen a smith and his coterie of braying jackasses.

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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8/17/2015  2:45 PM
WaltLongmire wrote:Wait on the weight.

This will determine where he eventually plays, IMO...

No...height alone does not make you a good player in the post- that's why you work on your interior game. We know he can hit a J. He's even talked a lot about having to work on his post-up game. Briggs, like me, does not want KP camped out on the perimeter- he's just a bit more fearful of it than I am.

I sometimes get the feeling that some of you are wetting your pants dreaming about him doing crossovers at mid-court and finishing with a contested 3. Am I right about this feeling?


Maybe the Knicks do some of the GS Curry/Green high screen type stuff, but that doesn't seem to be Phil's thing at this point. I've seen KP in that situation in some of his Spanish games, though, and he seems very comfortable out there. Despite his build, he readily sets picks, and I expect him to benefit from them, but I think most of his Js will be midrange.

I might have more confidence in his all around BB skills than some, and I see them working the offense through him at some point down the road, and though I might be "old school," and not know as much as some of you young whippersnappers- I do know that for the most part, you don't work your offense through a stretch 4 who is hanging around on the perimeter.

As good as Dirk is, the guy has averaged about 2.5 APG for his career. As big as he is, he's averaged less than 1BPG. I'm hoping that KP is at the 4/5 APG, 2.5 BPG levels.

I want KP to be better than Nowitski, especially his interior D and post up game. Expect to see some Dirk fallbacks, but would rather see KP with some more aggressive inside moves.

We will see.

No. Not at all.

Nobody who understands the game would think that.

Part of the reason that Amare and Melo did not work was because they got in each others way. If Melo is operating in the post than KP has to give him space and also be a deep threat ala novak.

One thing that he can do that Novak could not was ball fake and drive. He can also tear apart defenses doing this and hit open teammates on the break downs.

When Melo is ISO'ing then KP will be camped out just like everyone else.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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8/17/2015  2:55 PM
mreinman wrote:
WaltLongmire wrote:Wait on the weight.

This will determine where he eventually plays, IMO...

No...height alone does not make you a good player in the post- that's why you work on your interior game. We know he can hit a J. He's even talked a lot about having to work on his post-up game. Briggs, like me, does not want KP camped out on the perimeter- he's just a bit more fearful of it than I am.

I sometimes get the feeling that some of you are wetting your pants dreaming about him doing crossovers at mid-court and finishing with a contested 3. Am I right about this feeling?


Maybe the Knicks do some of the GS Curry/Green high screen type stuff, but that doesn't seem to be Phil's thing at this point. I've seen KP in that situation in some of his Spanish games, though, and he seems very comfortable out there. Despite his build, he readily sets picks, and I expect him to benefit from them, but I think most of his Js will be midrange.

I might have more confidence in his all around BB skills than some, and I see them working the offense through him at some point down the road, and though I might be "old school," and not know as much as some of you young whippersnappers- I do know that for the most part, you don't work your offense through a stretch 4 who is hanging around on the perimeter.

As good as Dirk is, the guy has averaged about 2.5 APG for his career. As big as he is, he's averaged less than 1BPG. I'm hoping that KP is at the 4/5 APG, 2.5 BPG levels.

I want KP to be better than Nowitski, especially his interior D and post up game. Expect to see some Dirk fallbacks, but would rather see KP with some more aggressive inside moves.

We will see.

No. Not at all.

Nobody who understands the game would think that.

Part of the reason that Amare and Melo did not work was because they got in each others way. If Melo is operating in the post than KP has to give him space and also be a deep threat ala novak.

One thing that he can do that Novak could not was ball fake and drive. He can also tear apart defenses doing this and hit open teammates on the break downs.

When Melo is ISO'ing then KP will be camped out just like everyone else.


The one difference is that players can continue to move and flash to the Elbow even when a player has a One on One look. It's why the One on One is effective. You occupy the defense and also present a passing option in the line of sight of the ISO player if they double him.

People may not realize that there are 4 out looks in the Triangle. They just don't feature it as a formation. They move into a 4 out look out of the base Triangle look off cuts. In any event there will be many times where movement takes KP6 out behind the 3pt line. It's just the flow of the offense and how it creates space.

KP draining 3's working out with Melo

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