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6/23/2015  10:17 PM
holfresh wrote:
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CrushAlot wrote:A kings blog calling for a buyout of Karl's contact.
http://aroyalpain.com/2015/06/23/demarcus-cousins-dethroned-how-george-karl-has-come-perilously-close-to-destroying-the-sacramento-kings/

I hope nothing happens until Rondo parachutes in..We are always the picture of dysfunction, would be nice to look in from a distance for a change..

I don't know. A coach trying to recruit another players teammates to push for him to be traded should be canned in my opinion.

It's smelling fishy to me..I can't see Karl just joining the Kings trying to take ok the owner and GM on this..I think it's a case of good cop/bad cop to extract as much as they can to trade Cousins..There is no way in hell the Kings trade Cousins to their rivals, the Lakers..Its like the Knicks trading Ewing to the Heat or Boston..


Why would the bad cop be the coach though? He has to have the players trust and respect.
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6/23/2015  10:30 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
holfresh wrote:
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holfresh wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:A kings blog calling for a buyout of Karl's contact.
http://aroyalpain.com/2015/06/23/demarcus-cousins-dethroned-how-george-karl-has-come-perilously-close-to-destroying-the-sacramento-kings/

I hope nothing happens until Rondo parachutes in..We are always the picture of dysfunction, would be nice to look in from a distance for a change..

I don't know. A coach trying to recruit another players teammates to push for him to be traded should be canned in my opinion.

It's smelling fishy to me..I can't see Karl just joining the Kings trying to take ok the owner and GM on this..I think it's a case of good cop/bad cop to extract as much as they can to trade Cousins..There is no way in hell the Kings trade Cousins to their rivals, the Lakers..Its like the Knicks trading Ewing to the Heat or Boston..


Why would the bad cop be the coach though? He has to have the players trust and respect.

I just can't see Karl going totally rogue when he just joined the organization..If Cousins gets traded, it's a rebuild..
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6/24/2015  12:22 AM
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franco12 wrote:Am I the only one who thinks if the lakers are offering pick 2 for Cousins, the kings should take it without thinking too hard?

Cousins just seems like a malcontent prima donna.

Give me Okafor or Russel and a reset on my cap and I think I'd be happy!


Agreed besides the attitude issues, I'm not even sure Cousins has that big an impact on the W-L column. (The advanced stats are all over the place for him.) I'd rather have Okafor for a quarter the price.

This is not about Cousins it's about Karl. Also, I thought the Kings looked good last year and won games when he was playing.

Would you take Cousins for the #4 pick? Rookie contracts are great in all but Derrick Williams, Thomas Robinson, and Anthony bennents are always there.

Cousins is actually on a great contract as the cap explodes


It's a tough call but I'd rather have Winslow and Monroe.

Melo and Cousins equals contenders..

So Cousins would add 40 wins?

So Can a team of Melo and Cousins win 57 games in the East..Yes...


Well we're very far off in our assessments. I think this team slightly underachieved last year and if you put the same roster out there, it would win about 23. But if you have a healthy Melo - I'd kick it up to 31. Add Cousins and I'll say 38.

Well, I think the point is that it will not be the same roster. With Cousins you have around 18m plus the room exception left to add pieces this summer. They could try to build core around them with that money or add another max piece then look to summer 16 to add the others.


I think it's more like 12 mil after Cousins

The kicks have about 28m in cap space right now to spend and that is with the #4 draft pick cap hold. That money is freed up in the "trade for Cousins" so it is around $32m-14.7m
= around 17.3m. The knicks are basically just sliding Cousins into where people think Monroe would go except he cost a $1m less and they would gain $4m+ because of the draft hold being free.

I think I would go big and try to gamble on Tobias Harris which would leave 1.7 less if he takes the full max maybe less if he takes a haircut. Why Tobias, because I want to gamble on youth. The knicks would potentially have a 22 y/o and a 24y/o. It's not the same as adding a draft pick and Monroe but I could leave with that even though the kNicks are tying so much money in their front court again. However, its a different cap going forward.

Also, another dream would be to trade Calderon and Hardaway to throw that $7.5m(after open roster holds) at Cory Joseph(23 y/o). This is the kind of pipe dream that makes Mreinman cry.
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6/24/2015  10:33 AM
Report: Kings' DeMarcus Cousins asked for a trade a month ago

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/25222636/report-kings-demarcus-cousins-asked-for-a-trade-a-month-ago
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6/24/2015  10:36 AM
holfresh wrote:Report: Kings' DeMarcus Cousins asked for a trade a month ago

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/25222636/report-kings-demarcus-cousins-asked-for-a-trade-a-month-ago

So who does the Kings want? I believe they want the same thing as us, a big. Question is which one?
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Lots of options! And at the 6th pick, at least 2 or 3 of them will be available.

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6/24/2015  10:44 AM
blkexec wrote:
holfresh wrote:Report: Kings' DeMarcus Cousins asked for a trade a month ago

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/25222636/report-kings-demarcus-cousins-asked-for-a-trade-a-month-ago

So who does the Kings want? I believe they want the same thing as us, a big. Question is which one?
Zinger, WCS, Kaminsky, Turner
Lots of options! And at the 6th pick, at least 2 or 3 of them will be available.

I think if they trade Cousins then it's a full rebuild, they can go in any direction...They just need to trade Gay as well...
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6/24/2015  12:01 PM
For me this explains why the Lakers worked out Mudiay again,the option can be either with us involving melo randale and pick swap, or Kings with cousins randale and pick swap. Don't see it with Magic, and Mudiay will not be thre lower...don't think they want Mudiay with #2
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6/24/2015  12:27 PM
In reality the Knicks do not have the assets of the Kings want an established player in return. What they do have is cap space and divisional location.. Instead of LA working with Orlando the Knicks would have to work with them while adding a future draft pick and taking back salary. I think the Love trade is a blueprint. I know people looked at bennent as a former #1 pick but he was just a contract to get the salaries to match.

My would probably have to take Thompson/Landry and Gay to make it appealing.
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