WAKEUPKNICKS2015 wrote:briggs, the ultimate Knicks local drunk lmao. How are you so sure that a guy slotted to be picked outside the top 10 will be the Knicks pick at 4, along with another guy out the top 10 in Kaminsky. You change your mind more than a girl in forever 22 brah. Take a Xanax and try not to start more than 10 threads between now and Thursday about your "final" mock draft. We're going Mudiay or Porzingis...unless somehow okafor or Russell fall in our lap. Mudiay will be a star for the Knicks, as long as Jackson somehow has the balls to fire Fisher...who is afraid to stand up to melo. And we NEED a coach willing to stand up to melo, for our coach to gain respect.

Yo, Johnny-come-lately with 23 posts, why don't you settle down and show a little respect for a poster that's been here for over a decade and knows basketball.
If you don't like BRIGGS' threads, go elsewhere.

Panos wrote:

WAKEUPKNICKS2015 wrote:briggs, the ultimate Knicks local drunk lmao. How are you so sure that a guy slotted to be picked outside the top 10 will be the Knicks pick at 4, along with another guy out the top 10 in Kaminsky. You change your mind more than a girl in forever 22 brah. Take a Xanax and try not to start more than 10 threads between now and Thursday about your "final" mock draft. We're going Mudiay or Porzingis...unless somehow okafor or Russell fall in our lap. Mudiay will be a star for the Knicks, as long as Jackson somehow has the balls to fire Fisher...who is afraid to stand up to melo. And we NEED a coach willing to stand up to melo, for our coach to gain respect.

Yo, Johnny-come-lately with 23 posts, why don't you settle down and show a little respect for a poster that's been here for over a decade and knows basketball.
If you don't like BRIGGS' threads, go elsewhere.

Agreed. Thanks.

Knicks1969 wrote:

jbeachboy wrote:pacers wont clear wcs medically

What do u mean????

something wrong with his foot

rpknicks wrote:

Just wonder if some of you guys actually listen to and understand what Jackson says when he gives a press conference.
Jotted down some notes from the recent press conference:

He commented on the Euro leagues and specifically mentioned the preeminence of the Spanish leagues at this time. And that the Euros coming in to the draft have been playing against men. He feels college players might be more athletic, but the Euros are much stronger physically as most are men.

Talking about Euros- "there have been comparisons with other players who come through the draft... that people don't have the time/patience to wait for and Guys become 10 yr all stars... you don't want to walk away from that.

He said the knicks are looking for "Mature kids who have a reasonable understanding of their skills."

He's looking at Personalities, how they fit together as teammates.

He wants to Get a sense of family structure, education, comprehension, and understanding the concepts (of the Triangle).

He says that a kid staying in school can have an advantage, and he is looking at the mental ability and how they can be trained physically and socially.

Read into this whatever you want. Its late, hope I didn't make any mistakes interpreting…might have, though.

Sounds like kaminsky to me. WCS doesn't have it upstairs or in his chest and a guy like Phil can see that through all the hype about a 7 foot pterodactyl on defense.

He's going to shock the world. Frank the tank at 4 (if he can't trade down that it is..and he 's letting everybody know the draft market is not as liquid as most fans think ( or hope) it is.

It's funny how we hear what we want to hear in these things. When he commented on Euros becoming 10 years all stars, I immediately thought of Prozingis. Coincidentally, this is my choice for the 4th pick, assuming that Towns, Okafor and Russell go in that order. A great pick now, a super talent in years to come.

Panos wrote:

WAKEUPKNICKS2015 wrote:briggs, the ultimate Knicks local drunk lmao. How are you so sure that a guy slotted to be picked outside the top 10 will be the Knicks pick at 4, along with another guy out the top 10 in Kaminsky. You change your mind more than a girl in forever 22 brah. Take a Xanax and try not to start more than 10 threads between now and Thursday about your "final" mock draft. We're going Mudiay or Porzingis...unless somehow okafor or Russell fall in our lap. Mudiay will be a star for the Knicks, as long as Jackson somehow has the balls to fire Fisher...who is afraid to stand up to melo. And we NEED a coach willing to stand up to melo, for our coach to gain respect.

Yo, Johnny-come-lately with 23 posts, why don't you settle down and show a little respect for a poster that's been here for over a decade and knows basketball.
If you don't like BRIGGS' threads, go elsewhere.

