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JVG calls out phil Jackson
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OldFan
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5/19/2015  7:06 PM
mreinman wrote:
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SupremeCommander wrote:as much as I love JVG, every time he ran his mouth when he coach he Phil owned him. straight up owned him. JVG probably can't get over that

Chicago had a better team. I think Phil was a great coach but if JVG coaches Chicago and Phil coaches the Knicks I'm not convinced the Knicks win.

why would the knicks win? they were by far the inferior team.

I agree. That was my point. Jackson didn't own JVG he just coached a better team.

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5/19/2015  7:06 PM
nuxluva, are you balanced when it comes to phil?
so here is what phil is thinking ....
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5/19/2015  7:11 PM    LAST EDITED: 5/19/2015  7:11 PM
mreinman wrote:nuxluva, are you balanced when it comes to phil?

Yes. I've said that the teams failure was his fault. He's still got a lot of work to do in order to prove what kind of GM he actual is. My only point has been that Phil's actually plan for the franchise is sound and he's coming into this summer with his best shot to actually start to put the pieces in place that he wants and needs. It's that simple. I can tell you that I have a much clearer picture of what Phil is trying to do than a guy like Hinkie. That doesn't mean Hinkie won't be successful. I just don't think it's all that clear what he's actually building. With Phil I can tell you exactly the kind of players he's going to be looking for and why. Let's hope for the best tonight and take it from there.

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5/19/2015  7:47 PM
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nixluva wrote:It's not so much about excuses, but trying to also be reasonable in judging the whole situation. If you're going to simply look at things black and white, up and down and there's no sense of perspective and circumstances then it's easy to just bash Phil and Fish and convince yourself that they aren't any good. If Jerry Krause had done that with Phil when he first tried to bring him in, he would've missed out on a great coach. Jerry could see the Diamond in the rough and was willing to give him a chance. Some people lack the ability to project and see deeper than the surface.
i dont think thats entirely fair. Most fans like phil including myself BUT he still has a lot to prove as a GM. Hopefully he does a great job, we will see

You may be balanced in your take on Phil but not everyone is and that's who i'm talking about. I'm not talking about going on blind faith. I'm basing my patience on his stated principles, plans and goals for the team. Phil isn't just winging it. He actually has very well laid out roles he's looking to fill. Sometimes players handle their role and sometimes they don't but the underlying principle behind why Phil is looking to build the team a certain way is sound.

So when I read people bashing him based on just this 1st year, IMO they aren't paying enough attention to what he's actually trying to achieve. I can see it clearly from what he's expressed he's looking to do. The hard part is actually being able to find the right players to get the job done. Hopefully we get some help with the Lottery and can take it from there. This summer and next will be the best opportunities for Phil to build this team. Last summer was not his best shot to do that.

its good to be very optimistic but its also ok not to pat phil on the back quite yet. Personally i have confidence in phil BUT he still needs to go out and do it before getting any praise
JVG calls out phil Jackson

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