Bonn1997 wrote:

fitzfarm wrote:Am I the only one who would be disappointed if we drafted a sf in Winslow he seems like a player we just got rid of for his lack of offensive production in brick city shump ... If Russell is gone kristap has to be the pick a sharp shooting 4 that will evolve into a starting 5 in a few years possibly a super star ... And from film of kristap and the way the nba is played now with speed and finesse kristap fits the bill ... Winslow would be a lock down defender in 95 when you could still use the hand check... Now a days in this no hand check nba I don't think a lockdown defender exist in the nba ... This is a sharpshooter or get to the ft line type of league now... Russell or kristap

Shump is the downside and Jimmy Butler is the upside. Every option available to us has a bad downside. This is not unique to Winslow. We can at least say Winslow played well in his first year of college, though. Some of the guys people are talking about taking have never even played well outside of a few workouts.

The thing is Jimmy Butler was also a PF in college but he worked extremely hard on his conditioning and jump shot to play the 2 in the NBA. Will Winslow do the same? That is a bit rare. Winslow started the year at PF but Duke's SF got injured. Winslow then excelled by overpowering smaller 3's. Will he be quick enough to guard 2's in the NBA? Your SG needs to be able to shoot in this offense. Is he working hard on his jump shot? Will be surprise us? My guess is he will play SF but not on the Knicks unless we trade down and trade Melo. We better not see Melo at the floor. His career will be cut even shorter then

gunsnewing wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

fitzfarm wrote:Am I the only one who would be disappointed if we drafted a sf in Winslow he seems like a player we just got rid of for his lack of offensive production in brick city shump ... If Russell is gone kristap has to be the pick a sharp shooting 4 that will evolve into a starting 5 in a few years possibly a super star ... And from film of kristap and the way the nba is played now with speed and finesse kristap fits the bill ... Winslow would be a lock down defender in 95 when you could still use the hand check... Now a days in this no hand check nba I don't think a lockdown defender exist in the nba ... This is a sharpshooter or get to the ft line type of league now... Russell or kristap

Shump is the downside and Jimmy Butler is the upside. Every option available to us has a bad downside. This is not unique to Winslow. We can at least say Winslow played well in his first year of college, though. Some of the guys people are talking about taking have never even played well outside of a few workouts.

The thing is Jimmy Butler was also a PF in college but he worked extremely hard on his conditioning and jump shot to play the 2 in the NBA. Will Winslow do the same? That is a bit rare. Winslow started the year at PF but Duke's SF got injured. Winslow then excelled by overpowering smaller 3's. Will he be quick enough to guard 2's in the NBA? Your SG needs to be able to shoot in this offense. Is he working hard on his jump shot? Will be surprise us? My guess is he will play SF but not on the Knicks unless we trade down and trade Melo. We better not see Melo at the floor. His career will be cut even shorter then

Winslow is Shumpert's size..

martin wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:where do i sign up? that team will get after the opposition defensively and it give the proper floor spacing offensively to allow melo to thrive. i cant see winslow falling lower sacramento at 6, so we'd have to do some finagling, but like you said, if we take on a bad contract, it's definitely possible. i'd even throw monroe in on that team. i dont want to pay him the money, but pairing him with stein would work pretty well. monroe, might very well be the lamar odom-esque pf we're looking for in the triangle.

I can't get over Monroe and his slowness on the defensive end of things. He's an upgrade for what the Knicks have, but I don't ever see him as being on a team that has the potential to go all the way.

Agreed. I'd rather make Melo the post player/go to player in the triangle.