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yellowboy90
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6/10/2015  12:31 AM
Also, I'd take crazy lance while his value is low if it meant a 2016 1st and 2015 2nd plus filler.
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6/10/2015  1:34 AM
yellowboy90 wrote:Also, I'd take crazy lance while his value is low if it meant a 2016 1st and 2015 2nd plus filler.

If that was offered I would support that trade too. I doubt it is offered though unless it was a conditional top 15 and/or we sent them hardaway.

I would hope the knicks tried to make Lance a 6th man too. He's just like JR when he is a better player when playing against other teams benches.

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6/10/2015  2:38 AM    LAST EDITED: 6/10/2015  2:40 AM
martin wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
martin wrote:
blkexec wrote:
holfresh wrote:WCS is Robin Lopez 2.0..

Lopez
Melo
Winslow
Carroll
Gallo

I've been thinking about the same but with different players:

WCS
Melo
Carrol
Middleton
Gallo

Overpay for Carrol/Middleton and hope for the best.

OR

WCS
Milsap
Melo
Carrol
Gallo

OR

Alexis Ajinca
WCS
Melo
Carrol
Gallo

Hibbert/Noah (1yr rentals)
Melo
Carroll
Winslow
Gallo

Noah available?



I think after maxing out Butler, Chicago will look to clear some salary from their front court (either taj or Noah). Noah had a bad year this season, and is starting to breakdown, so I think they will probably try to move him. I'd take him or Hibbert (if he opts in) as a stop gap for a year.
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6/10/2015  2:48 AM
in the latest Marc Berman article he says Winslow was able to pick up the triangle quickly in workouts.
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6/10/2015  7:42 AM
wargames wrote:in the latest Marc Berman article he says Winslow was able to pick up the triangle quickly in workouts.

Not surprised if true. High IQ player.

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6/10/2015  8:20 AM
TPercy wrote:
wargames wrote:in the latest Marc Berman article he says Winslow was able to pick up the triangle quickly in workouts.

Not surprised if true. High IQ player.

Yeah they seem to compare him to Butler which is great by me
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6/10/2015  9:56 AM
StarksEwing1 wrote:
TPercy wrote:
wargames wrote:in the latest Marc Berman article he says Winslow was able to pick up the triangle quickly in workouts.

Not surprised if true. High IQ player.

Yeah they seem to compare him to Butler which is great by me

Winslow is the safe pick in a lot of ways. I think he'll be a good player, but definitely the safest option.

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6/10/2015  10:03 AM
crzymdups wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
TPercy wrote:
wargames wrote:in the latest Marc Berman article he says Winslow was able to pick up the triangle quickly in workouts.

Not surprised if true. High IQ player.

Yeah they seem to compare him to Butler which is great by me

Winslow is the safe pick in a lot of ways. I think he'll be a good player, but definitely the safest option.


Yeah he's definitely the safe pick. I think as a rookie he will be similar to what Fields brought as a rookie offensively (10 pts, 5-6 rebs, 38% 3pt) but with more elite defense. And obviously the upside is there to develop into much more than that.
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6/10/2015  12:54 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:Also, I'd take crazy lance while his value is low if it meant a 2016 1st and 2015 2nd plus filler.

If you draft Winslow, it kind of makes Lance redundant
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6/10/2015  3:19 PM
would mudiay even be effective in triangle due to his poor shooting
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6/10/2015  3:47 PM
jbeachboy wrote:would mudiay even be effective in triangle due to his poor shooting

The triangle, like any other offense, still requires someone who can break down defense and get to the basket. Also, Mudiay would be an effective cutter in this offense. I think the question is less about does he effectively fit the offense and more about will this offense be able to maximize his crazy potential.
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6/10/2015  3:58 PM
Knixkik wrote:
jbeachboy wrote:would mudiay even be effective in triangle due to his poor shooting

The triangle, like any other offense, still requires someone who can break down defense and get to the basket. Also, Mudiay would be an effective cutter in this offense. I think the question is less about does he effectively fit the offense and more about will this offense be able to maximize his crazy potential.

I don't think the triangle is about breaking down the defense..Its about cutting, ball movement and presenting options..
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6/10/2015  4:40 PM
holfresh wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
jbeachboy wrote:would mudiay even be effective in triangle due to his poor shooting

The triangle, like any other offense, still requires someone who can break down defense and get to the basket. Also, Mudiay would be an effective cutter in this offense. I think the question is less about does he effectively fit the offense and more about will this offense be able to maximize his crazy potential.

