I will laugh if the 76ers take him! You know there was that sudden story a month or two back saying the 76ers badly wanted him (and Hinkie has scouted him in person). They may go for the player with the biggest upside rather than best fundamentals- after all if you look at Embiid and Noels, they aren't your 'modern era' front court players, they were the picks with the greatest upside (and high risk). Lately all the talk has been 76ers going after Mudiay, but that could just be a smoke screen that was invented in case they got the 4th or lower pick.
If they need a PG, Mudiay is the guy. He's a pure PG that will get their bigs involved. But don't they already have a non shooting tall PG in MCW? Seems odd for them to draft Mudiay, unless they see him starting over MCW. Russel is not a typical PG.....He can shoot like Steph and pass like Steph, but I don't see Russell as a floor general like Mudiay will be. Some compare him to Jason Kidd and Billups....even Deron Williams. These are legit floor general PG's. If the sixers were smart, and they are looking for a PG, it's Mudiay. Russell is a SG who can pass like a PG. He's a triangle type of guard. Mudiay is a fast pace transition guard.
The bad thing for us is Russell has instinct chemistry with the sixers bigs because they actually played together or know each other.
If Winslow is physically similar to Mudiay in size, them Mudiay should be the pick, since he's a natural PG. The problem is Melo already said he prefers a vet PG, not a rookie. And whatever Melo says, he's echoing Phil. Plus Melo has chemistry with Winslow. Winslow might be the pick.
Trading MCW would make more sense if they had their heart set on Mudiay, otherwise they would have been better off keeping him and pairing him with Russell at SG- there is still hope Russell could fall to us
c'mon ... that was/is not the plan.
if you read anything about hinkie, you would see that he wants a shooter
Why did he draft MCW at all then?
mistake or as an asset.
yeah, as soon as I posted it I said everyone makes mistakes and maybr he has learned from his. Then again with MCW and Toney Wroten maybe he has a type and Mudiay is yhe best version of his type.
what dont you like about Mudiay?
that he is not a very good shooter. They are looking to emulate the houston model and russell fits that far more than mudiay (its really not even close)
so here is what phil is thinking ....
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I will laugh if the 76ers take him! You know there was that sudden story a month or two back saying the 76ers badly wanted him (and Hinkie has scouted him in person). They may go for the player with the biggest upside rather than best fundamentals- after all if you look at Embiid and Noels, they aren't your 'modern era' front court players, they were the picks with the greatest upside (and high risk). Lately all the talk has been 76ers going after Mudiay, but that could just be a smoke screen that was invented in case they got the 4th or lower pick.
If they need a PG, Mudiay is the guy. He's a pure PG that will get their bigs involved. But don't they already have a non shooting tall PG in MCW? Seems odd for them to draft Mudiay, unless they see him starting over MCW. Russel is not a typical PG.....He can shoot like Steph and pass like Steph, but I don't see Russell as a floor general like Mudiay will be. Some compare him to Jason Kidd and Billups....even Deron Williams. These are legit floor general PG's. If the sixers were smart, and they are looking for a PG, it's Mudiay. Russell is a SG who can pass like a PG. He's a triangle type of guard. Mudiay is a fast pace transition guard.
The bad thing for us is Russell has instinct chemistry with the sixers bigs because they actually played together or know each other.
If Winslow is physically similar to Mudiay in size, them Mudiay should be the pick, since he's a natural PG. The problem is Melo already said he prefers a vet PG, not a rookie. And whatever Melo says, he's echoing Phil. Plus Melo has chemistry with Winslow. Winslow might be the pick.
Trading MCW would make more sense if they had their heart set on Mudiay, otherwise they would have been better off keeping him and pairing him with Russell at SG- there is still hope Russell could fall to us
c'mon ... that was/is not the plan.
if you read anything about hinkie, you would see that he wants a shooter
Why did he draft MCW at all then?
mistake or as an asset.
yeah, as soon as I posted it I said everyone makes mistakes and maybr he has learned from his. Then again with MCW and Toney Wroten maybe he has a type and Mudiay is yhe best version of his type.
what dont you like about Mudiay?
that he is not a very good shooter. They are looking to emulate the houston model and russell fits that far more than mudiay (its really not even close)
Maybe he gambles AND gets a shooter by going for Hezonja
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hinkie says that you need many many picks because you will be wrong on most of them.
