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Rosey
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6/15/2015  11:02 AM
My top 4 based on limited information access and not counting 3-minute workout videos:

1. Townes
2. Okafor
3. Russell
4. Mudiay (gut hunch)

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s3231
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6/15/2015  11:05 AM    LAST EDITED: 6/15/2015  11:06 AM
It's fascinating to see all of the different opinions out there.

For the most part, a lot of similar names in everyone's groupings but how those names are ranked is interesting

I've kind of held my tongue in regards to Okafor vs. Towns but the more video I watch, the more I become convinced that Ok4 is beginning to become underrated if that is even possible. He just has such an incredible offensive skillset for a 19 year old near 7 footer that we haven't seen in a long time. From a defensive standpoint, I think he is getting dinged for being asked by the Duke coaching staff to stay out of foul trouble and I think he has all of the physical tools to be a very good defender in the NBA.

Know I'm in the minority and I could very well be wrong by a mile, but I would take Okafor over Towns right now. I love the skillset Towns has and think he has the potential to be a great player in this league for sure(could very well see him becoming the best player in this class by a good margin).

It's just difficult for me to justify selecting him over someone I think is more polished right now and at the very same age. If Okafor was years older, I would understand the potential factor but I guess I don't see why Okafor can't get better as well.

I guess that's why I'm on a message board though and not Flip Saunders right now having to make that choice....it's a tough choice to me at least (do you take the guy that has physical tools more correlated to success in today's NBA or the player that is more polished right now at least offensively?).

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TPercy
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6/15/2015  11:27 AM
top ten:
1)Russell
2) Towns
3)Ok4
4)Stein
5)Winslow
5b) Grant
7)Hezonja
8)Porzigins
9)Booker
10)Mudiay
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WaltLongmire
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6/15/2015  2:58 PM
s3231 wrote:It's fascinating to see all of the different opinions out there.

For the most part, a lot of similar names in everyone's groupings but how those names are ranked is interesting

I've kind of held my tongue in regards to Okafor vs. Towns but the more video I watch, the more I become convinced that Ok4 is beginning to become underrated if that is even possible. He just has such an incredible offensive skillset for a 19 year old near 7 footer that we haven't seen in a long time. From a defensive standpoint, I think he is getting dinged for being asked by the Duke coaching staff to stay out of foul trouble and I think he has all of the physical tools to be a very good defender in the NBA.

Know I'm in the minority and I could very well be wrong by a mile, but I would take Okafor over Towns right now. I love the skillset Towns has and think he has the potential to be a great player in this league for sure(could very well see him becoming the best player in this class by a good margin).

It's just difficult for me to justify selecting him over someone I think is more polished right now and at the very same age. If Okafor was years older, I would understand the potential factor but I guess I don't see why Okafor can't get better as well.

I guess that's why I'm on a message board though and not Flip Saunders right now having to make that choice....it's a tough choice to me at least (do you take the guy that has physical tools more correlated to success in today's NBA or the player that is more polished right now at least offensively?).


Agree with you about OK4 becoming underrated. He has a compelling story behind him, and he's loved the game for a long time, from what I've been reading. Everyone seems to forget how good his short game is.

Also believe that he, like Porzingis, must transform his body, but in the exact opposite way.

Anybody ever see a body fat test result for him, expecially recently?

When I look at his body, I see a lot of excess fat at this point, and that could be an issue down the line. Needs to give Porzingis about 15 lbs from his body, and also work out a bit, but could keeping his weight down be a problem for him?

Knicks only have to look at Sweetney and Eddie Curry to see how weight can hurt a game.

OK4 has a much more mature interior game than Towns, but Towns looks like he has been transforming his body, and is the better athlete at this point, although guys who think he will be a 4 are fooling themselves. Does not seem to me that OK4 did as much to lose the weight that I believe is hurting him.

Would really like to find out about that body fat reading.

I would be happy to pick him at 4, though...and who would have thought that was possible a few weeks ago?

Supposedly a big Laker fan, though, and if LA wants a true center, he would be the guy. He'd have to get in better shape to keep up with GS, but can you what he would be doing to GS in the post on the offensive end? Love Mosgov, but his post game is limited. Love Porzingis, but his post game is developing.