I've been on these forums a lot longer than you think. I've got nothing personal against anyone here, when I see an idiotic statement, I'll call you out on it. Throwing up made up percentages, which no draft expert legitimizes in any way, by a guy who basically comes up with a new draft idea every 30 minutes does not impress me. Like I've said all along, we're taking Mudiay or Porzingis. Really starting to look like we're taking Porzingis though...

nixluva wrote:The thing about WCS is that you can't look at him exactly how you look at other players because he is

1. A rare elite athlete that is without question based on verifiable facts and the eye test. We've never seen a 7'er with his combination of speed, quickness, agility and hops.
2. An elite defensive big which is rare in the draft and in the NBA especially. He will make everyone else better on D.
3. An efficient scorer and doesn't need the ball in order to have an impact. His +/- is based on everything else he does and not his scoring which tells you how impactful he actually is.
4. He does have offensive ability that needs further development but it's there. Other defensive bigs in the NBA are even more limited and yet they can be All Stars.

Phil can get scoring from other positions in the draft and Free Agency. This is a chance to radically transform the way this team defends. Every metric they have suggests that WCS is a great defensive player and you can see his ability clearly in being able to defend anywhere on the floor. His help defense is elite and will make everyone better on D. You can build an elite defense around him. That's why you take WCS.

I would think that health issues take priority in who we will draft. If a player with conditioning problems confesses to chest pains and the sickle cell trait, we thank him for his participation and wish him well. Further, if he has a pin in his leg or the possibility of a stress fracture, it would make sense to look in another direction.

CrushAlot wrote:

Sangfroid wrote:

nixluva wrote:The thing about WCS is that you can't look at him exactly how you look at other players because he is

1. A rare elite athlete that is without question based on verifiable facts and the eye test. We've never seen a 7'er with his combination of speed, quickness, agility and hops.
2. An elite defensive big which is rare in the draft and in the NBA especially. He will make everyone else better on D.
3. An efficient scorer and doesn't need the ball in order to have an impact. His +/- is based on everything else he does and not his scoring which tells you how impactful he actually is.
4. He does have offensive ability that needs further development but it's there. Other defensive bigs in the NBA are even more limited and yet they can be All Stars.

Phil can get scoring from other positions in the draft and Free Agency. This is a chance to radically transform the way this team defends. Every metric they have suggests that WCS is a great defensive player and you can see his ability clearly in being able to defend anywhere on the floor. His help defense is elite and will make everyone better on D. You can build an elite defense around him. That's why you take WCS.

I would think that health issues take priority in who we will draft. If a player with conditioning problems confesses to chest pains and the sickle cell trait, we thank him for his participation and wish him well. Further, if he has a pin in his leg or the possibility of a stress fracture, it would make sense to look in another direction.

I worry about the pin in his foot. He reportedly has gained 20lbs. The stress put on the foot by a guy weighing 250 lbs is tremendous. I think the pick is Porzingis. If the Knicks trade the pick I think they may go with Johnson. Nurkic and Johnson would spice things up on d.

All I think about with this trade is McDyess, another trade that mired the team in mediocrity for years. Didn't we give up two draft picks for him, only to give him away for peanuts. Keep the pick. Let's take a big swing for ourselves.

CrushAlot wrote:

Sangfroid wrote:

nixluva wrote:The thing about WCS is that you can't look at him exactly how you look at other players because he is

1. A rare elite athlete that is without question based on verifiable facts and the eye test. We've never seen a 7'er with his combination of speed, quickness, agility and hops.
2. An elite defensive big which is rare in the draft and in the NBA especially. He will make everyone else better on D.
3. An efficient scorer and doesn't need the ball in order to have an impact. His +/- is based on everything else he does and not his scoring which tells you how impactful he actually is.
4. He does have offensive ability that needs further development but it's there. Other defensive bigs in the NBA are even more limited and yet they can be All Stars.

Phil can get scoring from other positions in the draft and Free Agency. This is a chance to radically transform the way this team defends. Every metric they have suggests that WCS is a great defensive player and you can see his ability clearly in being able to defend anywhere on the floor. His help defense is elite and will make everyone better on D. You can build an elite defense around him. That's why you take WCS.

I would think that health issues take priority in who we will draft. If a player with conditioning problems confesses to chest pains and the sickle cell trait, we thank him for his participation and wish him well. Further, if he has a pin in his leg or the possibility of a stress fracture, it would make sense to look in another direction.

I worry about the pin in his foot. He reportedly has gained 20lbs. The stress put on the foot by a guy weighing 250 lbs is tremendous. I think the pick is Porzingis. If the Knicks trade the pick I think they may go with Johnson. Nurkic and Johnson would spice things up on d.

That interview with Katz was crazy telling. I don't know any player in the nba that would say the Knicks are the best run organization...especially a prospect before the draft. Only thing that makes sense to me is that there's already a promise there. And I LOVE that he wants to be a knick.