Tragically, this past decade the Knicks seem to have believed that you need to have as few picks as possible because you will be wrong on most of them.
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I will laugh if the 76ers take him! You know there was that sudden story a month or two back saying the 76ers badly wanted him (and Hinkie has scouted him in person). They may go for the player with the biggest upside rather than best fundamentals- after all if you look at Embiid and Noels, they aren't your 'modern era' front court players, they were the picks with the greatest upside (and high risk). Lately all the talk has been 76ers going after Mudiay, but that could just be a smoke screen that was invented in case they got the 4th or lower pick.
If they need a PG, Mudiay is the guy. He's a pure PG that will get their bigs involved. But don't they already have a non shooting tall PG in MCW? Seems odd for them to draft Mudiay, unless they see him starting over MCW. Russel is not a typical PG.....He can shoot like Steph and pass like Steph, but I don't see Russell as a floor general like Mudiay will be. Some compare him to Jason Kidd and Billups....even Deron Williams. These are legit floor general PG's. If the sixers were smart, and they are looking for a PG, it's Mudiay. Russell is a SG who can pass like a PG. He's a triangle type of guard. Mudiay is a fast pace transition guard.
The bad thing for us is Russell has instinct chemistry with the sixers bigs because they actually played together or know each other.
If Winslow is physically similar to Mudiay in size, them Mudiay should be the pick, since he's a natural PG. The problem is Melo already said he prefers a vet PG, not a rookie. And whatever Melo says, he's echoing Phil. Plus Melo has chemistry with Winslow. Winslow might be the pick.
Trading MCW would make more sense if they had their heart set on Mudiay, otherwise they would have been better off keeping him and pairing him with Russell at SG- there is still hope Russell could fall to us
c'mon ... that was/is not the plan.
if you read anything about hinkie, you would see that he wants a shooter
Why did he draft MCW at all then?
mistake or as an asset.
yeah, as soon as I posted it I said everyone makes mistakes and maybr he has learned from his. Then again with MCW and Toney Wroten maybe he has a type and Mudiay is yhe best version of his type.
what dont you like about Mudiay?
that he is not a very good shooter. They are looking to emulate the houston model and russell fits that far more than mudiay (its really not even close)
Mudiay isn't my first choice but I think we have to take him and pray he learns to shoot. He's a great passer and his body is NBA ready. "Mudiay and Pray" rhymes too
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I will laugh if the 76ers take him! You know there was that sudden story a month or two back saying the 76ers badly wanted him (and Hinkie has scouted him in person). They may go for the player with the biggest upside rather than best fundamentals- after all if you look at Embiid and Noels, they aren't your 'modern era' front court players, they were the picks with the greatest upside (and high risk). Lately all the talk has been 76ers going after Mudiay, but that could just be a smoke screen that was invented in case they got the 4th or lower pick.
If they need a PG, Mudiay is the guy. He's a pure PG that will get their bigs involved. But don't they already have a non shooting tall PG in MCW? Seems odd for them to draft Mudiay, unless they see him starting over MCW. Russel is not a typical PG.....He can shoot like Steph and pass like Steph, but I don't see Russell as a floor general like Mudiay will be. Some compare him to Jason Kidd and Billups....even Deron Williams. These are legit floor general PG's. If the sixers were smart, and they are looking for a PG, it's Mudiay. Russell is a SG who can pass like a PG. He's a triangle type of guard. Mudiay is a fast pace transition guard.
The bad thing for us is Russell has instinct chemistry with the sixers bigs because they actually played together or know each other.
If Winslow is physically similar to Mudiay in size, them Mudiay should be the pick, since he's a natural PG. The problem is Melo already said he prefers a vet PG, not a rookie. And whatever Melo says, he's echoing Phil. Plus Melo has chemistry with Winslow. Winslow might be the pick.
