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CrushAlot
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7/3/2015  12:08 AM
DJMUSIC wrote:

Lets hope & pray Robin Lopez & Afflalo puts some toughness onto Knicks
especially help getting KP bulked up whom will need MSG Gym fulltime
or 24x7 asap

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7/3/2015  12:09 AM
mreinman wrote:
wh4t wrote:i'm cool with RoLo and Afflalo

ROMFAO

and Melo.
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7/3/2015  12:09 AM
mreinman wrote:
wh4t wrote:i'm cool with RoLo and Afflalo

ROMFAO

and Melo.
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7/3/2015  12:09 AM
mreinman wrote:
wh4t wrote:i'm cool with RoLo and Afflalo

ROMFAO

and Melo.
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7/3/2015  12:09 AM
stopstandthere wrote:
mreinman wrote:
wh4t wrote:i'm cool with RoLo and Afflalo

ROMFAO

and Melo.

ROLOFALOMELO

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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7/3/2015  12:10 AM
mreinman wrote:
stopstandthere wrote:
mreinman wrote:
wh4t wrote:i'm cool with RoLo and Afflalo

ROMFAO

and Melo.

ROLOFALOMELO

LOLROLOFALOMELO
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7/3/2015  12:17 AM
Do y'all remember those weight gainers GNC use to sell back in the early 2000's? I wish they didn't stop selling them so i can order some for Kristaps lanky scarecrow looking self. Dude look like Ivan Drago from Rocky but isn't built like him.
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7/3/2015  12:21 AM
wh4t wrote:Do y'all remember those weight gainers GNC use to sell back in the early 2000's? I wish they didn't stop selling them so i can order some for Kristaps lanky scarecrow looking self. Dude look like Ivan Drago from Rocky but isn't built like him.

David Robinson was 6-8 185 at the same age as Porzingis

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7/3/2015  12:21 AM
DJMUSIC wrote:[

In that photo Lopez is looking like one of those Geico Insurance cavemen from a few years ago.
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7/3/2015  12:24 AM    LAST EDITED: 7/3/2015  12:40 AM
wh4t wrote:Do y'all remember those weight gainers GNC use to sell back in the early 2000's? I wish they didn't stop selling them so i can order some for Kristaps lanky scarecrow looking self. Dude look like Ivan Drago from Rocky but isn't built like him.

KP has to gain some weight and muscle, but pretty sure that the photo being shown here is from 2 seasons ago, at least. Not positive, but it does not seem that recent- possibly 18?


Lew at 17, about the same age as the Porzingis photo, I think.

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7/3/2015  12:25 AM    LAST EDITED: 7/3/2015  12:50 AM
What a bizarre-ass off-season. LOVED the draft but it's been followed up by the most lackluster, head-scratching FA period a team with cap space could possibly have...There's still time to salvage it I guess but man I swear, I don't get what they're doing at all. Robin Lopez? $12-13mm? Really??? I just don't see this move for the life of me. $12mm for Robin Lopez SINKS any chance we have of doing anything else significant at this point.. There was no rhyme or reason to anything they did or tried to do. They locked in Aaron Afflalo thinking that along with Melo and Porzingis, it would help lure Greg Monroe. It didn't. The man chose the Milwaukee Bucks over us... The Melo factor was non-existent here in FA btw... Who cares that Melo was already here? None of these FA do, I can tell you that!! Now we're stuck with Afflalo and I bet Phil deep down wishes he could have that back--so that's minus 8mm off the cap right there. Now we're at $19mm...Then they have a sit-down with LaMarcus Aldridge cancelled outright (how embarrassing is that?) because they want the guy to play C and apparently refuse to budge off the idea (how it reads to me)...I mean how 'bout a "well, that's not set in stone of course. Let's meet and we can talk about it"?? Now in a panic move, we go out and give RoLo $12-13mm which, as it turns out, probably should've been our very first move -- if we had gotten Lopez first, we could've sat down with Aldridge (or Monroe first I suppose) and talked the PF spot exclusively with each player, and thus had a much better shot at either guy. These guy's are both scoring 4s--they don't want to play the 5 and don't belong playing the 5 (I had Alexis Ajinca picked out for my starting C over a month ago). Amar'e took one for the team and did it but did he really want to play the 5 when he was here? No, he didn't. He was outspoken against it in fact...Now we bring in Lopez on top of Afflalo -- that's 8 + 12-13 = $21mm, only approx. $6mm left to spend now. You wanna tell me the plan now is to conserve the rest for the following off-season--nah, don't buy it. That was never their plan. They were talking to max FAs only hours ago.

I don't even care for Robin Lopez to be honest. He's a capable defensive backup 5 that we gave starter money to, albeit for 1 yr I understand, but the dollar amount just torpedoed any chance we have of doing anything else significant... For the money--I would've preferred Kosta Koufos--at least you can reason that KK still has untapped offensive ability that could still be developed (I would've saw to it if I were Phil and Fish). The college version of Kosta Koufos was a DAMN GOOD player, much better than what he's settled for being in the pro game thusfar. I would've preferred Koufos over RoLo myself and we couldn't even do that. I mean Jordan Bachnyski's out there and we're bringing in this Ovidijus Galdikas for SL -- two big Cs who in all likelihood, could've given us everything Robin Lopez will wind up giving us, probably more...No need to give RoLo $13mm now--that should've been our very first move, pre-Afflalo, to lure LMA or GM. SMH man...