I don't think the triangle is about breaking down the defense..Its about cutting, ball movement and presenting options..


Yes, totally agree, in the Triangle once you get the ball you either shoot, pass or immediately drive to the hoop if there is no defender in front of you. Breaking down the D Allan Iverson-style in not a part of the Triangle at all.
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6/10/2015  4:42 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/10/2015  4:43 PM
ramtour420 wrote:
holfresh wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
jbeachboy wrote:would mudiay even be effective in triangle due to his poor shooting

The triangle, like any other offense, still requires someone who can break down defense and get to the basket. Also, Mudiay would be an effective cutter in this offense. I think the question is less about does he effectively fit the offense and more about will this offense be able to maximize his crazy potential.

I don't think the triangle is about breaking down the defense..Its about cutting, ball movement and presenting options..


Yes, totally agree, in the Triangle once you get the ball you either shoot, pass or immediately drive to the hoop if there is no defender in front of you. Breaking down the D Allan Iverson-style in not a part of the Triangle at all.

Right but you still need dribble penetration. Phil stated one of his goals this summer was to get players who can break down a defense. He was quoted stating this.
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6/10/2015  5:03 PM
Ha ha, has anyone seen the Instagram clip of Winslow from the Denver workout- are these teams deliberately just releasing vids of these players clunking shot after shot?!
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6/10/2015  5:05 PM
Knixkik wrote:
ramtour420 wrote:
holfresh wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
jbeachboy wrote:would mudiay even be effective in triangle due to his poor shooting

The triangle, like any other offense, still requires someone who can break down defense and get to the basket. Also, Mudiay would be an effective cutter in this offense. I think the question is less about does he effectively fit the offense and more about will this offense be able to maximize his crazy potential.

I don't think the triangle is about breaking down the defense..Its about cutting, ball movement and presenting options..


Yes, totally agree, in the Triangle once you get the ball you either shoot, pass or immediately drive to the hoop if there is no defender in front of you. Breaking down the D Allan Iverson-style in not a part of the Triangle at all.

Right but you still need dribble penetration. Phil stated one of his goals this summer was to get players who can break down a defense. He was quoted stating this.

Well, he knows all there is to know about it, so I was wrong. Perhaps it's used on the weak side
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6/10/2015  5:19 PM
Knixkik wrote:
ramtour420 wrote:
holfresh wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
jbeachboy wrote:would mudiay even be effective in triangle due to his poor shooting

The triangle, like any other offense, still requires someone who can break down defense and get to the basket. Also, Mudiay would be an effective cutter in this offense. I think the question is less about does he effectively fit the offense and more about will this offense be able to maximize his crazy potential.

I don't think the triangle is about breaking down the defense..Its about cutting, ball movement and presenting options..


Yes, totally agree, in the Triangle once you get the ball you either shoot, pass or immediately drive to the hoop if there is no defender in front of you. Breaking down the D Allan Iverson-style in not a part of the Triangle at all.

Right but you still need dribble penetration. Phil stated one of his goals this summer was to get players who can break down a defense. He was quoted stating this.

Winslow is quick and strong, don't see why he can't be a great cutter and a penetrator in some instances.

They've also said he is an unselfish player.

Someone around here compared him to Manu Ginóbili, and I can actually see this.

I'm still worried about his ability to shoot off the dribble, and his foul shooting, which is always a red flag thing for me, especially when evaluating somebody who plays 1-3 on the court.

DExpress said he had a reputation coming out of HS that he was not a great shooter, though he put up 41% from the 3 this year.

Would love to see some videos of him shooting.

I think he's a winner and a fierce competitor, and expect that James would really like to have him on the Cavs.

He's on my short list at this point.

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6/10/2015  5:36 PM
did you guys see draft scouting videos on youtube about the players weaknesses? any thoughts on those on knicks possible picks?
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6/10/2015  6:14 PM
I think this refers to some positive comments about Winslow's workout with the Knicks. This is from Hahn on positive comments about Winslow, but not Mudiay. He's saying that the Knicks did not release anything.

Self-promotion by Winslow's crowd?


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6/10/2015  7:35 PM
It sounds like Charlotte and Orlando are very interested in drafting Winslow. A hornets blog has a poll asking fans whether the hornets should trade up to get Winslow.
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