Trading MCW would make more sense if they had their heart set on Mudiay, otherwise they would have been better off keeping him and pairing him with Russell at SG- there is still hope Russell could fall to us
c'mon ... that was/is not the plan.
if you read anything about hinkie, you would see that he wants a shooter
Why did he draft MCW at all then?
mistake or as an asset.
MCW developed much faster than anyone anticipated. I think he cut down their tanking strategy by at least a year. trading MCW allowed Philly to cause a soft reset to their tanking process.
Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right.
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I will laugh if the 76ers take him! You know there was that sudden story a month or two back saying the 76ers badly wanted him (and Hinkie has scouted him in person). They may go for the player with the biggest upside rather than best fundamentals- after all if you look at Embiid and Noels, they aren't your 'modern era' front court players, they were the picks with the greatest upside (and high risk). Lately all the talk has been 76ers going after Mudiay, but that could just be a smoke screen that was invented in case they got the 4th or lower pick.
If they need a PG, Mudiay is the guy. He's a pure PG that will get their bigs involved. But don't they already have a non shooting tall PG in MCW? Seems odd for them to draft Mudiay, unless they see him starting over MCW. Russel is not a typical PG.....He can shoot like Steph and pass like Steph, but I don't see Russell as a floor general like Mudiay will be. Some compare him to Jason Kidd and Billups....even Deron Williams. These are legit floor general PG's. If the sixers were smart, and they are looking for a PG, it's Mudiay. Russell is a SG who can pass like a PG. He's a triangle type of guard. Mudiay is a fast pace transition guard.
The bad thing for us is Russell has instinct chemistry with the sixers bigs because they actually played together or know each other.
If Winslow is physically similar to Mudiay in size, them Mudiay should be the pick, since he's a natural PG. The problem is Melo already said he prefers a vet PG, not a rookie. And whatever Melo says, he's echoing Phil. Plus Melo has chemistry with Winslow. Winslow might be the pick.
Trading MCW would make more sense if they had their heart set on Mudiay, otherwise they would have been better off keeping him and pairing him with Russell at SG- there is still hope Russell could fall to us
c'mon ... that was/is not the plan.
if you read anything about hinkie, you would see that he wants a shooter
Why did he draft MCW at all then?
mistake or as an asset.
MCW developed much faster than anyone anticipated. I think he cut down their tanking strategy by at least a year. trading MCW allowed Philly to cause a soft reset to their tanking process.
nah ... they were tanking just fine this year with him.
he could not shoot and that does not work in the houston paradigm
so here is what phil is thinking ....
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I will laugh if the 76ers take him! You know there was that sudden story a month or two back saying the 76ers badly wanted him (and Hinkie has scouted him in person). They may go for the player with the biggest upside rather than best fundamentals- after all if you look at Embiid and Noels, they aren't your 'modern era' front court players, they were the picks with the greatest upside (and high risk). Lately all the talk has been 76ers going after Mudiay, but that could just be a smoke screen that was invented in case they got the 4th or lower pick.
If they need a PG, Mudiay is the guy. He's a pure PG that will get their bigs involved. But don't they already have a non shooting tall PG in MCW? Seems odd for them to draft Mudiay, unless they see him starting over MCW. Russel is not a typical PG.....He can shoot like Steph and pass like Steph, but I don't see Russell as a floor general like Mudiay will be. Some compare him to Jason Kidd and Billups....even Deron Williams. These are legit floor general PG's. If the sixers were smart, and they are looking for a PG, it's Mudiay. Russell is a SG who can pass like a PG. He's a triangle type of guard. Mudiay is a fast pace transition guard.
The bad thing for us is Russell has instinct chemistry with the sixers bigs because they actually played together or know each other.
If Winslow is physically similar to Mudiay in size, them Mudiay should be the pick, since he's a natural PG. The problem is Melo already said he prefers a vet PG, not a rookie. And whatever Melo says, he's echoing Phil. Plus Melo has chemistry with Winslow. Winslow might be the pick.