At this point with the leftover cash--I'm hoping for Alexey Shved and Derrick Williams. And even that feels like a **** up because Shved was supposed to be an extra piece we had on the back burner that we supposedly were planning to exceed the cap to bring back after at least one tier 1 guy was in the fold. Could still try to sign Shved in that manner I guess...Jesus, what a mess. Just comes across like they didn't have a solid plan at all. Everything should've flowed much better, like dominos -- move B needed to come first (the lure for move A), then A, then the C/D moves...We went out and overpaid for a C/D guy first, then B and now there can be no A... This is why I would've looked to hook up multiple FAs all at once on one conference call or one of the first sit-downs...I was calling for that weeks ago because I was fearing they wouldn't have a proper plan in place and you know what, I was right--it doesn't look like they did.

Raise your hand if Aaron Afflalo and Robin Lopez gets your juices flowing, if that's the FA you envisioned with $27mm in cap room. Exactly...
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7/3/2015  12:29 AM
^^^^I like Afflalo a lot better than the Matthews (pending) and Carrol signings. I think he is a good addition. I really wanted Monroe. Not sure that Koufos wouldn't do the same thing Lopez does but Lopez seems to be the flavor of the month and the Knicks needed to get one of those guys. Not what I was hoping for but things looked really bad. The Knicks should have 8 mil left to spend if they don't stretch Jose. I think they could grab another player or two.
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7/3/2015  12:30 AM
We have more money to spend!!! Phil has done a good job so far. Solid if not spectacular players. We needed reliable pros.
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7/3/2015  12:32 AM
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7/3/2015  12:32 AM
CrushAlot wrote:^^^^I like Afflalo a lot better than the Matthews (pending) and Carrol signings. I think he is a good addition. I really wanted Monroe. Not sure that Koufos wouldn't do the same thing Lopez does but Lopez seems to be the flavor of the month and the Knicks needed to get one of those guys. Not what I was hoping for but things looked really bad. The Knicks should have 8 mil left to spend if they don't stretch Jose. I think they could grab another player or two.

Sorry for another rant--I've had a couple over the last day or so--but man, the FA period has been a real kick to the gut so far. Beyond disappointing..
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7/3/2015  12:35 AM
nixluva wrote:We have more money to spend!!! Phil has done a good job so far. Solid if not spectacular players. We needed reliable pros.

Solid players--come on nix spectacular???

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7/3/2015  12:36 AM
Finestrg wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:^^^^I like Afflalo a lot better than the Matthews (pending) and Carrol signings. I think he is a good addition. I really wanted Monroe. Not sure that Koufos wouldn't do the same thing Lopez does but Lopez seems to be the flavor of the month and the Knicks needed to get one of those guys. Not what I was hoping for but things looked really bad. The Knicks should have 8 mil left to spend if they don't stretch Jose. I think they could grab another player or two.

Sorry for another rant--I've had a couple over the last day or so--but man, the FA period has been a real kick to the gut so far. Beyond disappointing..

No worries. I was really bummed about Monroe. I thought he would be perfect in the triangle. Can't believe he passed on the Knicks. Not happy with guys saying the roster isn't good enough etc. I felt like the Knicks might get shut out. The Mavs and Lakers are in tough spots if they don't get someone.
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7/3/2015  12:37 AM
CrushAlot wrote:

Hes not counting in the cap being 2mm higher.

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7/3/2015  12:37 AM
Finestrg wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:^^^^I like Afflalo a lot better than the Matthews (pending) and Carrol signings. I think he is a good addition. I really wanted Monroe. Not sure that Koufos wouldn't do the same thing Lopez does but Lopez seems to be the flavor of the month and the Knicks needed to get one of those guys. Not what I was hoping for but things looked really bad. The Knicks should have 8 mil left to spend if they don't stretch Jose. I think they could grab another player or two.

Sorry for another rant--I've had a couple over the last day or so--but man, the FA period has been a real kick to the gut so far. Beyond disappointing..

I just wonder if you have an overly high expectation on FA market. The signing of Rolo and Afflalo are indeed very solid and close to reality, and we did it.
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7/3/2015  12:38 AM    LAST EDITED: 7/3/2015  12:48 AM
nixluva wrote:We have more money to spend!!! Phil has done a good job so far. Solid if not spectacular players. We needed reliable pros.

Wow, really?? I don't feel that way at all. Without one of the top FAs, my expectations for the team have done a complete 180. Now instead of thinking competitive team & playoffs, I'll have to condition myself to just be content watching guys like Porzingis, Grant and whatever other promising youngsters we can bring in develop for the future. That'll be fun and rewarding in of itself but man, with $27mm in cap space, I was hoping Phil could've put together a much better team than what this is shaping up to be..

And as far as adding "reliable pros" -- we went out and got Aaron Afflalo for 1 yr + a player option (which he will decline in order to get a raise when the cap rises next year) and Lopez 1 yr/same deal. Both of these guys are pure stopgaps that WILL NOT be part of our future.. Melo will be a year older and more cranky -- who do we expect to lure next off-season? I'll be praying every night to the big guy upstairs that Porzingis AND Grant BOTH really turn some heads and meet/exceed expectations this year.
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