TPercy wrote:WaltLongmire wrote:TPercy wrote:newyorker4ever wrote:TPercy wrote:BRIGGS wrote:TPercy wrote:crzymdups wrote:TPercy wrote:crzymdups wrote:Yeah I think Amundson, Cole and Lance will be back on minimum deals. That leaves one final spot. I'd assume it's Shved getting the room? Or maybe they try to split the room between Jason Smith and Shved and let Cole go.
Berman reported that Phil is trying to bring back Lou and Lance on minimum deals. I did hear the Spurs and one other team were interested in Lance.
I don't know what to think about Thanasis. Love his energy but his game seems raw. I don't think fans would be as interested in him if it weren't for his brother.
We have 3 spots left. Lance makes no sense because we already have 3 SFs unless we don't plan to get another SG. Quite frankly I don't want Lance back, I would rather get someone with leadership qualities like Caron Butler. Phil shouldn't be in any rush to sign a reserve pf. What if Labeyrie shows out in summer league? Stupid move.
Just going by what's been reported - Phil is trying to bring back Amundson and Lance. Those are two guys Fisher trusts to bring the right approach. I think they'll be back.
Under contract I have the Knicks having:
Calderon
Grant
Afflalo
Galloway
Ledo (partial guarantee til August I think)
Melo
Early
Williams
Porzingis
RLopez
O'Quinn
That's 11
Thanasis is not officially signed
Amundson and Lance are rumored to be minimum deals.
Which could leave us at 13 guys and the room exception left to fill two spots.
I'm not convinced Ledo is back though.
I think Jason Smith and Shved and Cole will be in the mix for the last two spots, but I'm in favor of waiting til Summer League plays out to set the roster. Maybe Thanasis earns a spot.
I wonder if Ledo plays summer league?
http://www.spotrac.com/nba/new-york-knicks/ricky-ledo/
Thanasis is going to be signed. Phil stated that and he should rightfully so be signed. Whats the point of keeping someone in the D League to learn the system and not sign him? I don't think Phil is that stupid. We have 12. Signing Lance means that Thanasis will play SG. Amundson should wait until Summer League is over..
Thansis is a serious ? he has proven nothing. He's a wait and see
Other than the fact that he is an uber athletic two way player. We need defense, aggression and penetration. Thanasis provides all of that.
Who's a two way player?? Thanasis?? Hahahaha he has a long way to go before his offense works for the NBA.
His shot does need work, but he is a good slasher and finisher at the rim. He rarely takes jumpers and 3s anyways which is fine by me.
Thanasis was probably drafted based on the assumption his offensive game would improve from his pre-draft DLeague season.His shooting numbers were pretty terrible-everything took a dip. 3 Pt % dropped from 30% to 23%. FT % dropped from 66% to 62%, and his 2Pt % dropped from 57% to 52%.
He turns 23 in a few days.
I would love to see him show something in SL, but why you would be happy about him not taking any kinds of jumpers is beyond me. He does not take them because he's smart enough to know he can't make them. He does some good things on the court, but I think you need well-rounded players at this point in time, and Thanasis is an offensive liability.
I actually think Phil would prefer Lance Thomas over him at this point.
I could see his rights being traded to a team that might better use what he has to offer.
We BADLY lacked penetration last season. It is really annoying seeing our players take 16 feet+ jump shots all the time. Even though Thansis isn't that great of a shooter, at he always going to the rim and playing good defense. It is better than watching Thomas brick 16 footers.
TOTALLY AGREE, Grant is the only one that has the ability to penetrate and he is a rookie so we need to give him at least 1/2 through the season in year 1 and likely year 2
We need multiple players that could penetrate/facilitate consistently, especially when we have a player as skilled as KP to spread the floor and run the PnR with
Players that can draw double teams with their speed/quickness, to create open shots for others, though Larkin was undersized, he could do just that along with Shved
That is why I hope we get a BIG combo guard like Daniel Hackett, to compliment Calderon who could spread the floor and should be the 2nd ball handler at best
Unless Early improves his handle, he will not be able to play SG and lacks speed/quickness to defend the position, to save a roster spot, we should look to trade him with Shved/Cole Aldrich/Acy if we can get any value out of them, especially to Clippers who needs a bench
On top of that getting players in the D League that I have been hoping we acquire
1- Jerrelle Benimon SF, SF/PF, strech 4, maybe a Lamor Odom type player as a triple double threat, could be a poor mans Draymond Green/Covington 6-8, 245pds
2- Jarell Eddie, G/F, a Danny Green type talent on shooting SG/SF WITH AS A SNIPER 6-7 220pds
3- Scotty Hopson, G/F, another G/F that can shoot and score/penetrate/facilitate, decent versatile game as well COULD PLAY PG/SG and for the Triangle can play the lead guard with shooters to space the floor 6-6 205pds
D League has MANY SG/SF's and solid backups in PG, PF/C, and Center available
Jared Cunningham PG/SG
Nate Walters PG/SG and is a SNIPER that could play a Steve Kerr type of role, only if we have multiple facilitators that could defend/shoot efficiently to spread the floor/penetrate and create in other positions