Trading MCW would make more sense if they had their heart set on Mudiay, otherwise they would have been better off keeping him and pairing him with Russell at SG- there is still hope Russell could fall to us
c'mon ... that was/is not the plan.
if you read anything about hinkie, you would see that he wants a shooter
Why did he draft MCW at all then?
mistake or as an asset.
yeah, as soon as I posted it I said everyone makes mistakes and maybr he has learned from his. Then again with MCW and Toney Wroten maybe he has a type and Mudiay is yhe best version of his type.
what dont you like about Mudiay?
that he is not a very good shooter. They are looking to emulate the houston model and russell fits that far more than mudiay (its really not even close)
if Houston requires shooters why bring in Smith and Brewer. Also, with such a small sample how do anyone Know if Mudiay is very good or not?
what if Mudiay is only an avg distance shooter but gets to the line at will? I know the comparisons of . Wall, Westbrook, and Evans are there but most scout also say he is a true lead guard, that separates him from a shoot 1st guy like Westbrook. Maybe he is a bigger Jeff Teague. I'm reaching man.
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I will laugh if the 76ers take him! You know there was that sudden story a month or two back saying the 76ers badly wanted him (and Hinkie has scouted him in person). They may go for the player with the biggest upside rather than best fundamentals- after all if you look at Embiid and Noels, they aren't your 'modern era' front court players, they were the picks with the greatest upside (and high risk). Lately all the talk has been 76ers going after Mudiay, but that could just be a smoke screen that was invented in case they got the 4th or lower pick.
If they need a PG, Mudiay is the guy. He's a pure PG that will get their bigs involved. But don't they already have a non shooting tall PG in MCW? Seems odd for them to draft Mudiay, unless they see him starting over MCW. Russel is not a typical PG.....He can shoot like Steph and pass like Steph, but I don't see Russell as a floor general like Mudiay will be. Some compare him to Jason Kidd and Billups....even Deron Williams. These are legit floor general PG's. If the sixers were smart, and they are looking for a PG, it's Mudiay. Russell is a SG who can pass like a PG. He's a triangle type of guard. Mudiay is a fast pace transition guard.
The bad thing for us is Russell has instinct chemistry with the sixers bigs because they actually played together or know each other.
If Winslow is physically similar to Mudiay in size, them Mudiay should be the pick, since he's a natural PG. The problem is Melo already said he prefers a vet PG, not a rookie. And whatever Melo says, he's echoing Phil. Plus Melo has chemistry with Winslow. Winslow might be the pick.
Trading MCW would make more sense if they had their heart set on Mudiay, otherwise they would have been better off keeping him and pairing him with Russell at SG- there is still hope Russell could fall to us
c'mon ... that was/is not the plan.
if you read anything about hinkie, you would see that he wants a shooter
Why did he draft MCW at all then?
mistake or as an asset.
yeah, as soon as I posted it I said everyone makes mistakes and maybr he has learned from his. Then again with MCW and Toney Wroten maybe he has a type and Mudiay is yhe best version of his type.
what dont you like about Mudiay?
that he is not a very good shooter. They are looking to emulate the houston model and russell fits that far more than mudiay (its really not even close)
if Houston requires shooters why bring in Smith and Brewer. Also, with such a small sample how do anyone Know if Mudiay is very good or not?
what if Mudiay is only an avg distance shooter but gets to the line at will? I know the comparisons of . Wall, Westbrook, and Evans are there but most scout also say he is a true lead guard, that separates him from a shoot 1st guy like Westbrook. Maybe he is a bigger Jeff Teague. I'm reaching man.
Houston took those guys out of desperation and lack of cash.
if mudiay ends up here, I hope that he is a star. I am just telling you the fears of taking such a guy. The whole China thing is murky at best.
Hinkie was the only GM who actually flew to china to scout him so I am REALLY curious to see what he is going to do. My money is against him taking mudiay but hinkie is not an old school bonehead who gives away anything.
so here is what phil is thinking ....
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