He's a good passer, and from the way Phil used Amundson last year, you could see how OK4 would thrive in the Triangle.

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6/15/2015  6:05 PM
WaltLongmire wrote:
s3231 wrote:It's fascinating to see all of the different opinions out there.

For the most part, a lot of similar names in everyone's groupings but how those names are ranked is interesting

I've kind of held my tongue in regards to Okafor vs. Towns but the more video I watch, the more I become convinced that Ok4 is beginning to become underrated if that is even possible. He just has such an incredible offensive skillset for a 19 year old near 7 footer that we haven't seen in a long time. From a defensive standpoint, I think he is getting dinged for being asked by the Duke coaching staff to stay out of foul trouble and I think he has all of the physical tools to be a very good defender in the NBA.

Know I'm in the minority and I could very well be wrong by a mile, but I would take Okafor over Towns right now. I love the skillset Towns has and think he has the potential to be a great player in this league for sure(could very well see him becoming the best player in this class by a good margin).

It's just difficult for me to justify selecting him over someone I think is more polished right now and at the very same age. If Okafor was years older, I would understand the potential factor but I guess I don't see why Okafor can't get better as well.

I guess that's why I'm on a message board though and not Flip Saunders right now having to make that choice....it's a tough choice to me at least (do you take the guy that has physical tools more correlated to success in today's NBA or the player that is more polished right now at least offensively?).


Agree with you about OK4 becoming underrated. He has a compelling story behind him, and he's loved the game for a long time, from what I've been reading. Everyone seems to forget how good his short game is.

Also believe that he, like Porzingis, must transform his body, but in the exact opposite way.

Anybody ever see a body fat test result for him, expecially recently?

When I look at his body, I see a lot of excess fat at this point, and that could be an issue down the line. Needs to give Porzingis about 15 lbs from his body, and also work out a bit, but could keeping his weight down be a problem for him?

Knicks only have to look at Sweetney and Eddie Curry to see how weight can hurt a game.

OK4 has a much more mature interior game than Towns, but Towns looks like he has been transforming his body, and is the better athlete at this point, although guys who think he will be a 4 are fooling themselves. Does not seem to me that OK4 did as much to lose the weight that I believe is hurting him.

Would really like to find out about that body fat reading.

I would be happy to pick him at 4, though...and who would have thought that was possible a few weeks ago?

Supposedly a big Laker fan, though, and if LA wants a true center, he would be the guy. He'd have to get in better shape to keep up with GS, but can you what he would be doing to GS in the post on the offensive end? Love Mosgov, but his post game is limited. Love Porzingis, but his post game is developing.

He's a good passer, and from the way Phil used Amundson last year, you could see how OK4 would thrive in the Triangle.

Agree 100%. God, if Okafor fell somehow to #4, would be absolutely thrilled....unfortunately, I think Kupchack and Hinkie are too smart to let that happen (even if they didn't want him, feel like they would trade pick to someone who did).

"This is a very cautious situation that we're in. You have to be conservative in terms of using your assets and using them wisely. We're building for the future." - Zeke (I guess not protecting a first round pick is being conservative)
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6/15/2015  6:11 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/15/2015  6:12 PM
blkexec wrote:Towns
OK4
Russell
Mudiay

I would like to make a change.

Towns
OK4
Russell
Porzingis

5th spot is tough.....I think it should be based on need. But who cares, I think this draft has a legit top 4 and Porzingis is in that 4th spot. Agility, Catch and Shoot, Shoot of the dribble, Lateral Quickness.

For a big man, he has agility like Stein....But a better offensive skill set than Kaminsky. If you could combine them together, you get Porzingis. In 2 years, people are going to say how this guy didn't go #1 overall.....He has that type of potential. At 4, it's a no brainer!

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6/15/2015  6:22 PM
EwingsGlass wrote:Towns
Hezonja
Mudiay
Okafor
Fuzaro

Towns
Hezonja
Mudiay
Okafor
Fuzaro
Russell

Fuzaro is no longer in this draft.

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NYKBocker
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6/16/2015  7:10 AM
Towns
Okafor
Porzingis
Russell
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6/16/2015  10:45 AM
Towns
Russell
Okafor
Porzingis
Give me your final top 4

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