There are many other PG's like Aaron Craft, that could play a Steve Blake role, including, Tim Frazier if released by Portland who was very good for Philly when he played, or players like Patty Mills role as a shooter that could penetrate as well
Bryce Cotton/Stockton
As well as European PG's and our summer league invites
For the Triangle especially, we need players that could facilitate in other positions like Iggy/David Lee, like a young Lamar Odom, a young Kobe, Pau Gasol, Ron Harper/Brian Shaw, Jordan/Pippen/Kukoc did in the system, we need multiple TALENTS that could score 1v1, draw double teams, facilitate, rebound/defend multiple positions, create mismatches, and spread the floor
We currently have too many ROLE PLAYERS that are overpaid, as we were unable to draw top tier talents or even 2nd tier talents that could SCORE/FACILITATE and REBOUND/DEFEND in multiple positions
I question Affalo at his age along with Derrick Williams who should not have priorities to get PLAYER OPTIONS on us, especially Derrick Williams who I like but is closer to a VET MIN contract to 3m at best with a team option for 2nd, or signed on a cap friendly deal for 2-3years, who has done NOTHING the past 2 seasons on The Kings and in Twovles as a tweener to deserve that much money and a PLAYER OPTION on us
While Wesley Johnson, Aminu, were both UFA's that could have improved our defense significantly that has the versatility to defend/play multiple positions
Add in James Johnson in a trade with a 2.5m expiring deal who barely played in the play offs last year at SF/PF when they needed him most as Wizards went small, we would own his early bird rights to resign him next year with a low cap hold, while we could have took a chance on ex slam dunk champion, Jeremy Evans at SF/PF who signed a 2year vet min deal with Dallas, with great length/athleticism and has the upside to defend multiple positions
Philly
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I think Jakarr Sampson is a player that could be a better version of Aminu on Philly's roster, I also have interest in Tony Wroten who I wish we would have acquired last year as I anticipated him breaking out immediately as he did with MCW injury, Covington and mabye Grant's brother Jerian Grant and Hollis Thompson
Luc Mboute is another solid role player/defender who is UFA, for the vet min
Thomas Robinson signed a 2year vet min deal with the Nets and had we offered him the same deal, with our lack of BIGS, he would have taken such an offer in a system that FITS his skills
Twolves
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Shabazz Muhammad would be the #2 option that could get to the basket and finish with contact and finish with both hands, is a lefty, and they signed the SF/PF from Europe that we were rumored to trading for had he pushed for a trade as leverage, while taking on some VETS like Budinger *expiring* and maybe even Kevin Martin, in order to add talent, as Twolves have MANY YOUNG talents that they are looking to play together with much depth/versatility
Celtics
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Even Celtics has some role multiple talents that look to shed salaries off we could use like , Jae Crowder/Jonas Jerekbko/Amir Johnson *that they both just resigned/signed*, Isiah Thomas, Avery Bradley/Evan Turner, Jared Sullinger/Tyler Zeller/Kelly Olynicks/, they have many PG, SG's, and PG/SG's, new additions of Jordan Mickey, Gigi Datome *RFA*, Terry Rozier/R.J. Hunter *shooter, just drafted*, and many future draft picks, already with Marcus Smart/James Young
Both right now and in the trade deadline, we need to upgrade our roster,
We could target players and look to acquire talents in the trade deadline as they have MANY YOUNG TALENTS that we could use and see who offers us the best package, with these teams STOCKED with future draft picks but limited roster spots, possibly even GET them for NOTHING, as they look to develop their young talents for salary dumps, as they will look to sign TOP TIER TALENTS that will likely will turn us down (being realistic with the way we signed bottom tier role players while paying a premium for them...
Next summer or maybe in the trade deadline this year,
While we target players such as David Lee, Battum/ Wilson Chandler/Gallo, Randy Foye/DJ Austine, Hickson/Speights, and younger talents like Jabari Brown/Tyler Johnson/Justin Holiday etc
Ognjen Kuzmic is a Center that barely played and was in the D League with James McAdoo, going back and forth, which played VERY WELL in the D League, and Ognjen Kuzmic is a RFA that is a Center that we could have looked at
Hassan Whiteside would have been IDEAL for our system to pair with KP as both are extremely athletic/LONG and YOUNG forming a DUO that would have great rebounding/speed/mobility/athleticism/length together for REBOUNDING/DEFENSE/ and LEGIT #1 and #2 options over CA as they develop together to be our future
Though we can still target him, we would be paying a lot of money for Lopez to be a backup, a reason why I didn't want him at that price, along with a TEAM OPTION for final year, possibly a 3year deal as well
Not sure if Lopez will be tradeable as the league evolves, for younger Centers that are more mobile and could step out to defend PnR's better and contest 3pt shooters and defend guards
But if Lopez does play well and has value, moving him while acquiring Whiteside would CHANGE our ability to attract ALL STARS and CONTEND RIGHT AWAY and with YOUNG Players for the next 12 years +
7/7/2015 5:31 PM