knicks1248 wrote:

nixluva wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:why are we so interested in the guy shooting jumpers, i mean it's nice to have that in his game, but the last thing we want is not another 7 footer living on the perimeter..You don't impact the game shooting long jumpers

Well that's not all we expect him to do, but when he doesn't have the ball in his hands and teams focus on stopping our other scorers it helps if he can be an effective scorer outside of just dunks. He'll get some post touches too. It's all about WCS having a more well rounded offensive game, which makes him more dangerous in the Triangle. If he can hit a jumper defenders will have to get closer and then he can drive around them easier.

But the big men that have won championpships in phils triangle never lived on the perimeter, Shaq couldn't shoot beyond 6 ft, gasol was a solid shooter, but he lived in the paint like shaq, and longly was ok, but he to was more like 10 feet from the basket not 18 .

I also think this is a guy who's going to need a very good PG, or guards that penetrate at will and are playmakers like Jordan and kobe. In other words if you draft a player like WCS, you should already have his supporting cast in place, he's not good enough to build around

Willie is disputing his 1-4 performance in the final four. He is saying he was so fast that he actually went 11-14 with 5 3's and Kentucky won by 26 no one noticed.

BRIGGS wrote:Report--Willie Stein's vertical has elevated another 4 inches today and hes put on another 17 pounds of muscle. At last calculations WCS is now 282 pounds with a 46 inch vertical. We may have to put the basket up to 11 feet to make it fair for the other players.

Willie is disputing his 1-4 performance in the final four. He is saying he was so fast that he actually went 11-14 with 5 3's and Kentucky won by 26 no one noticed.

Briggs, I'm glad you've finally come around.

BRIGGS wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

Sigh. Kept rooting for him to miss his jumpers in that video.

Exactly right--why would I want my 6-11 265 pound C taking anything more than a mid range j or post up? They shouldve schooled him in the mid range instead of the 3 pt its a different trajectory. Keep him where he plays 14 feet and in.

blkexec wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

nixluva wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

mreinman wrote:

nixluva wrote:

mreinman wrote:

blkexec wrote:Briggs....i finally realized why you make so many threads.....you only read your damn threads. Youve done that to me before. But this iscrazy. Nix posted that video multiple times....lmao

he could give 2 shyts

Heck I thought it was something new at first.

Now I know why BRIGGS seems to be ignoring points we make. He may never have saw them. LOL.
What did he think we were talking about regarding WCS jumper?

:-)

and now he is giving himself a stein window

Hes going to be a 10-7-2 player--that what i said--I would NOT draft him 4 or 6etc.. He is below Towns Okafor Russell both Euros Winslow Kaminsky so youre talking 8 max. And then personally there are other scenarios where if I could trade down and get Mickey and Fuzaro for pick if I traded down to 7 or 8 or 9 and Kaminsky was gone etc... Id prefer it by a mile to Stein. Stein should be a decent player--but I have made it clear he is not my first or tenth choice.

You still keep going on about his numbers but his real value is in how he impacts your teams defense. He's the kind of big you can build your defense around. That's his value.

WCS is up around 4-6 in mocks for a reason. Analysts feels teams right behind us are interested in WCS for his defense.

Yep, people keep saying trade down to take him, but I don't know if you can risk it- Magic and Kings have been linked to him AND you have to worry about the Celtics and Pacers trading up to get him (they could do a deal with the Magic, Kings, Nuggets or Pistons).

Do you trade down if you have ok4 sitting at 4?

My answer is yes.....and that was before his shooting video. That was during the hype of him being number 1. I think anybody 5 or below would give us the world for a chance at picking him that low. See who is willing to give up the farm.....There's another Dolan out there just waiting. But thats been my position from day 1 (before I knew we were drafting 4th).....Just because he drops doesn't change that for me. I rather have a combination of WCS and Kaminsky (just as an example) over ok4! Grant and Kaminsky....Payne and WCS.....Winslow and WCS......Winslow and Kaminsky.....We can play this game all day.....

Towns is the only exception.... I think he has HOF potential.

WaltLongmire wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Report--Willie Stein's vertical has elevated another 4 inches today and hes put on another 17 pounds of muscle. At last calculations WCS is now 282 pounds with a 46 inch vertical. We may have to put the basket up to 11 feet to make it fair for the other players.

Willie is disputing his 1-4 performance in the final four. He is saying he was so fast that he actually went 11-14 with 5 3's and Kentucky won by 26 no one noticed.

Willie Cauley Stein can play D at all five positions on the court; AT THE SAME TIME

Willie Cauley Stein was such a great BB player that his college coach would sometimes beg him to play poorly in order to not damage the self-esteem of their opponents.

Willie Cauley Stein is such a dominating player that Lebron James has been quoted saying he will not exercise his player option until he knows which conference Willie Cauley Stein will be playing in.

BRIGGS wrote:Id trade Okafor for the combination of Kaminsky and WCS--no problem there. If Phil can do that Ill buy 2 Willie Stein jerseys for my kids as a peace offering.

Wait a minute....Did I just find a post writen by Briggs that I agree with.

I wonder where you came up with that trade idea? Brillant......

Kaminsky and WCS are meant for each other.....

They would run circles around OK4.....

Unfortunately, we will have to sit Kaminsky in crunch time, during PnR small ball.....

blkexec wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Id trade Okafor for the combination of Kaminsky and WCS--no problem there. If Phil can do that Ill buy 2 Willie Stein jerseys for my kids as a peace offering.

Wait a minute....Did I just find a post writen by Briggs that I agree with.

I wonder where you came up with that trade idea? Brillant......

Kaminsky and WCS are meant for each other.....

They would run circles around OK4.....

Unfortunately, we will have to sit Kaminsky in crunch time, during PnR small ball.....

I would do this trade. Hard to swing, I imagine. But I would do it.

crzymdups wrote:

blkexec wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Id trade Okafor for the combination of Kaminsky and WCS--no problem there. If Phil can do that Ill buy 2 Willie Stein jerseys for my kids as a peace offering.

Wait a minute....Did I just find a post writen by Briggs that I agree with.

I wonder where you came up with that trade idea? Brillant......

Kaminsky and WCS are meant for each other.....

They would run circles around OK4.....

Unfortunately, we will have to sit Kaminsky in crunch time, during PnR small ball.....

I would do this trade. Hard to swing, I imagine. But I would do it.

If OK4 slides to 4th.....It should be an easy trade with somebody.....Even if a 3 team trade is needed. But I don't trust Phil or his staff to create something this complicated. Same thing if Russell falls. But I doubt we trade him.